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Old 06-23-07 | 10:59 PM
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' too lazy' is the answer I get a lot.
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Old 06-24-07 | 12:39 AM
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Old 06-24-07 | 01:02 AM
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' too lazy' is the answer I get a lot.
I use my bike instead of other means of transport whenever I can, and part of the reason is that I'm too lazy... to exercise any other way. I have no motivation whatsoever to exercise on a regular basis, long-term, unless it's playing a sport or going from one place to another on a bike.
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Old 06-24-07 | 04:07 AM
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I don't worry about it. My coworkers all take the bus. That's fine with me. If they ask me for cycling tips, I'll give them, but I don't want to hear about how the bus is great any more than they want to hear about how cycling's great.
This is similar to the approach I take (well, except that my city of 500,000 has virtually non-existent public transport, but I digress). For one thing, people who don't want to commute by bicycle will always find a reason. There are issues regarding the perceived effort, the status and the perceived danger. Even after you answer all their objections, there's always the old "I just don't want to", to which there is no answer. Secondly, as a car free commuter cyclist, the last thing I want is people like this taking up cycling without any kind of formal training, putting me in danger and giving the government just about all the incentive they need to start taxing cycling. Forget it, I like beating the car-centric system, not being part of a bike-centric system with the same undesirable attributes.
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Old 06-24-07 | 06:41 AM
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Why should I care if they 'make an effort to think about it more seriously' or not? It's their life, not mine. If they express an interest I am happy to help in any way I can, but if they don't, oh well, nothing for me to be concerned, angry or even spend time thinking about.
for me, I think it's the unsolicited implication that somehow circumstances dictate that I am able to ride my bicycle and the other person is not, that somehow it's always a gentle, benign experience full of sunshine, smiles, happy wildlife, flowers, balloons, pleasant drivers, et al. it is even worse when this parlays--again, unsolicited--into a communique on why he or she absolutely needs an automobile.
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Old 06-24-07 | 09:06 AM
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Here's one from a coworker of mine, whose wife also works there, and has some health issues (and wouldn't be able to ride a bike.) My work is moving to less than 2 miles from where he lives, I believe.

"I want to do it, but it wouldn't be taking a car off the road - my wife would have to drive anyway."

(They do drive in the same car as it is, though, so at least they carpool.)

Why don't I commute the full distance? I don't feel like doing a century commute. And, why don't I do my "hybrid commute" every day? I'm lazy, ill-prepared for weather, and like to sleep in WAY too much.
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Old 06-24-07 | 09:39 AM
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I use my bike instead of other means of transport whenever I can, and part of the reason is that I'm too lazy... to exercise any other way. I have no motivation whatsoever to exercise on a regular basis, long-term, unless it's playing a sport or going from one place to another on a bike.
That's been a huge factor for me - if I'm on my way somewhere on the bike, I have no excuse to stop because I'm tired or it's boring (the way I always do at the gym).

Then I discovered how much fun it is to tinker with bikes
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Old 06-24-07 | 10:50 AM
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I put off cyclocommuting for about 6 months because, with young twins, our schedule is nuts and I need to be able to get home quickly. Then, it finally dawned on me that if I alter my commute a bit, I can actually get home *faster* on a bike because our traffic is so dysfunctional. This way I get my 50 miles/week on a bike (short commute) without having to stick my wife alone with the kids to do it. Everybody's happy.
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Old 06-24-07 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Why should I care if they 'make an effort to think about it more seriously' or not? It's their life, not mine. If they express an interest I am happy to help in any way I can, but if they don't, oh well, nothing for me to be concerned, angry or even spend time thinking about.
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Agreed, it shouldn't affect me.

I've had the same thing happen to me. A couple of guys said they want to commute but don't like riding on this one particular street. I sit with a window to that street and I probably see half a dozen to a dozen bicyclist every day traveling it, including me for a small portion. But I don't care, that's their loss if it's preventing them from enjoying the ride.
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Old 06-24-07 | 10:03 PM
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Every time I walk into work all bandaged up, my coworkers are like, "That's why I don't ride to work."

I'm a horrible example...
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Old 06-24-07 | 10:16 PM
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Every time I walk into work all bandaged up, my coworkers are like, "That's why I don't ride to work."

I'm a horrible example...
Next time one of your coworkers asks for one of your vicodins, tell them to buy a bike and get in a crash, so they can get their own from a doctor.
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Old 06-24-07 | 10:23 PM
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Your friends are just making polite conversation with you. They mean "I wish I could" in a very abstract way. When my cousin tells me of his latest trip to the Boundary Waters, or to Isle Royale, I probably respond very similarly sometimes. For example, I might respond by saying: "Yeah, that'd be a great to do someday", or "I'd love to do that someday." It's a way of acknowledging how cool something is that someone else does. And I sort of mean what I say, in that I do think the things my cousin does are cool, and I do think they would be fun to do. But, truth be told, I have other things that I am interested in more than canoeing and backpacking (like biking and cross-country skiing).

So your friends are just saying in their own way that they think what you do is really cool. Just take that for what it is, and don't put them on the spot by trying to get them on a bike. The few who are really serious about bike commuting will follow-up more purposefully. You'll know when someone is serious.
Nicely put.
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Old 06-25-07 | 09:45 AM
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Old 06-25-07 | 10:05 AM
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Agreed, it shouldn't affect me.

I've had the same thing happen to me. A couple of guys said they want to commute but don't like riding on this one particular street. I sit with a window to that street and I probably see half a dozen to a dozen bicyclist every day traveling it, including me for a small portion. But I don't care, that's their loss if it's preventing them from enjoying the ride.
One thing you might mention (if they are serious) is that commuting by bike generally means re-thinking your commute path. The fastest route by car is often not the fastest - or most pleasant - route by bike. If they want to take you up on it, offer to help them find a better alternate route. I'd be surprised if something reasonable can't be found.
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Old 06-25-07 | 11:25 AM
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So any recommendations for when it really is too hot (southern california) and there's no shower at work?
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Old 06-25-07 | 11:29 AM
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Baby wipes and a change of clothes. You'd be amazed what you can do with those in a pinch! As long as you start your commute reasonably clean, you're not going to get that stinky no matter how much you sweat on the way in.

If you have short hair, consider dunking your head under the faucet and rinsing your hair. If it's long, I find that letting the sweat dry and then brushing really thoroughly does the trick.
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Old 06-25-07 | 11:30 AM
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"It would mess up my hair." From a guy. A balding guy. I had no response...
Because he has less hair he has to be more careful with what he has? Maybe he's afraid the wind will blow it away?
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Old 06-25-07 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tlupfer
for me, I think it's the unsolicited implication that somehow circumstances dictate that I am able to ride my bicycle and the other person is not....
When gas prices first hit mid $3/gallon (April was it?), four of my cow-orkers were talking about how they were going to deal with the rising cost of commuting. One of them said, "Yeah, it's not like we can ride a bike to work like Dick can!" I'm pretty sure she was unaware I was in my cube. But, the interesting thing is that she lives about as far away from 'ork as I do, just in the opposite direction, and one of the others lives about 1.25 miles *closer* to work than I do. And while my commute is only about 4 miles one way, it's not like I'm only going a couple of blocks, you know? Her comment was met with a chorus of "yeah"s, too, which I thought was quite odd. But, hey...whatever gets you through the day.
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Old 06-25-07 | 11:46 AM
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I once thought more bicycle commuters would be a good thing, but now I struggle to find a bare spot on the bike rack to lock my bike to at work. When people say things like, "I wish I could do that", I say, "no you don't. It's really hard and the drivers are crazy and you get all stinky and sweaty and and and..."
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Old 06-25-07 | 01:32 PM
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I once thought more bicycle commuters would be a good thing, but now I struggle to find a bare spot on the bike rack to lock my bike to at work. When people say things like, "I wish I could do that", I say, "no you don't. It's really hard and the drivers are crazy and you get all stinky and sweaty and and and..."
You evil evil man! *grins*
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Old 06-25-07 | 03:17 PM
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"well if I lived as close as you did...."

I live 6 miles away. My co-workers intentionally bought their places 20+ miles away because they "liked the neighborhood" (cookie-cutter master-planned boxes) and "liked the amenities" (same chain stores as found friggin everywhere).

hard to argue with that...
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Old 06-25-07 | 03:27 PM
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"well if I lived as close as you did...."

I live 6 miles away. My co-workers intentionally bought their places 20+ miles away because they "liked the neighborhood" (cookie-cutter master-planned boxes) and "liked the amenities" (same chain stores as found friggin everywhere).

hard to argue with that...
Usually you can get a bigger house for less money the further you live from work.

It's give and take. You give up some time in the morning to drive (or bike) to work, but you make up a lot by having a lower house payment and generally lower bills and less people in the same chain stores found everywhere.

I'm mixed on what I prefer. Part of me likes saving $$$ a month in my house payment and the better land taxes and the bigger house for my wife and three kids to enjoy... the other part of me wishes i was a bit closer to work so bicycle commuting would be easier and I could save more on gas.

Finding a happy medium is a challenge.
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Old 06-25-07 | 04:36 PM
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Finding a happy medium is a challenge.
Yes, it is. One thing to consider when you compare houses at different distances from work is the value of your time. If you spend 2 hours a day bike-commuting you're either getting needed exercise that you weren't getting, or it's "free" time because you aren't exercising somewhere else. If you spend 2 hours a day/10 hours a week car-commuting, that time is worth money: if your job made you work that many hours extra you would expect to be paid accordingly. Depending on your skills, 10 hours a week of work might be worth $55 or $500+, possibly $20,000 per year after tax. If you didn't save enough on housing to cover the cost of that time, perhaps you've cheated yourself.
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Old 06-26-07 | 05:11 AM
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My driving route to work, about 12 miles, cuts right across six-lane bridge with minimal area for bikes. The next route around the bay is roughly 5 miles out of the way, and is a very fast four-lane that also doesn't make me feel safe. Unfortunately, without adding MANY miles to the commute, there really is no good way to get to work from here. Guess I'd best change jobs!
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Old 06-26-07 | 12:26 PM
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I put off cyclocommuting for about 6 months because, with young twins, our schedule is nuts and I need to be able to get home quickly. Then, it finally dawned on me that if I alter my commute a bit, I can actually get home *faster* on a bike because our traffic is so dysfunctional. This way I get my 50 miles/week on a bike (short commute) without having to stick my wife alone with the kids to do it. Everybody's happy.
When we had our first child it actually encouraged me to be serious about bike commuting. Due to the child, I had much less time for doing weekend and evening rides. If I wanted to ride my bike I had to make it part of my daily routine. Cycling to work takes about 15min extra minutes, mostly due to clean up once I arrive.

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