I'm always strapped. My right fist is thunder and my left fist is lightning.

I have one that is carbon and the other is steel if one don't kill you the other one wheels.... are loose don't forget to tighten them scooours up... yours buddy
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hm.. If you're in a car and you threaten anyone, the cops will .. nah they'll just ignore you and move on. I need a holographic projector so they'll think I'm in a car then I can do anything I want.

I ride the weapon. Ever catch a knuckle on a chainring. Imagine the potential carnage under attack....

I've heard of some riders carrying squirt guns filled with ammonia when they travel in neighborhood with a reputation for packs of dogs.

Anybody with a water bottle battery has a pretty good weapon right there. You could deliver a good blow swinging one of those babies.

It's odd but I've never had a situation escalate because of use of a weapon. I don't know why people who don't carry assume that those who do will pull a gun if you look at them funny. I have however had people attempt to run me over going so far as to come up on a curb after me then follow me and wait for me to leave so they could attempt it again. (this is why I carry mace now) have been attacked by dogs, and plan on riding in places with bears and other wild animals. I'm afraid that using wit and words to talk my way out of a confrontation with a charging black or grizz just won't work. So I'll stick with the .357 if I may. The 12 guage comes apart and fits nicely in my large hiking pack. I simply wanted to go duck hunting last year so took a cheapy mountain bike up to the lake by my house, scored a couple malards and went home not a bad way to spend the day imho.

Weapon?
Before you could blink I could kill you 17 different ways with a paperclip.
Using bike parts I can take on a gang of 50 hired assassins and leave none standing.
I could make a projectile weapon from handlebars in less than 20 seconds.
I can combine bike solvents and cleaners to create an explosive device so deadly the formula is classified top secret by the CIA.
Do I carry a weapon? I AM a weapon.

Can I have your autograph?

That's classified too. It's the encryption code to Fort Knox's vault.

I carry a weapon at all times, the most dangerous one on the planet! My mind, anything else is just an adjunct tool as an accessory to it!

I had a handgun carry permit and carried a gun about 5 times in as many years. About one pound of steel shifting position, digging its sharp corners into your leg or back, worrying about it showing (you MUST have it hidden or you could be arrested), having it fall out of the holster during an interview .... Can you imagine losing a loaded gun somewhere (like in the restaurant) and a little kid picks finds it?

When they come out with a small, light GPS/cell phone/phaser, I'll set it to stun and be carrying once more.

Am I the only one here who thinks that the idea of carrying a "fake gun" is increadibly dangerous and ill advised ? Trust me, there are lots of people out there who carry lawfully(like myself). If you pull your "fake gun" on them, you may just end up forfiting your life. Serioulsy, people have been killed by doing this. I strongly recomend you reconsider that idea. Someone carrying lawfully isn't going to inspect your "fake gun" to see if it's real or not. Very good way to get yourself killed. I know personaly, that my weapon would NEVER clear the holster unless I thought my life was in imminent danger, like say... if someone drew a gun on me.
Something I hope the O.P. thinks long and hard about.

Not that I advocate using a "weapon" or anything. I don't think a lot of you are taking this person's initial question too seriously. What is it about your particular environment that causes you to want to use a weapon against someone? And if you feel that is absolutely silly then why?

Personally, I think threatening someone would just make things worse - especially your average over-angry driver. But sometimes at night in the city people get mugged. Not that that happens a lot to people on bicycles. However, I know people who don't think anything of carrying brass knuckles. Most all of the girls on my campus carry mace, or these sharp key chain weapons to use against attackers. I think it's ridiculous, but it comes with living in the middle of the city. The suburbs is a completely different story though....

if you have a good holster and get it positioned correctly you should never have to worry about it moving around or falling out. on that note, depending on the state and local laws, it can be a pain in the butt to carry. but i still do about all the time, but i dont live in the best neighbor to be riding late at night like i often have to do.

Depends; weapons like a combat knife or stun gun (I carry the latter) that require getting in close and personal and correspondingly are easy to flee IMO don't cause escalation. But firearms do; if I thought some high proportion of people carried firearms I'd have to carry one as well, and I'd have to assume anyone I face in an argument is armed and prepared to use it. So I better use it first -- I'd rather defend myself in court and possibly go to prison than be dead. I'd also have to assume the JAM in front of me thinks exactly the same way.

You're not alone. See my first post on this thread.

Weapons don't escalate confrontations, people do.


I don't get that either. I guess, its because most non-gun folks got their impressions of gun owners from Hollywood, not reality.
Most, if not all, of the most pleasant people I know, I met from the gun games. I for one, would walk (or ride) a mile or more, to avoid trouble (potentially lethal encounter, if you will), if I have a chance. But most times, as you might know, based on recent events, life's troubles doesn't present itself with a fair warning, thus, I choose to carry a self defense tool.
BTW and FYI, the biggest part of my CHL class, besides gun laws, is de-escalation and avoidance techniques, not gun handling. So, no, CHL holders are not a bunch of roving blood thirsty creatures.

Yeah, and when guns are involved, people can escalate everything a whole lot further.

Seems to be a similar mentality here to those driving enormous SUVs:

"Well, if I crash, I WIN, and that dork in the sedan is toast!"

"If I get into a fight, I can just pop a cap in his a**! Ha!"

I've got Ron Burgandy's GUNS!!!


That's all I'll ever need. I just need to work my guns. YEAH BABY!!!

Following on from Zoridog, I'm just wondering whether people who do carry knives/guns do so on their hip/in a holster/exposed, or whether it's in a pack or something. Personally, I live in a place where CCW is not legal (and I don't particularly care for it to be), but if I did live in a CCW legal jurisdiction, I probably would own a weapon at home, if it were legal. But even then I don't think I would carry it on the bike - it seems like it would be a hassle, tiring and more trouble than it's worth. But then I think the same thing about singlespeeding and lots of people do that...

I have a concealed pistol permit & sometimes carry a small 9 mm. At home, I prefer a shotgun or my Combat Commander. I live in a rural area & my neighbor is also retired law enforcement. We keep an eye on each other's property. Don

It's a case of the noisy few vs. the quiet majority. A few people who carry make frequent and windy noises about how they'd love to use their firearm on a "perp". They're pretty clearly not talking from experience, but it doesn't take a lot of windbags to create a bit of a reputation for a group.

Interesting reaction. What had you done, or what did they think you'd done?

Black AND grizz? Where are you riding? Where I live, black bears are common as dirt. I've had plenty of encounters, and unless you do something flat-out dumb, they are not going to start with you (not that a handgun is a good option anyway).

Yeah. A handgun is not going to stop a charging grizzly. On my trail crew in Alaska we had a shotgun (we were required, apparently, to have it). But some of the rangers were skeptical that even that would stop a grizzly, unless the aim was really lucky/good.

And black bears are usually pretty unaggressive. Plus, some of them are almost as big as grizzlies, so the same logic applies: a handgun wouldn't cut it.

I had mine fall out in front of a cop before. She arrested me for indecent exposure
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just carry a gun, if someone is trying to rob you or hurt you then the are better off dead anyways. you never know, you killing a bad guy might keep him from killing an innocent old lady or kid. just my opinion.