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Old 08-01-07 | 01:35 PM
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put a vintage campy record brake caliper and lever on, then your bike will be worth something.
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Old 08-01-07 | 02:10 PM
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If you put brakes on you won't be a hip hipster, and then your retro New Balance shoes and levis rolled to have cuffs and your wallet chain and your tattoos will be for naught because your bike will give away that you're just a poseur.

In all seriousness riding in the track without brakes is one thing, but riding in the streets is a whole other. I think the brakeless rigs are for either the extremely skilled or the overly bold or the true poseur. Why would you not?
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Old 08-01-07 | 03:22 PM
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Put brakes on the thing. You don't have to use them, but they'll be there if you need them.
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Old 08-01-07 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
Say what? I like to plan for emergencies and dangerous circumstances... especially since they mainly arise when you haven't planned for them, in my experience


Solid advice. If you want to switch between singlespeed and fixie, you'll want to have two brakes. Also, having two brakes on a road bike looks nice and symmetric and provides an extra hand position (the brake hoods).


That's perfectly good advice... assuming you can judge your comfort level with perfect accuracy. I just think many experience riders will tend to be a little TOO comfortable riding brakeless. You'll think you're totally in control until you suddenly find you're about to rear-end a truck that slammed on its brakes or something. Brakes are cheap and vital when you need them (even if that's rare)... and you can ride your fixie and ignore them the rest of the time!
You're hysterical. Keep the hits coming!
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Old 08-01-07 | 03:48 PM
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Oh, and to the poster who finds brakeless riders over 30 a rarity: I didn't start riding fixed until I was 41; brakeless a few months later. I feel safer amongst older brakeless fixed gear riders, since we tend to feel our mortality more and have a greater respect for it, and we don't try reckless stunts to earn street cred.
They probably already told your mommy, even though you are probably older than they are. People who act knowledgeable on the internet crack me up. "I read somewhere..." (probably in some lame ragazine or written by some other 'net forum idiot) They need to just shut the hell up and ride.
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Old 08-01-07 | 03:50 PM
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Get a brake, and learn to go around corners with the pedals spinning. Its really easy to get a pedal strike and go down on a fixie.

And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.

I love riding my fixie, on the track. I don't get riding a fixide on the street.
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Old 08-01-07 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
Its really easy to get a pedal strike and go down on a fixie.
For you, I'd wager that's 100% correct.
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Old 08-01-07 | 05:45 PM
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And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.
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They're not man capri's, they're manpris.
And it's not a purse, it's a european carry all!
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Old 08-01-07 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SingingSabre
Your current stopping system is only that chain.

It's a very, very good idea to get a secondary stopping system.
Pretty much says it all. Having a brake is a must, fixed bike or not.
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Old 08-01-07 | 07:35 PM
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If you have to ask, you need a brake.
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Old 08-01-07 | 08:21 PM
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1. I won't ride a brakeless fixie after my friend had his chain fail backpedaling down a hill (he had a front brake, thankfully).
2. In this litigious day and age why would you ever ride on the street without a brake? If you hit someone, whether or not it was your fault, you are looking to get sued.
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Old 08-01-07 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
I don't get riding a fixide on the street.
It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.
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Old 08-01-07 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeronimo_
They probably already told your mommy, even though you are probably older than they are. People who act knowledgeable on the internet crack me up. "I read somewhere..." (probably in some lame ragazine or written by some other 'net forum idiot) They need to just shut the hell up and ride.
You're just a regular old barrel of fun.

To the OP: Get some brake levers (yes, two, so you can get a flip flop hub) and two brakes to go with them. I agree with whoever said that they're practically worth it for the ability to ride on the brake hoods.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:17 PM
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To the OP: Get some brake levers (yes, two, so you can get a flip flop hub) and two brakes to go with them. I agree with whoever said that they're practically worth it for the ability to ride on the brake hoods.
I have to admit that I personally *never* used the freewheel on my flip-flop hub. But when I eventually sold that fixie on craigslist (had to reduce my stable to 3 bikes due to moving to a smaller place :'(), I think I got a lot more interest and a higher price because it had two brakes and a flip-flop hub.

I had a previous fixie with only one brake, and I liked the two-brake version a lot better because of the hoods AND because the feeling of braking the rear wheel on a fixie is weirdly cool.

Seems like the consensus on this thread is:
* Get the brake(s). You'll be glad you have 'em when you occasionally NEED them.
* Having brakes available won't hinder you in using a fixie to strengthen your legs and improve your cadence
* The only reason not to have brakes is for style.
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Old 08-02-07 | 12:36 AM
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I think a lot of people responding "get a brake" are making that recommendation based on the assumption that you are a relatively decent human being. Since none of us know you personally, that may not be valid. You could be a complete malignant schm*ck. In that case, I would pass on the whole front brake idea if I were you. First, your friends wouldn't think you were cool and second, being a Junior there is a very good chance that you haven't reproduced yet.

So to recap. If you are a decent person, get a front brake. If you are a malignant schm*ck, go without the front brake. Either way, go out and ride!
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Old 08-02-07 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
They're not man capri's, they're manpris.
And it's not a purse, it's a european carry all!
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Old 08-02-07 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeronimo_
For you, I'd wager that's 100% correct.
Race you around a corner any day, you fixed, me road bike.
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Old 08-02-07 | 11:01 AM
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.... and chics really dig scars
Right. Chics love guys that fall down a lot.
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Old 08-02-07 | 11:29 AM
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It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.
I paid $10 for my front brake. How much is your life worth?

Wait, that was a little dramatic. How about, How much would you pay to avoid pain?

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Old 08-02-07 | 11:46 AM
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It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.
Yeah, riding a fixed gear on the street actually DOES make sense, though only in relatively flat areas in my opinion:
* the bike is mechanically simple, and thus cheap and reliable (no worries about derailers, shifters, freewheels, etc.)
* a fixed gear provides EXCELLENT traction feedback on slippery surfaces. I find that I cannot ride my thin-tire road bike on snow at all, and slick pavement is very tricky, but can handle them well with a fixie.
* in city traffic, you can speed up and slow down very smoothly just with your knees, so you're not always braking and then struggling to get up to speed again. And you can trackstand at stop signs and stoplights with just a bit of traffic.
* it's a lot of fun for many people!
* it's good for training to improve your cadence

So riding fixed on the street can actually be very practical I feel. So not having gears may be worth it. But not having a brake is very foolish.
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Old 08-02-07 | 05:34 PM
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My housemate's boyfriend is a bike messenger in Seattle. He and his buddies have a name for inexperienced FG riders who insist on having no brake - "The Jokers". It's not meant to be a compliment.
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Old 08-02-07 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Az B
I paid $10 for my front brake. How much is your life worth?
If you read my posts I am clearly on the pro-brake side.
I was merely explaining why fixed gear bikes are popular with bicycle messengers.
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Old 08-02-07 | 07:05 PM
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Get a brake and you won't have to worry about losing your stop stick. And tuck in your shoelaces.
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Old 08-03-07 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by richmondracer
i just got my first fixie, a cayne uno and the only way my parents will let me ride it (i'm a junior in high school) is if i get a front brake installed. so my question is this: does it matter if it's there as long as i'm still using my feet to slow down and i don't use the break?
I'm building one and you should really have a front brake on the road. Having to be constantly vigilant takes all the fun out of fixed gear riding. In the velodrome, you dont need brakes because no one else can go faster than you and you can always slow the bike down to a stop. In the real world, that extra margin of safety doesn't exist. So yeah, put on a least a front brake on your bike. If you ride with with a flip flop hub and singlespeed on the other side, you'll need two brakes.
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Old 08-03-07 | 03:25 AM
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I've got a brake on my track bike, and two on the conversion I built. I can't think of any conceivable reason not to, other than looks. I love bare bars with no levers, but not enough to risk my stopping ability - I'd be riding around at 10 mph if I had not brakes. A cross-top lever or goldfinger gets close to the look without sacrificing the stopification.
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