Policeman ordered me to get off the highway today
12-07-07, 10:06 AM
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In a generic sense, I would guess "highway" could actually mean any road, but when people talk about "driving on the highway", I'd guess they meant something like an Interstate (a big 6 lane road with no at-grade entry).
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/highway
Legally, it probably varies from state to state e.g. Washington says this:
https://www.atg.wa.gov/opinion.aspx?s...rchive&id=7526
Public highway vs. restricted access highway vs. highway...
1. a main road, esp. one between towns or cities: the highway between Los Angeles and Seattle.
2. any public road or waterway.
3. any main or ordinary route, track, or course.
2. any public road or waterway.
3. any main or ordinary route, track, or course.
Legally, it probably varies from state to state e.g. Washington says this:
HIGHWAYS ‑- MOTOR VEHICLE LAWS ‑- PUBLIC HIGHWAY ‑- DEFINITION.
The term "public highway" as used in the state motor vehicle code (Title 46 RCW) means any place, way, street, etc., where people are accustomed to congregate in automobiles in numbers sufficient to constitute a use by the public.
The term "public highway" as used in the state motor vehicle code (Title 46 RCW) means any place, way, street, etc., where people are accustomed to congregate in automobiles in numbers sufficient to constitute a use by the public.
Public highway vs. restricted access highway vs. highway...
12-07-07, 10:22 AM
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The family and I just rolled through there on Tuesday on our way from Mammoth Caves to Atlanta. Small world. HAPPY to be back in the warm(er) South. We were in Clinton/Terre Haute, IN and it was just me, myself and I out there in the cold, wet and wind.
12-07-07, 10:24 AM
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In AZ the legal definition of highway is:
"1. "Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained by the federal government, the department, a city, a town or a county if any part of the way is generally open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel."
Also of interest:
"28. "Traffic" means pedestrians, ridden or herded animals, vehicles and other conveyances either singly or together while using a highway for purposes of travel."
All rural Freeways (with exception of I-10 between Phoenix and Tuscon) are open to bicycles for shoulder use only in AZ. Most urban Freeways are closed to bicycles, details here:
https://www.azbikeclub.com/interst.html
Al
"1. "Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained by the federal government, the department, a city, a town or a county if any part of the way is generally open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel."
Also of interest:
"28. "Traffic" means pedestrians, ridden or herded animals, vehicles and other conveyances either singly or together while using a highway for purposes of travel."
All rural Freeways (with exception of I-10 between Phoenix and Tuscon) are open to bicycles for shoulder use only in AZ. Most urban Freeways are closed to bicycles, details here:
https://www.azbikeclub.com/interst.html
Al
12-07-07, 11:48 AM
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What I find most annoying about this ordeal is that when the weather turns really bad, I use the main roads in lieu of my normal backroad route to work. The main roads generally have been plowed or salted or at least have had more traffic to clear the snow/ice. Note that I'm cycling in the traffic lanes and not on the shoulder to enjoy these benefits. My backroad route is also full of many short but steep hills and I feel much safer on the gentle slopes of the main roads in the snow than on the backroads. Oddly enough, while I've been bothered by the police for cycling on the main roads in good weather, they have never bothered me in the bad weather.
I've encountered plenty of plows and salt trucks on both routes and on the main roads, it's a lot easier to move over so they can continue their work than it is on the narrow backroads. I think this cop needs to find better things to do.
I've encountered plenty of plows and salt trucks on both routes and on the main roads, it's a lot easier to move over so they can continue their work than it is on the narrow backroads. I think this cop needs to find better things to do.
12-07-07, 04:38 PM
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In Indiana, bikes are legal vehicles and only prohibited from interstates and highways with posted prohibitions. I'm not aware of any in central Indiana.
I took up cycling as an adult during the 8 years I lived in Bloomington/Monroe County, just to the east of Ellettsville, and have been on roads around Ellettsville in Owen and Green counties, for several Hilly Hundreds, and agree that there are no reasonable "alternate routes" to the main roads, for the most part.
I took up cycling as an adult during the 8 years I lived in Bloomington/Monroe County, just to the east of Ellettsville, and have been on roads around Ellettsville in Owen and Green counties, for several Hilly Hundreds, and agree that there are no reasonable "alternate routes" to the main roads, for the most part.
12-07-07, 05:19 PM
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Sorry, my memory was bad. I checked the map and I see that I only went through about a quarter of Spencer (took 46 W to 67 N). Apart from the town, I can't think of anything that could be considered a side road. The in laws have a reunion every few years at McCormicks Creek. I was thinking of riding to the next one.
Anyway, you got it right. Around here, the roads more or less conform to either county lines or the topography. Our roads fit together like a mess of tangled yarn. For the Owen/Monroe/Green county area, the only viable, everyday routes are along highways. Otherwise you get killed with hills and unpredictable traffic.
