Road Bikes for Commuting
#76
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Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Hilo Town, East Hawai'i
Bikes: 1994 Trek 820, 2004 Fuji Absolute, 2005 Jamis Nova, 1977 Schwinn Scrambler 36/36
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#77
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Newfield, NY
Nothing beats a road bike for speed and efficiency. I commute 26 mi. RT 5 days per week on a hilly ride both ways. My main ride is a titanium Mongoose branded (decals removed ;-) Sandvik frame, Ultegra drivetrain, Cane Creek wheels. On nice days I ride my '85 Paramount (it's heavier, but even faster...maybe that's psychological). I carry my clothes and lunch in a backpack.
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#80
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Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Washington DC
I'm finding that the Surly Cross Check is a great urban commuter. Tougher than most straight-ahead road bikes, so I don't worry about potholes or, for that matter, curbs; the drop bars are comfortable and let me get out of the wind when I need to; and the relatively short wheelbase makes it extremely agile in traffic. Steel frame feels supple without sacrificing much in efficiency.
I'd think about a cross bike if you're bombing around urban areas, though these vintage touring/road bikes are sounding pretty great...
I'd think about a cross bike if you're bombing around urban areas, though these vintage touring/road bikes are sounding pretty great...
#81
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Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
My touring bike is my primary commuter, but I use my 80's Bianchi road bike in the summer when the weather is nice and the sun comes up nice and early. For that kind of money, I'd prolly be looking for an older bike with touring geometry and then putting the money I save on the bike itself into upgrades and accessories.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
#82
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Joined: May 2002
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From: Near Portland, OR
Bikes: Three road bikes. Two track bikes.
If your budget is only $600, you might try looking for a NOS frame on eBay. I found a 90's era schwinn steel road bike frame and won the bidding at $50. With $20 for shipping, it came out, all told, to a $70 frame; I thought it was a steal, considering my other options were in the $200 range. If you shop selectively, or have parts lying around at home, you can make a pretty good quality bike out of $530.
But $600 is pretty restrictive for the road bike category. Most decent stuff will put you in the $1000-2000 range. You might want to have a look at the Raleigh catalogue. Raleigh is weighing in on the commuting market and has some cheap offerings. I got my Rush Hour fixed gear/single speed bike for $550 back a couple years ago. Besides all the "spiritual" benefits of fixed gear bikes, one practical benefit is that they are cheap! If you don't have a lot of hills in your area, seriously consider the fg/ss option.
But $600 is pretty restrictive for the road bike category. Most decent stuff will put you in the $1000-2000 range. You might want to have a look at the Raleigh catalogue. Raleigh is weighing in on the commuting market and has some cheap offerings. I got my Rush Hour fixed gear/single speed bike for $550 back a couple years ago. Besides all the "spiritual" benefits of fixed gear bikes, one practical benefit is that they are cheap! If you don't have a lot of hills in your area, seriously consider the fg/ss option.
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Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
#83
All Bikes All The Time
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Boise, ID
Bikes: Giant TCR 0, Lemond Zurich, Giant NRS 1, Jamis Explorer Beater/Commuter, Peugeot converted single speed
To me, it is just an uneccesary piece of equipment. I haven't had a kickstand for over 20 years and have not once thought to myself "I wish I had a kickstand". There is always something to lean it against. In the rare cases when there is not, I have no problem laying it down carefully on the non-drive side.
#84
Mirror slap survivor
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Sunny Florida
Bikes: Gunnar Sport, Surly Pacer, Access MTB, Ibex Corrida, one day a Simple City
If your budget is only $600, you might try looking for a NOS frame on eBay. I found a 90's era schwinn steel road bike frame and won the bidding at $50. With $20 for shipping, it came out, all told, to a $70 frame; I thought it was a steal, considering my other options were in the $200 range. If you shop selectively, or have parts lying around at home, you can make a pretty good quality bike out of $530.
But $600 is pretty restrictive for the road bike category. Most decent stuff will put you in the $1000-2000 range. You might want to have a look at the Raleigh catalogue. Raleigh is weighing in on the commuting market and has some cheap offerings. I got my Rush Hour fixed gear/single speed bike for $550 back a couple years ago. Besides all the "spiritual" benefits of fixed gear bikes, one practical benefit is that they are cheap! If you don't have a lot of hills in your area, seriously consider the fg/ss option.
But $600 is pretty restrictive for the road bike category. Most decent stuff will put you in the $1000-2000 range. You might want to have a look at the Raleigh catalogue. Raleigh is weighing in on the commuting market and has some cheap offerings. I got my Rush Hour fixed gear/single speed bike for $550 back a couple years ago. Besides all the "spiritual" benefits of fixed gear bikes, one practical benefit is that they are cheap! If you don't have a lot of hills in your area, seriously consider the fg/ss option.
https://www.raleighusa.com/items.asp?deptid=5&itemid=427
#85
I ride a 1987 Univega road bike on most dry days. This has little to do with distance (my commute is about a mile) and a lot more to do with balancing fun with carrying capacity and need for practicality. It's a dramatic contrast with my Long Haul Trucker, which is also fun, but rather tank-like. It works out because in my current school and living situation, I seldom need to carry anything on the bike itself, even though I don't personally own a car. The lack of rack and fender eyelets make it a bit less than practical, but this is also my recreational/training road bike, and hopefully soon to be my racing road bike. I'll be looking to use p-clips to put fenders on it this winter, which might extend my commuting use. Road bikes are addictive!
The real upshot with an older bike is the cost. I spent $150 on Craigslist for this bike, and I reckon I did well. Between tinkering and various upgrades, my current total investment is probably about $400; the new wheels I'm building plus some shifting upgrades will top things off at around $600 altogether. You can definitely purchase a newer vintage, good quality road bike in that range if you look around (the local used bike shop is selling a gorgeous late 90's Cannondale, in my size, natch, with full 105 for $600 - I covet it!), so you can do even better than I have. Besides, I figure that, in the hazy future, when I can afford a modern road bike of middling price, that my Univega will continue to be useful as a lightweight, light load go-fast commuting and traveling bike. And it will still be cheap!
The real upshot with an older bike is the cost. I spent $150 on Craigslist for this bike, and I reckon I did well. Between tinkering and various upgrades, my current total investment is probably about $400; the new wheels I'm building plus some shifting upgrades will top things off at around $600 altogether. You can definitely purchase a newer vintage, good quality road bike in that range if you look around (the local used bike shop is selling a gorgeous late 90's Cannondale, in my size, natch, with full 105 for $600 - I covet it!), so you can do even better than I have. Besides, I figure that, in the hazy future, when I can afford a modern road bike of middling price, that my Univega will continue to be useful as a lightweight, light load go-fast commuting and traveling bike. And it will still be cheap!
#86
53 miles per burrito


Joined: Sep 2001
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From: Dallas, TX
Bikes: Land Shark, Trek 1000, Iron Horse Rogue, Novara Randonee
Currently I commute on a Trek 1000. I use a Novara Commuter Pannier. My commute is just short of 15 miles each way.
#87
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Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Sacramento, CA
Bikes: '64 Bianchi CDM, '62ish Altenburger Cinelli Mod B, '63-64 Cinelli SC, 69 Rene Herse Competition, '71 Gitane SC, '73 Cinelli SC, '73-74 Colnago Super,, '73-74 Cinelli SC, '78ish counterfeit Confente, '82 Medici Gran Turismo, '67ish Mondia Speciale
I have a short, flat 7 mi. rt commute, so I have greater options than most. Dodging potholes and heavy traffic are my challenges. Mainly, it's the dense stop and start traffic that Chicago has to offer.
Currently, I use two bikes for my commute (5 days per wk.):
1) 1985 Merckx Corsa Extra, set up with Campy Ergo shifters. This is my sunny day commuter, and I love that the Ergo lets me keep both hands on the bars as I navigate traffic. This is my ride-fast back that I especially love to ride on the windy days here, as I feel like I can just slice through the wind.
2) 1986 Cilo set up with downtube friction shifters. I keep my SKS race blade fenders on this bike and ride it whenever there's a chance of rain or if I know that I'm running errands after work and will need to lock it up for more than a few minutes (the parking lot at work is fenced and guarded, so I don't worry about theft from work). I figure that Cilo is less known than Merckx, and it would just cost less to replace the Cilo if it were stolen. FWIW, I have about $400 in the CIlo and about $850 in the Merckx.
I'm currently overhauling a 1980 Windsor touring bike that will get outfitted with full fenders. I'll end up with about $400 in that as well.
No matter the bike, I carry my velcro attach Sigma flashing lights. My large messenger bag holds whatever I need to carry for the day and has enough room for a few groceries on the way home.
I used to have a Jamis Coda Sport flat bar road bike but sold it. Drop bars really do make a huge difference when it comes to riding in wind and putting you in a better position for really cranking.
So, you can see that my recommendation is to go for a good used road bike and use the leftover money to upgrade and buy accessories, such as good clothes. I'm already finding the benefits of good cycling jackets and gloves. Also, though I much prefer vintage steel in all other respects, I will say that modern brakes offer a huge improvement.
Best of luck to you. Commuting's really fantastic. It wakes me up on the way there and gets me home feeling relaxed and feeling like I've earned that after-work beer.
Currently, I use two bikes for my commute (5 days per wk.):
1) 1985 Merckx Corsa Extra, set up with Campy Ergo shifters. This is my sunny day commuter, and I love that the Ergo lets me keep both hands on the bars as I navigate traffic. This is my ride-fast back that I especially love to ride on the windy days here, as I feel like I can just slice through the wind.
2) 1986 Cilo set up with downtube friction shifters. I keep my SKS race blade fenders on this bike and ride it whenever there's a chance of rain or if I know that I'm running errands after work and will need to lock it up for more than a few minutes (the parking lot at work is fenced and guarded, so I don't worry about theft from work). I figure that Cilo is less known than Merckx, and it would just cost less to replace the Cilo if it were stolen. FWIW, I have about $400 in the CIlo and about $850 in the Merckx.
I'm currently overhauling a 1980 Windsor touring bike that will get outfitted with full fenders. I'll end up with about $400 in that as well.
No matter the bike, I carry my velcro attach Sigma flashing lights. My large messenger bag holds whatever I need to carry for the day and has enough room for a few groceries on the way home.
I used to have a Jamis Coda Sport flat bar road bike but sold it. Drop bars really do make a huge difference when it comes to riding in wind and putting you in a better position for really cranking.
So, you can see that my recommendation is to go for a good used road bike and use the leftover money to upgrade and buy accessories, such as good clothes. I'm already finding the benefits of good cycling jackets and gloves. Also, though I much prefer vintage steel in all other respects, I will say that modern brakes offer a huge improvement.
Best of luck to you. Commuting's really fantastic. It wakes me up on the way there and gets me home feeling relaxed and feeling like I've earned that after-work beer.
#88
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Joined: May 2007
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From: Raleigh, NC
Bikes: Waterford RST-22, Bob Jackson World Tour, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Soma Saga, De Bernardi SL, Specialized Sequoia
If your budget is $600, then I would start searching for used bikes/frames on eBay, Craigslist and other on-line sources. Make sure you know what size you need. If you want eyelets for racks and fenders, I would search eBay for touring bikes, as well as various Japanese and American brands that made touring/sport touring frames back in the 1980s. Some good brands to follow include Miyata, Nishiki, Panasonic, Fugi, Shogun, Centurion, as well as some of the older Trek and Specialized steel frames.
If you can increase your budget a little, or have some parts that could be fitted to a decent frame, I would look at some new frames such as Surly Long Haul Trucker, Soma Smoothie and ES, Salsa Casseroll, Kona touring model (don't remember the name), Rivendell Bleriot. All of these frames are reasonably priced and have eyelets for racks and fenders.
If you can increase your budget a little, or have some parts that could be fitted to a decent frame, I would look at some new frames such as Surly Long Haul Trucker, Soma Smoothie and ES, Salsa Casseroll, Kona touring model (don't remember the name), Rivendell Bleriot. All of these frames are reasonably priced and have eyelets for racks and fenders.
#89
With my $600, I opted for the Trek 7.3 FX flat bar road bike ($529.) Rode it home yesterday (about 15 miles.) I felt the riding position was more comfortable than my old out-of-commission Trek 1200 road bike, but more aggressive and responsive than I would have expected from a flat bar bike. Except for catching too much air, I was very happy with the performance, considering I was carrying a load on the rack and the bike is heavier than most road bikes.
The flat bars were a compromise for value, but they were actually quite nice for my commute home. Shifts very nicely (Shimano rapid fire,) 48/38/28 triple and 11-32 cassette. Plenty of gear range, probably more than necessary except for heavy loads/extreme fatigue. Tires 700x32c. Glossy black.
This is a great utility bike for me. Thanks for everyone's input, I love reading about other's bikes and experience. (Of course, you all know there will always be more bikes!
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The flat bars were a compromise for value, but they were actually quite nice for my commute home. Shifts very nicely (Shimano rapid fire,) 48/38/28 triple and 11-32 cassette. Plenty of gear range, probably more than necessary except for heavy loads/extreme fatigue. Tires 700x32c. Glossy black.
This is a great utility bike for me. Thanks for everyone's input, I love reading about other's bikes and experience. (Of course, you all know there will always be more bikes!
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#90
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Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Friendsville, TN, USA
Bikes: Wilier Thor, Fuji Professional, LeMond Wayzata
Here's a question. I rode my Wilier Thor commuting yesterday. Had too much stuff in my messenger bag on the way home. Bike really didn't like it. More sensitive than I expected. I've also got too much drop to really use a messenger bag. So I think that one's out.
But I have Fuji Pro AL/Carbon Veloce 10 spd compact cranks that I rode in this morning. I tried a rear seatpost rack on it. Doesn't like weight in the rear. But I load the handlebar bag and it doesn't mind. Anyone try a lowrider front rack on something about like this? I'd have to fudge the mounting, but I think I could do that. Has a Kinesis carbon fork. I don't see any problem if I run the weight to the dropout & brake mounting. I'm mainly dealing with winter clothes bulk. Cold in the morning, warmer in the PM, so I have my morning clothes to take home. The laptop does well in the messenger bag, but not bulk stuff.
Make sense, or am I likely to find a modern racy road bike just a bit difficult. I'm commuting on vacant hilly country roads. At least for now.
But I have Fuji Pro AL/Carbon Veloce 10 spd compact cranks that I rode in this morning. I tried a rear seatpost rack on it. Doesn't like weight in the rear. But I load the handlebar bag and it doesn't mind. Anyone try a lowrider front rack on something about like this? I'd have to fudge the mounting, but I think I could do that. Has a Kinesis carbon fork. I don't see any problem if I run the weight to the dropout & brake mounting. I'm mainly dealing with winter clothes bulk. Cold in the morning, warmer in the PM, so I have my morning clothes to take home. The laptop does well in the messenger bag, but not bulk stuff.
Make sense, or am I likely to find a modern racy road bike just a bit difficult. I'm commuting on vacant hilly country roads. At least for now.
#91
Prefers Cicero

Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1984 Trek 520; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
Re kickstands...they rattle, which is another annoyance.
Unfortunately, both at home and work, the only walls available to lean the bike against are brick or stone, so the sides of my old leather covered seat are a bit scuffed from that.
Unfortunately, both at home and work, the only walls available to lean the bike against are brick or stone, so the sides of my old leather covered seat are a bit scuffed from that.
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#92
I ride my 2007 Trek 1000 18 miles round trip on a hilly country road. I don't carry what I can't fit in my shirt or jacket pockets and under seat bag. I keep a drawer full of clothes in an empty desk at work and trade them in and out on rainy days. It's not very hot in Northern Maine that often so I can just change in the bathroom.
#93
Dang, I rode home for the second time on my new Trek.
Accelerates great, swift, clean shifing, even with a load. Balance and feel, superb. Straight as an arrow, beautiful to ride.
I feel guilty riding a bike that is so easy to ride!
Accelerates great, swift, clean shifing, even with a load. Balance and feel, superb. Straight as an arrow, beautiful to ride.
I feel guilty riding a bike that is so easy to ride!
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#94
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,508
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From: San Diego
Bikes: LOOK KG 461, LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er 0
I actually sold my mtb last summer and don't miss it at all. Who has time to pack your bike up on the car, drive an hour to someplace where you can ride it off road, then spend a couple hours riding, only to drive an hour back home. Not me...By by worthless hunk of metal. Hello road bikes!!!
#95
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From: San Diego
Bikes: LOOK KG 461, LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er 0
That adds character. I love an old worn looking saddle quite frankly. Both of my Arione saddles are starting to get that look and I love it. I've got a couple thousand miles on them.
#98
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.

Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Washington, DC
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#99
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From: Gaseous Cloud around Uranus
I ride a 1978 Shogun touring bike.Bought it new and commute to work everyday since.No fenders,front and rear racks,down tube water bottles(stops the water when wet)diy halogen lights.Used to ride 36 miles rt,5 days a week.Sold my business a few years back and now I only ride about 10 miles rt.Iv'e only had a computer on it the last couple years so I don't know the real mileage but it must have close to 200,000 miles on it.I ride about 5-8000 miles a year the last couple years and I rode ALOT more than then that before I got the computer(and got old).
Lugged,triple butted CroMo frame and fork,27x1 tires.21 speed,SR triple crank(46-36-26),the rest is all Shimano w/Araya rims,with double butted spokes.Still the same way I bought it except for a different seat and Shimano aero brake levers and the normal stuff.Been a great bike,if they still made them I would buy another.Cost was $650 in 1978,alot for a bike in those days,and worth every penny.
Ride the same bike to San Fran and back every year for the last 20 years.Been to Denver and back(live in L.A.)and all over Hell and Creation and has never let me down.I like CroMo frames myself,strong,forgiving,last forever and soaks up bumps well.
Lugged,triple butted CroMo frame and fork,27x1 tires.21 speed,SR triple crank(46-36-26),the rest is all Shimano w/Araya rims,with double butted spokes.Still the same way I bought it except for a different seat and Shimano aero brake levers and the normal stuff.Been a great bike,if they still made them I would buy another.Cost was $650 in 1978,alot for a bike in those days,and worth every penny.
Ride the same bike to San Fran and back every year for the last 20 years.Been to Denver and back(live in L.A.)and all over Hell and Creation and has never let me down.I like CroMo frames myself,strong,forgiving,last forever and soaks up bumps well.
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I ride a 1978 Shogun touring bike.Bought it new and commute to work everyday since.No fenders,front and rear racks,down tube water bottles(stops the water when wet)diy halogen lights.Used to ride 36 miles rt,5 days a week.Sold my business a few years back and now I only ride about 10 miles rt.Iv'e only had a computer on it the last couple years so I don't know the real mileage but it must have close to 200,000 miles on it.I ride about 5-8000 miles a year the last couple years and I rode ALOT more than then that before I got the computer(and got old).
Lugged,triple butted CroMo frame and fork,27x1 tires.21 speed,SR triple crank(46-36-26),the rest is all Shimano w/Araya rims,with double butted spokes.Still the same way I bought it except for a different seat and Shimano aero brake levers and the normal stuff.Been a great bike,if they still made them I would buy another.Cost was $650 in 1978,alot for a bike in those days,and worth every penny.
Ride the same bike to San Fran and back every year for the last 20 years.Been to Denver and back(live in L.A.)and all over Hell and Creation and has never let me down.I like CroMo frames myself,strong,forgiving,last forever and soaks up bumps well.
Lugged,triple butted CroMo frame and fork,27x1 tires.21 speed,SR triple crank(46-36-26),the rest is all Shimano w/Araya rims,with double butted spokes.Still the same way I bought it except for a different seat and Shimano aero brake levers and the normal stuff.Been a great bike,if they still made them I would buy another.Cost was $650 in 1978,alot for a bike in those days,and worth every penny.
Ride the same bike to San Fran and back every year for the last 20 years.Been to Denver and back(live in L.A.)and all over Hell and Creation and has never let me down.I like CroMo frames myself,strong,forgiving,last forever and soaks up bumps well.




