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mmonce 03-16-07 07:23 AM

Poncho or Rain Jacket?
 
What is your preference and why?

soreyes 03-16-07 11:10 AM

Rain jackets - something breathable. I like to be able to zip it up or down as air and body temps fluctuate during the ride. I use an older patagonia snow shell during the cold weather and a lighter old rei packable rain jacket when it warms up. Neither are completely waterproof. The rei jacket isn't really waterproof at all due to the internal coating being mostly worn off. They both keep me warm (if not damp) when combined with wiking base layers of varying thickness depending on air temps.
A poncho might work well if it had a neck zipper, wasn't too flappy, and was a little breathable. If it is just plastic, perspiration will probably soak from within. In that case, wiking base layers will also be helpful.

fenester 03-16-07 12:11 PM

How about a cape?

I haven't used one yet, but seems like a good compromise for warmer weather. The thumb loops keep it stretched out over your legs, leaving the whole bottom open to breathe.

Phantoj 03-16-07 12:23 PM

I have started wearing a soft shell jacket (Marmot ATV) for everything except hard rain. It's got just the right amount of windproofness, and it wicks fantastically. It's black, so I recently got a hiviz reflective vest to go over it. The best part is that I can walk around in the jacket with the vest off and look totally normal. Haven't tried a poncho or rain cape, but I hit some seriously high speeds, and I don't think they'd do the job.

thdave 03-16-07 12:28 PM

How 'bout both?:)

I've got a nice water resistant jacket and a rain cape from Campmor. My plan is to only use the cape when it's raining hard. Problem is, I've only had it a month and haven't tried it out yet. I just keep it in my bag and one day I'll use it.

On the other hand, if I take it out it will pour. That very day!

fillthecup 03-16-07 12:33 PM

I used a poncho in Ireland. My legs got wet, but my upper body was dry, and it was breathable.

It's also a huge wind drag, billowing out behind you like a cape. Very visible to cars, but it did interfere with me checking over my shoulder.

I don't have the $$$ to buy a good rain jacket + rain pants, so I'll stick to the poncho.

Plus you can use the poncho as a tarp for a tent, and as a privacy guard if you need to change or use the outdoor facilities where people might be around.

MichaelW 03-16-07 12:45 PM

Ponchos may be better for heavy tropical rain with a light wind. For almost anything else, jackets are more convenient.

GStateFaithful 03-16-07 03:17 PM

Rain cape.

I used the J&G Cape this winter in San Francisco and it worked wonderfully. Granted this year the weather has been pretty mild and we didn't get any storms where the rain flew horizontally, the cape kept me dry. It has loops for the wrists and waist and is cut so it does not block my handle bar lights.

ItsJustMe 03-16-07 07:49 PM

Jacket. I want it partially to keep me warm. If it's warm enough that I could wear a cape or poncho, I actually prefer to just get wet; it doesn't bother me at all and I kind of enjoy it. When I want to keep the rain off is when it's chilly, like < 55*F or so, and in that weather I want the jacket as a windbreaker even if it's not raining.

edtrek 03-17-07 07:59 AM

Rain Cape - IF (and only if) your bike has fenders, and you have rain booties.

This page : http://www.thirdwave-websites.com/bike/rain-capes.cfm has come rain cape photos and a bit of info.

The cape has the potential to leave you dry and cool, with some wetness about the feet.

robtown 03-17-07 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by mmonce
What is your preference and why?

I tried a rain cape briefly in the Seagull century. Hooking my thumbs through the loops was clumsy and I found it hard to operate the controls. I had to be very careful not to snag the arebar elbow pads. The cape billowed in the headwind effectively becoming an air brake. The back flapped up and got hung on my backpack.
I'd say thumbs down on cape. My winter jacket is water repellant and has worked in light precipitation. I also have a $10 performance rain jacket that works fine in cold weather.

cyclezealot 03-17-07 08:53 AM

great suggestion as to rain cycling. Don't forget the fenders, should you ride very often in the rain. Big plus. I prefer full rain gear , jacket and rainproof tights. Plus, don't forget the head cover. Chilly rain water going down one's neck sort of ruins a rain jackets effectiveness.
Again, rain jackets just breath better.

Sluggo 03-17-07 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by cyclezealot
... Again, rain jackets just breath better.

I have never had a rain jacket that breathed adequately. Maybe I just sweat a lot, but the only advantage a jacket has for me is that it keeps off the wind. I will be wet from inside.

A cape/poncho can be awkward to keep your thumbs in the loops, does not work real well for drop bars, requires fenders (unlike a rain suit) and a front fender flap, but it works best for me for commuting in street clothes. It breathes better because there is air flow from below, so I stay dryer.

biketony 03-17-07 07:01 PM

I reviewed my rain cape in the thread, "Rain Cape in North America". Like others say, the cape is fine for commuting/errands when worn over one's 'regular' clothing. When I get my recumbent, I'll most likely get a rain jacket of some sort, as the cape will be useless for that application. And yes, fenders are a must!

Lurch 03-17-07 07:42 PM

I once saw a rider in Amsterdam using an umbrella in a light rain. He was holding it out in front with one hand. It didn't look like a good idea though.

newbojeff 03-17-07 08:16 PM

I did that when I was in Japan...and, indeed, it is not a good idea.

znomit 03-17-07 08:18 PM

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Tom Stormcrowe 03-17-07 08:20 PM

Waterproof and breathable all weather runners shell and pants. Alternatively, a poncho. Both are cheap but they work!~

j_mavros 03-17-07 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Waterproof and breathable all weather runners shell and pants. Alternatively, a poncho. Both are cheap but they work!~

Could you share the brand? I've never been able to find anything that wasn't a tradeoff among these three criteria (in fact, most I've tried seem to be a tradeoff between breathable and waterfproof, at any price).

Jim-in-Kirkland 03-18-07 09:22 AM

Raincape & spats (covers shoe up to top of knee) with bike with fenders - front light on handlebar extension tube that drops it below the raincape over the handlebars.... cape does have a waist tie to keep it from flapping in the wind... outfit made by Burley in the 70's - sized s,m,l,xl etc.. vs current purchase options of "one size fits all". Outfit is relatively compact & easy to take on & off as rain comes & goes...

I have a rain jacket but got tired of legs getting wet - now shopping for rain paints and rain booties to have 2 options - rain cape & spats or rain jacket/pant/shoe combo.

diff_lock2 03-18-07 09:39 AM

i use a poncho. It works really well, its just like a tent.

rule 03-18-07 09:41 AM

Showers Pass...will be wearing it almost all of this week from the looks of the forecast.

cyclezealot 03-18-07 10:28 AM

where I live I never have expereinced a warm rain. It's always almost rain free all summer, where I have lived. Should I ever ride in a warm rain, I will ride without any rain gear. Warm rains are cool.

rule 03-18-07 03:36 PM

Truly.

Russ 03-19-07 07:08 PM

Comments apply to Puget Sound weather...

I carry a cape in the summer because it doesn't rain very much, and I don't want to haul around a jacket.

But the fact is, I don't really like the cape too much. Maybe it's just me, but the rain tends to pool where the fabric is stretched between my arms and hands, until it gets heavy enough that it dumps on my crotch or shoes. Since I get so sweaty (wet) in the summer anyway, I may just leave it at home this year.

No contest in the winter, though. When it's raining, a cape won't keep even begin to keep me dry, and even when it's not raining, I wear my rain jacket (burley rock point) to keep warm.

wahoonc 03-19-07 07:40 PM

Another cape/poncho fan here. I have never had a truly "breathable" rain suit and I have the receipts to prove it:p I have both the Campmor cape and an older Carradice model that I picked up at an estate sale for $1:D it is similar to the current Duxbacks line. As long as you aren't trying to break the land speed record, have decent fenders and flaps a cape works fine. Most of my bikes also have upright bars which helps.

Aaron:)

tomg 03-19-07 08:04 PM

-i started 1980 with a "Sears" poncho, got wet, it flew around in the wind, not good experience. $12

-went with BIKE-WAREHOSE (bikenashbar) bike rainsuit chaffs/jacket, less sweat, got wet. $35

-in 1982 got first gore-text (gore-sweat) suit, big improvemrnt over the upper two listed, but more $. $145

-wife got me performance gore-tex suit 1997, i have commuted and toured with it, even today, 10 years later, well worth the cost! $230 / 10 years = $23 per/year (so far)!

-look at your stage/level of riding, commitment, and willingness to try options. are you getting wet on a 2 mile fun ride around the block or are you in the process of getting to your job/riding extended self- contained tour?

these are questions to ponder buying your rainsuit. stay dry!

Phantoj 03-20-07 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Russ
No contest in the winter, though. When it's raining, a cape won't keep even begin to keep me dry, and even when it's not raining, I wear my rain jacket (burley rock point) to keep warm.

A soft shell is better at keeping you warm than a rain jacket. It's really better in all conditions except steady or heavy rain.

Russ 03-20-07 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Phantoj
A soft shell is better at keeping you warm than a rain jacket. It's really better in all conditions except steady or heavy rain.

You're probably right - I've never owned a soft shell but I'd like to someday - $$$. In the winter, I suspect that a W/B jacket would be more versatile, since there's a high probability of rain, and it's cold enough that sweating isn't much of a problem. I think a shell would probably be ideal for spring and summer though. Right now, I'm carrying my W/B stuff for the cold mornings and/or rain, and my lighter nylon stuff for the warmer afternoons. If a had a softshell, I'd probably just use it and leave the rest at home.

Phantoj 03-20-07 06:51 PM

I wear the soft shell, and keep the W/B handy in case of a downpour.


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