View Poll Results: Do you think daylight savings is good or evil?
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Poll: Daylight Savings, Good or Evil?
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Good when it's on.
I vote for making the change permanent.
I vote for making the change permanent.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Now that the world has gotten so interconnected, I would frankly favor moving everything to UCT. Many of the people I work with are in different time zones, and things like time zones and time shifting is an unnecessary cause of confusion. Anyone who travels across during a switch to or from DST has to be extra careful (taking into account exactly where they are) in addition to the normal time zones.
Why it is important to eat lunch when the clock says 12:00 or leave when it says 5:00 is beyond me. Knowing what time it is should not be confusing. The only thing that makes it confusing is the habit of people for fiddling with the instrument they use for measuring it.
Why it is important to eat lunch when the clock says 12:00 or leave when it says 5:00 is beyond me. Knowing what time it is should not be confusing. The only thing that makes it confusing is the habit of people for fiddling with the instrument they use for measuring it.
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I would really be in support of UTC for everything... our Congress really made things miserable for IT by switching the dates.... I also have pondered why the rest of the world (outside IT and the military) doesn't just use a 24 hour time scale... why bother with AM/PM?
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Just as I was getting ready to put away the lights for the spring, I had to get them charged up for this morning's ride.
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I'm indifferent for rec. rides as I don't mind riding in the morning when it's dark, but for commuting it's a bit of a pain. My commute to the trolley station in the morning is 3/4 of a mile or I can skip the trolley and ride to the next trolley/bus stop 3 miles away where I catch the bus. No matter which station I choose, I need to have enough lighting to see and it's a bit of a hassle to carry an expensive headlight that will sit in my panniers most of the day. I don't mind the rear blinkies as I always have two of them on the bike anyways.
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Originally Posted by newbojeff
Interesting. I had thought it would be more "good" than this so far.
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I like the idea of moving my work an hour ahead...gives me more daylight in the evenings to ride or mess around with my son. Seems to me, it would be easier to keep the clocks the same and move business hours ahead 1 hour earlier, but that would never work...moving the clock messes with people heads and thats the point, it forces them to adjust.
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from an entirely selfish point of view it works for me. Today it was great to ride home in the full light of day and, had I been able to get of work out a little earlier, I almost had enough time to extend my riding with an 1 1/2 hour road ride.
Whether it makes real practical, political, economic or conservation sense- I'd have to do a lot more research before I dared venture an opinion. I'm sure it has the potential to be very negative for some people and very positive for some people. How that balances out- I have no idea.
Whether it makes real practical, political, economic or conservation sense- I'd have to do a lot more research before I dared venture an opinion. I'm sure it has the potential to be very negative for some people and very positive for some people. How that balances out- I have no idea.
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I used to like it when it gave me more time to ride and do stuff after work, but lately my schedule has changed such that I'm doing early morning training rides. It was just getting to the point, over the past few weeks, where my morning rides were more light than dark, DST screws that all up .
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Originally Posted by bikebuddha
Eeeeevil with a capital E.
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I initially said "Don't Care", but this morning I realized what the advantage of DST is for me personally. I've always enjoyed the transition from night to day when driving in the past. Now I leave my home pitch dark and get to experience this beautiful transition on my bike. Excellent!
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Originally Posted by CdCf
It is incredibly stupid and pointless. It serves no purpose whatsoever.
It should be outlawed through international treaties.
Just for the record, I'm dead serious. I realised my post could be seen as sarcastic. It's not.
It should be outlawed through international treaties.
Just for the record, I'm dead serious. I realised my post could be seen as sarcastic. It's not.
NOT
HAVE
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IT
BETTER
MYSELF!!
That makes two (2!) dead serious bike-riding nuts with extreme opinions on this!
(no -- i'm not being sarcastic, either; i just know that ANY extreme opinion gets the 'nut' label at one time or another.)
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It has a small effect on reducing peak power loads from street lights coming on just as folk are getting home and firing up appilances, so I count it as good.
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I tend to think that DST is more trouble than it's worth. That being said, however, I don't really have a strong opinion on the matter.
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Originally Posted by centuryman
Instead of "daylight saving time" I think it should be called "more government meddling in our life time". I don't see how it really saves that much energy. The lights are either on in the morning or in the evening. I think most people drive around more during DST. If the government is really concerned about energy conservation they could pass some laws with real teeth in them. Like tax breaks for those who really save energy not just those rich enough to buy new things and get an energy related rebate.
I think the concept might look good on paper but sucks otherwise. My job hours vary based on available daylight not on some freakin' clock. In fact it is costing my guys more time and money now, because they are stuck in morning rush hour traffic instead of coming in an hour before..
As far as saving energy there are a lot more methods that could be implemented that would make more sense and probably save even more energy, like having people switch to compact fluorescent bulbs, DRIVE THE FRIGGIN' POSTED SPEED LIMITS!! I bet if they could enforce mandatory speed limits on major highways they would save a huge amount of fuel. Chip all big trucks to 65 mph or perhaps even less.
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Originally Posted by centuryman
Instead of "daylight saving time" I think it should be called "more government meddling in our life time". I don't see how it really saves that much energy. The lights are either on in the morning or in the evening. I think most people drive around more during DST. If the government is really concerned about energy conservation they could pass some laws with real teeth in them. Like tax breaks for those who really save energy not just those rich enough to buy new things and get an energy related rebate.
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
I bet if they could enforce mandatory speed limits on major highways they would save a huge amount of fuel. Chip all big trucks to 65 mph or perhaps even less.
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pffft... as long as you're passing laws, let's just ban the sale of all new clothes dryers. Simple law, easy to enforce and HUGE energy savings - much more than some measly speed-limit enforcement.
That would seem very extreme to most everyone though. We're just not in a place where people are willing to sacrifice anything meaningful.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Just as I was getting ready to put away the lights for the spring, I had to get them charged up for this morning's ride.
Not good. And all those kids standing at bus stops are in the dark, too. Their parents probably prefer the earlier light...
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I was just getting used to having light in the morning! Now I'm back to riding my morning shift in the dark again. Whine, whine, whine.
On the other hand I'm looking forward to starting a rec ride on the tandem at 7pm.
On the other hand I'm looking forward to starting a rec ride on the tandem at 7pm.