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Old 02-27-07, 06:22 AM
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Wireless working with HID.

I got a new computer for my weekend road bike and I moved the specialized turbo wireless computer to my commuter. Here's the weird thing, the wireless speed transmitter's working with the HID light now. It never used to work before. The only difference I can think of is that the light is mounted upside down now so its about 5 inches away vs. 2-3 inches before. Weird.
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Flight deck wireless works fine with my L&M ARC, but the lamp is on my helmet .
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all it takes is a little change to ge it to work. just mounting the light on the right and the computer on the left can do it too.
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Hey slvoid, do you have an Edison, or is that someone else?
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That's 2manybikes. I have a lowly arc.
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My Cateye wireless only works with the HID if tilted forward a bit.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
That's 2manybikes. I have a lowly arc.

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Originally Posted by 2manybikes

I think you need two handlebars for all those lights .

The reason I ask is that I've got some images of the new Wilma, as bright as your Edison. Want me to post 'em? They are on my blog, but I can repost here.
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Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
I think you need two handlebars for all those lights .

The reason I ask is that I've got some images of the new Wilma, as bright as your Edison. Want me to post 'em? They are on my blog, but I can repost here.
Would you like to borrow a couple of extra bars for yourself?

Let's see Wilma.
I wonder if Lupine knew she was married to Fred Flintstone when they decided on the name?
I did not think the new Wilma was 900 lumens, but close. All the Lupine HID's reach 900.

With 420 lumens, Wilma is already close to standard competitors H.I.D. systems at 500 lumens but there are many advantages to this LED system over standard H.I.D. systems


The USA distributor is posting in the "light selection guide. He says the new Wilma will be 730 lumens and there will be a modification kit you can get to boost it to 830.

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It's call EMF. If your HID has a real bad EMF output then it can interfear with the computer. Now that it is far enough away it works fine. a low EMF will dissapate quickly so the 2 or 3 inch makes the difference.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Would you like to borrow a couple of extra bars for yourself?

Let's see Wilma.
I wonder if Lupine knew she was married to Fred Flintstone when they decided on the name?
I did not think the new Wilma was 900 lumens, but close. All the Lupine HID's reach 900.

With 420 lumens, Wilma is already close to standard competitors H.I.D. systems at 500 lumens but there are many advantages to this LED system over standard H.I.D. systems


The USA distributor is posting in the "light selection guide. He says the new Wilma will be 730 lumens and there will be a modification kit you can get to boost it to 830.
One small correction. The current Wilma is, as you stated, 420 lumens. The current (and last years) Wilma can be upgraded to 750 lumens. The new Wilma, which I believe uses a different housing and/or electronics, will be 830 lumens.

Here are the beam shots I was sent. I did not take these, so I cannot give you any details.

Current:


New:


and the almighty Edison:


To keep things on topic, I've never had a problem with the Wilma interfering with my wireless computer. My Arc did/does, and the big DiNottes do if they are very close to the computer.
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Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
and the almighty Edison:
It seems they sent you a beam shot of the Edison on low. It's nothing like mine.

The ones they now have on the Lupine web site matches what I see.

Edison 10 on low.



Edison 10 on high.

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hmmmm.

I'll have to wait and see. I should have one in about a month (Wilma, that is) and can compare it to an Arc, at least. Might have to try and get an Edison too
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Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
hmmmm.

I'll have to wait and see. I should have one in about a month (Wilma, that is) and can compare it to an Arc, at least. Might have to try and get an Edison too
I'd let you try mine, but it would be a long ride from Rhode Island.
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I have the arc hid and the only one that works is my Polar S710 & S725.. My cateye wireless goes blank once I turn the hid on.. My primary night bike, I went with a wired unit..
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I'd let you try mine, but it would be a long ride from Rhode Island.
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Originally Posted by acidinmylegs

You could ride over here.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
You could ride over here.
I better get started!
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
You could ride over here.
I actually can ride over there. About 130 miles to the tip of long island, take the ferry over, then another maybe 40 miles if I survive those roads.

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I have the arc hid and the only one that works is my Polar S710 & S725.. My cateye wireless goes blank once I turn the hid on.. My primary night bike, I went with a wired unit..
I called specialized and light&motion and both of em said "you shouldn't be looking at your computer at night anyway" so I said, "then why does your computer have a back light?" and they said "keep your eyes on the road." That was that.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I actually can ride over there. About 130 miles to the tip of long island, take the ferry over, then another maybe 40 miles if I survive those roads.



I called specialized and light&motion and both of em said "you shouldn't be looking at your computer at night anyway" so I said, "then why does your computer have a back light?" and they said "keep your eyes on the road." That was that.
They make it out like, you should never look at your computer while riding it.
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My Cygolite HID interfered with my Specialized computer, but when I got the Trail Tech HID, the problem went away.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I actually can ride over there. About 130 miles to the tip of long island, take the ferry over, then another maybe 40 miles if I survive those roads.
If you take the ferry from Montauk, to Block Island, and then to Newport R.I. you mileage estimate is right on the money. It's a lot of hours just sitting on a ferry, but it actually is not a bad idea for a ride.. The roads here might make you think you went to bicycle heaven.

You can use my light, but I want it back before you go.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I actually can ride over there. About 130 miles to the tip of long island, take the ferry over, then another maybe 40 miles if I survive those roads.



I called specialized and light&motion and both of em said "you shouldn't be looking at your computer at night anyway" so I said, "then why does your computer have a back light?" and they said "keep your eyes on the road." That was that.
I have an extra light strapped to my helmet. I'm looking at tons of stuff on my long, lonely ride to work:

computer, watch, snot on my arm warmers, things running beside me in the woods, etc. It makes the ride more funner
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Originally Posted by substructure
I have an extra light strapped to my helmet. I'm looking at tons of stuff on my long, lonely ride to work:

computer, watch, snot on my arm warmers, things running beside me in the woods, etc. It makes the ride more funner
I've been using a Knog Bar Frog mounted on my helmet so that I can see my computer, watch and snot.

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With a good powerful light you don't need any accessory lights to see the computer or anything on the bike while moving if you can ride with one hand just for a few seconds.


If you want a super bright light hold a white water bottle high over the front of the headlight and aim the blinding beam down at the computer, it's close to daylight. With a bright headlight a plain hand works OK. Any light colored water bottle will work. With a white bottle, not only can you see the computer, you can check the rear cogs for chain position or anything else. You can light up the whole bike. It's beautiful. A black glove only reflects enough light to see the computer with the brightest lights of all. If you get a flat, lie your bike on it's side aimed at a white bottle for a nice camping lantern.

I made a fiber optic cable that took light from the headlight and aimed at the computer. That ran the best as it needs no power. I have two of the Sigma accessory mount bike computer lights made to go on the bars to light your computer. They work very well.

I don't use either anymore. The reflected light from the headlight is so much better it's not even close.
I watch things running beside me in the dark, or behind me, just from my headlight, but a waterbottle sends light sideways too if you want.

Of course it's much more fun to look for small lights on line and attach them to your bike or your helmet.
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