**** that noise! a coupla months ago i "tagged" a lexus with my size 9 boot (it was winter)!! dude brushed me when he had plenty of room to pass. i chased his a$$ down and told him to share the road. old fat dude rolled his window down and told me to "shut the **** up". that's when i put some footprints on his rear quarter panel. that's how i roll. . .:)

Sweet...especially since he's a fat-ass in a Lexus. :D

Old and fat too and not likely to return the favor. Let us know when some tough guy tries his barbarian enforcer routine in the 'hood against the usual suspects.

...And may you continue to roll (while upright). :D

"thats how i roll" roflmao..

Are you really a Hells angel? or are you really just eminem posing as one?

I stand by my last post, and the posts of some others on here when I say Road rage isnt something to be proud of, its bloody stupid. Roll on the day someone decides enough is enough and mows you down after you do some damage to his vehicle. "I indicated I was pulling out, the cyclist simply ignored my signals, I hit the brakes but it was just too late."

Hopefully some lessons will be learnt that day.

... or was it Ron Burgundy in the Lexus?

The only motorist that ever came after me got his daddy's brand new SUV impounded. The police towed it right out of his driveway. Took six months to get it back, and they got it back then because I agreed to let the prosecutor plea bargain the case down.

And just for anyone else in Colorado, we have a tagging system in place. Colorado State Patrol has a hotline set up to accept reports of aggressive drivers endangering cyclists.

Three reports on a single driver, and they will contact them. Further reports and they say they'll send someone out to the person's house for further enforcement.

This hotline is available from a cell phone by dialing *CSP, or by calling the CSP at 303-239-4518

See here

Haven't tried it yet, but if I have another incident I will.

bet there's lots of "'hoods" in burlington iowa.:) :)

I can assure you that if I had come after you after you put a boot or pedal into my door. It would be you on the recieving end of police action.

Road Rage is not accepted in the UK, and after placing people under citizens arrest in the past I already know the drill. You will PAY for your actions sooner or later.

You had a lucky break with the car impounding... take on someone with some sense and you'll soon regret it.

Just because it hasnt happened to you yet, doesnt mean it wont, you are in effect playing with not only your life (if a driver loses his temper and flattens you, sure his car will be impounded but you could very well be dead.. Woo but you won right?! :roll:) but your livelyhood (if a driver has more sense than to beat you up but rather hold you and place you under arrest for criminal damage then you'll be facing criminal charges in court and could very well end up with a fine, record, and jail sentence).

Road Rage is stupid, you dont condone following someone in a car then getting out and laying into their vehicle if they beep you at the lights, or cut you up... yet you condone exactly that if your riding a bike?!

Its madness.

tattle-tale. sheesh!:)

Come on down and start kickin' the side of the locals' pickups to teach these fellas a lesson in curtesy. You might learn something. Or on second thought better stick to hassling old men and little old ladies with your bad barbarian routine.

lol sorry mate, but thats the way it is. If I have my car damaged for making a simple mistake by a cyclist then I will follow, I will chase, and I will place him under arrest. If needs be I will call the police using hands free and allow them to make the arrest.

That said I dont drive at the moment (no licence, never been arsed to actually get it), but yeah... im sure im not the only guy out there who's done similar things in the past. :)

Does this hotline act on anonymous reports? If so it is ripe for abuse and should be disconnected. If the complainers are unwilling to identify themselves how much credibility should they be given? A quick glance at the posts on this thread should indicate that some bicyclists lack all sense of proportion, have no credibility, and if anything should be reporting themselves to the authorities.

"citizen's arrest". yeah right. you must be one tough hombre if you can arrest anybody. please.:)

dude. you know i roll fixed. ain't no hicks gonna teach me nuthin'! just sayin'!:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/powersofarrest.shtml (Scroll to bottom)

In the uk the general public have the right to place people under a citizens arrest, providing they have witnessed them commit a criminal act.

Myself, I arrested 3 blokes after being assaulted by them. Then got the police involved whilst I held them on the floor, as opposed to transporting them myself to the station.

Its a certain possibility for you to encounter (not sure on laws in the USA but would have thought the capacity should be there) and if I had someone such as yourself damaging my car you can expect to be confronted with "reasonable force" and brought to justice over your actions.

I never said I put a boot or a pedal on the car. In fact I did no damage to the car whatsoever, despite the fact that they HIT me while travelling parallel to me. I slapped the side of the truck with the palm of my hand, doing nothing more than making a resounding bang.

The motorist then chased me across the road, and the passenger leaned out the rear window and struck me across the back with a 4 foot long ice scraper.

Bunch of kids joy riding around in daddy's brand new SUV.

If I make contact with a vehicle, it's 100% the driver's fault. I don't chase people or swerve towards them in an attempt to damage their property. If you're close enough for me to touch the vehicle, YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW. period.

Go ahead and call the police.

You'd need to be pretty well versed in the law to get away with that here. Holding the "blokes" is false imprisonment under most circumstances and state laws. You get to defend yourself and others up to the point when there is a clear escape from harm, beyond that the criminals have more rights than you do.

Case in point, a former instructor of mine took out some home invaders and held them in his garage until police arrived. Charged with false imprisonment. He was within his rights to defend himself and his family, had they been there, even with lethal force since they had weapons. He did not have the right to detain them.

Granted there is also the comeback of wrongful arrest if you do it, or excessive force but to put it into perspective.

This is acceptable force and is about as close a thing I can find on the net that is similar except I was straddling 2 of the guys.

http://www.machinehead-software.co.u...ns_arrest.html

And I wouldnt attempt to arrest you if you simply yelled at me, slapping my car is excessive.. but if I didnt see you then fair enough, prefer you let me know your there as opposed to mowing you over because your in my blind spot. It was more in response to the guy with the size nines.

Oh.. they saw me. They were screaming out the window (6 inches from my face) to get out of the road.

How many single occupancy cars even look at their passenger side rear fender?

Well... not really.

For starters, I don't run into hassles with raging cagers on my bicycle nearly as much as I do when I'm in the thick of traffic with these idiots. For me, riding a bicycle is tons better than by any other vehicle. Totally peaceful by comparison. I love it. A much purer experience.

Anyway... The spark plug trick is pure self defense. The other two tricks are revenge are done so that no one can trace it back to the rider. (BTW, in 22 years of maintaining a motorcycle license, I have hurled objects or gotten into real beefs fewer than five times. I count myself lucky; friends have experienced much worse.)

To go full circle, I still say driver education is the best solution. Adding 20 questions all concerning sharing the road with bicylists and motorcyclists to the written portion of a driver's license test will do a much better job reducing on the number of dumb drivers and solving our problems. Vandalizing some stupid cager's car teaches them nothing. All it does is satisfy your base need to get even.

For once, I'm with I like to bike on this. Unless you're just hitting back at the easy targets, getting aggressive is just going to end badly. Fortunately, I got very little hassle here in the UK, but if I did, I'd be trying to restrain my desire to hit back, because whilst I'm a big guy and I can take care of myself, 3 Chavs in a souped up Saxo, quite possibly carrying knives, and definitely armed with a 3/4 ton killing machine are likely to be too much of a match for me.

I also can't see how that type of reaction is going to help overall - the USA has a cutural problem with aggression and selfcentredness, and if you respond in kind, all you do is show that you are equally a product of the culture. You can only hope to affect that culture AT ALL by finding a better way. Going the same way just ensures that eventually, the person with the biggest weapon wins, and unless you're going to start carrying a gun, it's always going to be the guy with the car, right?

i have to call bull**** on the whole "citizen's arrest" thing. urban myth.:)

No, it happens in the UK. Not often, but it really does happen.