brakes on a fixie?
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If you put brakes on you won't be a hip hipster, and then your retro New Balance shoes and levis rolled to have cuffs and your wallet chain and your tattoos will be for naught because your bike will give away that you're just a poseur.
In all seriousness riding in the track without brakes is one thing, but riding in the streets is a whole other. I think the brakeless rigs are for either the extremely skilled or the overly bold or the true poseur. Why would you not?
In all seriousness riding in the track without brakes is one thing, but riding in the streets is a whole other. I think the brakeless rigs are for either the extremely skilled or the overly bold or the true poseur. Why would you not?
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Say what? I like to plan for emergencies and dangerous circumstances... especially since they mainly arise when you haven't planned for them, in my experience 
Solid advice. If you want to switch between singlespeed and fixie, you'll want to have two brakes. Also, having two brakes on a road bike looks nice and symmetric and provides an extra hand position (the brake hoods).
That's perfectly good advice... assuming you can judge your comfort level with perfect accuracy. I just think many experience riders will tend to be a little TOO comfortable riding brakeless. You'll think you're totally in control until you suddenly find you're about to rear-end a truck that slammed on its brakes or something. Brakes are cheap and vital when you need them (even if that's rare)... and you can ride your fixie and ignore them the rest of the time!

Solid advice. If you want to switch between singlespeed and fixie, you'll want to have two brakes. Also, having two brakes on a road bike looks nice and symmetric and provides an extra hand position (the brake hoods).
That's perfectly good advice... assuming you can judge your comfort level with perfect accuracy. I just think many experience riders will tend to be a little TOO comfortable riding brakeless. You'll think you're totally in control until you suddenly find you're about to rear-end a truck that slammed on its brakes or something. Brakes are cheap and vital when you need them (even if that's rare)... and you can ride your fixie and ignore them the rest of the time!
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Oh, and to the poster who finds brakeless riders over 30 a rarity: I didn't start riding fixed until I was 41; brakeless a few months later. I feel safer amongst older brakeless fixed gear riders, since we tend to feel our mortality more and have a greater respect for it, and we don't try reckless stunts to earn street cred.
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Get a brake, and learn to go around corners with the pedals spinning. Its really easy to get a pedal strike and go down on a fixie.
And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.
I love riding my fixie, on the track. I don't get riding a fixide on the street.
And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.
I love riding my fixie, on the track. I don't get riding a fixide on the street.
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1. I won't ride a brakeless fixie after my friend had his chain fail backpedaling down a hill (he had a front brake, thankfully).
2. In this litigious day and age why would you ever ride on the street without a brake? If you hit someone, whether or not it was your fault, you are looking to get sued.
2. In this litigious day and age why would you ever ride on the street without a brake? If you hit someone, whether or not it was your fault, you are looking to get sued.
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They probably already told your mommy, even though you are probably older than they are. People who act knowledgeable on the internet crack me up. "I read somewhere..." (probably in some lame ragazine or written by some other 'net forum idiot) They need to just shut the hell up and ride.
To the OP: Get some brake levers (yes, two, so you can get a flip flop hub) and two brakes to go with them. I agree with whoever said that they're practically worth it for the ability to ride on the brake hoods.
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I had a previous fixie with only one brake, and I liked the two-brake version a lot better because of the hoods AND because the feeling of braking the rear wheel on a fixie is weirdly cool.
Seems like the consensus on this thread is:
* Get the brake(s). You'll be glad you have 'em when you occasionally NEED them.
* Having brakes available won't hinder you in using a fixie to strengthen your legs and improve your cadence
* The only reason not to have brakes is for style.
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I think a lot of people responding "get a brake" are making that recommendation based on the assumption that you are a relatively decent human being. Since none of us know you personally, that may not be valid. You could be a complete malignant schm*ck. In that case, I would pass on the whole front brake idea if I were you. First, your friends wouldn't think you were cool and second, being a Junior there is a very good chance that you haven't reproduced yet.
So to recap. If you are a decent person, get a front brake. If you are a malignant schm*ck, go without the front brake. Either way, go out and ride!
So to recap. If you are a decent person, get a front brake. If you are a malignant schm*ck, go without the front brake. Either way, go out and ride!
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Race you around a corner any day, you fixed, me road bike.
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Wait, that was a little dramatic. How about, How much would you pay to avoid pain?
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* the bike is mechanically simple, and thus cheap and reliable (no worries about derailers, shifters, freewheels, etc.)
* a fixed gear provides EXCELLENT traction feedback on slippery surfaces. I find that I cannot ride my thin-tire road bike on snow at all, and slick pavement is very tricky, but can handle them well with a fixie.
* in city traffic, you can speed up and slow down very smoothly just with your knees, so you're not always braking and then struggling to get up to speed again. And you can trackstand at stop signs and stoplights with just a bit of traffic.
* it's a lot of fun for many people!
* it's good for training to improve your cadence
So riding fixed on the street can actually be very practical I feel. So not having gears may be worth it. But not having a brake is very foolish.
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My housemate's boyfriend is a bike messenger in Seattle. He and his buddies have a name for inexperienced FG riders who insist on having no brake - "The Jokers". It's not meant to be a compliment.
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i just got my first fixie, a cayne uno and the only way my parents will let me ride it (i'm a junior in high school) is if i get a front brake installed. so my question is this: does it matter if it's there as long as i'm still using my feet to slow down and i don't use the break?
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I've got a brake on my track bike, and two on the conversion I built. I can't think of any conceivable reason not to, other than looks. I love bare bars with no levers, but not enough to risk my stopping ability - I'd be riding around at 10 mph if I had not brakes. A cross-top lever or goldfinger gets close to the look without sacrificing the stopification.





