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Old 02-16-08 | 08:31 PM
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Mine is dead. I miss it. Might get another. I used it on Bikecentennial in 1976, on a ride down the Blue Ridge Parkway. Commuting. Lots of other tours. At the time it was the only thing that would keep me dry. And it would keep me very dry. Had to watch for traffic and gusts. Usually I'd just use the cape and my feet would stay dry enough for short journeys. Somewhat longer and I'd put my feet in plastic bags and then put a bag over my shoes with rubber bands. The next step was some waterproof chaps. No idea if they exist any more. I'd stay very very dry in most conditions. More than I can say for my gear!

Tailwinds were great.

Headwinds were slow.

Gusty strong winds took great care.

Close passing trucks were the most dangerous.

Never tried mine on a short coupled racing type bike that I can remember. Even the "racing" bikes of the day weren't all that racy by today's standards. On the other hand, the roads weren't all that hot, either! I generally toured on classic (by today's standards) British touring bicycles. Jackson, Metcalfe, Kitching, etc. Whatever the flavor of the year!
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Old 02-16-08 | 09:18 PM
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Old 02-16-08 | 11:01 PM
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I use my rain cape in the summer to keep the stinging rain off me. I know I will get wet, but I know I will sweat if it is summer anyway. In the winter I use a rain suit.
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Old 02-16-08 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KingTermite
Additionally, there was some discussion on rain capes in this thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ight=cape+rain
That was my thread, thanks. As I said there, I couldn't see the point of the hood for the Campmor cape - I think it would restrict head movement and visibility. I have a cover over my helmet instead. I couldn't find a Carradice Cape supplier in North America. So I got the J&G.

The advantage of the rain cape is you sweat less than in rain pants and a jacket. You have to have fenders.

My commute is urban and somewhat sheltered, and I'm heavy, so I haven't been blown off the road, but I would worry about that if you are going to ride out in the open country or if you are a real waif.

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Old 02-17-08 | 02:39 PM
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Old 02-17-08 | 07:58 PM
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I've posted about my Carradice cape elsewhere on Bike Forums. I use it more in warmer weather, preferring a jacket in cold weather. For short hops, the cape and rainpants are fine. For longer, the pants are too hot, and I use spats. I use other spats, as the Carradice spats were too frustrating; the zipper is microscopic, and it didn't stay closed. This was LOTS of fun when attempting to get the spats on in the dark when raining. So...the cape gives increased airflow, some form of lower protection is suggested, and fenders are a MUST.
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Old 02-17-08 | 08:10 PM
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Strong preference for jacket and pants. I tried a poncho for a while after seeing them in widespread use in Vietnam, but I think it is far inferior in general.

Poncho pros:
- Quick to get on and off
- Cooler

Poncho cons:
- Dosen't keep legs dry
- Still get wet from road spray (even with good mudguards) at anything over 15km/h or so
- Flaps around in the wind
- Loose ends can get caught on seat if elasticated, or can fall away towards wheel (never got it caught in the wheel)

Fine for short tropical downpours when cycling at walking speeds amongst many other cyclists. No good at all for commuting at speed in city traffic.
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Old 02-23-08 | 03:06 PM
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I've posted about my Carradice cape elsewhere on Bike Forums... I use other spats, as the Carradice spats were too frustrating.
What other spats are there?

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Old 02-23-08 | 03:42 PM
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I have the J&G cape (one of the Oregon companies) and it appears to be nicely made. I've only used it once...mainly just to try it out since it wasn't actually a downpour (just a heavy drizzle). For my commute the aerodynamics thing isn't a big issue. I do have a big uphill climb on the way home, so it was nice to have the ventilation. I can tell it will be cooler than a rain jacket when the weather warms up.

I have only two concerns about the bicycle cape/poncho: One is that my lets got a little wet after wind sort of created a funnel at the front of the cape that made the water run right down between my legs. Maybe I just need to experiment with it a bit more though. There is a cinch in the back that I might just need to tighten up to make the front more taut. The second concern is that in the event of a crash the handlebars might get caught up in the cape or the cape's straps that go around your wrist... potentially making the crash worse. I think it's kind of a remote fear, but a possibility I thought about when the cape got a little tangled around the bars. On the flip-side a bright yellow cape certainly attracts attention... even more attention than a bright yellow jacket. So that's kind of nice when it comes to commutes in rainy and foggy weather.

You certainly have more freedom of movement with a rain jacket and pants, but I think I will enjoy the cape more in the Summer. Rain jackets and pants get really sweaty in warmer weather, and I think that is why I wanted to give the cape a try. Also it rolls up and packs small so you can keep it in your bag for those unexpected downpours. For winter commutes I will probably continue to wear my jacket since it provides warmth as well as rain protection.

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Old 02-23-08 | 04:15 PM
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Softshell jacket (that actually has a hood). Once I went that route nothing can compare.
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Old 02-23-08 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cave
Strong preference for jacket and pants. I tried a poncho for a while after seeing them in widespread use in Vietnam, but I think it is far inferior in general.
On the other hand, I am in strong favor of a cape and might add comments.

Originally Posted by Cave
Poncho pros:
- Quick to get on and off
- Cooler
- Keeps your hands and handlebars dry as well.
- Protects any equipment you might have on handlebars.
- Can be put just as well over thin and thick layers of clothing including formal jacket, overcoat etc.

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Poncho cons:
- Dosen't keep legs dry
- Still get wet from road spray (even with good mudguards) at anything over 15km/h or so
- Flaps around in the wind
- Loose ends can get caught on seat if elasticated, or can fall away towards wheel (never got it caught in the wheel)
Issue of legs comes up only in strong rain with strong wind and can be largely taken care of with spats.

The most effective way of keeping ends under control is to sit on the cape.

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Fine for short tropical downpours when cycling at walking speeds amongst many other cyclists. No good at all for commuting at speed in city traffic.
In my experience, great for commuting in general.
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Old 02-23-08 | 09:02 PM
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This is another instance where once again I choose vanity over function. The poncho and rain cape are great, but I would prefer not to be seen in them. I like using my rain jacket because its slips on and off without fuss and looks good to boot.
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Old 02-23-08 | 10:21 PM
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Fox Fluid rain jacket stays in my trunk.l Works great for me. https://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Jackets/product_84381.shtml
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Old 02-25-08 | 09:16 AM
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That was my thread, thanks. As I said there, I couldn't see the point of the hood for the Campmor cape - I think it would restrict head movement and visibility. I have a cover over my helmet instead. I couldn't find a Carradice Cape supplier in North America. So I got the J&G.
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I can see your point but the Campmor rain cape with hood works for me. I wear it under my helmet. I can move my head fine and I don't have to snap on my helmet rain cover. Visibility is good.
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Old 02-25-08 | 06:46 PM
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I used to use a rain suit, for years. Now that I have tried a cape, I will never go back. Yes, the wind is a problem, but I tend to wimp out at really windy days anyway. I just use the cheap 50 cent variety I get at the dollar store: folds small, easy to carry when I don't know if i will need it, and keeps me from sweating a puddle. and if it gets torn or lost, or I give it away to some wet homeless person, no great loss.
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Old 02-25-08 | 10:31 PM
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I'd want some kind of cape that could be hooked down. I bought a cheapo non-bike specific rain cape once thinking it would be handy to keep stowed in my pannier. It billowed like a huge sail in the wind, and made it impossible to shoulder check when changing lanes without pulling the cape down.
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Old 02-26-08 | 04:19 AM
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I'd want some kind of cape that could be hooked down. I bought a cheapo non-bike specific rain cape once thinking it would be handy to keep stowed in my pannier. It billowed like a huge sail in the wind, and made it impossible to shoulder check when changing lanes without pulling the cape down.
I know both the Carrdice and the Campmor have hand loops and a seat loop on them, to help hold them down.

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Old 02-26-08 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
I know both the Carrdice and the Campmor have hand loops and a seat loop on them, to help hold them down.

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The J&G cape has a waist strap that holds the back of the cap against your lower back, but I find the thumb loops have too much slack, and in wind or brisk riding, the front of the cape does two unfortunate things: it forms a pocket between your arms that funnels rain down onto the top tube, and it lifts off your hands leaving them exposed.

My temporary solution (that works reasonably well on my flat bar bike, but not so well on drop bars) is to pinch a bit of the front hem under my pinky and ring fingers as I'm gripping the handlebars, leaving my middle and index fingers free for the brakes. That still means my gloves get a bit wet. I'm planning to try to rejig the thumb loops to somehow make them work better, but I haven't figured that out yet.
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Old 02-26-08 | 09:21 AM
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The J&G cape has a waist strap that holds the back of the cap against your lower back, but I find the thumb loops have too much slack, and in wind or brisk riding, the front of the cape does two unfortunate things: it forms a pocket between your arms that funnels rain down onto the top tube, and it lifts off your hands leaving them exposed.
I have the same frustration with the J&G cape. I don't know if all capes have the same problem (sounds like some might be elasticized in the front) or maybe it's because the material is so light it is easily blown around. I haven't tried really cinching up the back, which might reduce some of the slack in the front. And yes... the front loops do seem to have too much slack. I'm going to get a couple of pinch stops from REI. I'm not sure what they are really called, but most rain jackets use them on straps that you need to cinch up or loosen frequently. Those should help with the slack on the straps. Maybe an elastic panel for the front as well.

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Old 02-26-08 | 09:41 AM
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You could try tying a knot in the loop to make it smaller. It helped on my J&G rain cape.
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Old 02-26-08 | 10:14 AM
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I had the brilliant idea of fastening a hula hoop in the hem of the cape to keep it spread out, but I was afraid that would look too dorky even for me.
OMG! The mental image!!

It would be truly complete if your rain cape was red and white striped...
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Old 02-26-08 | 10:29 AM
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You could try tying a knot in the loop to make it smaller. It helped on my J&G rain cape.
That was my first thought, but then I figured some cheap pinch stops would allow me to quickly tighten and loosen the straps, making them a bit easier to manage. I just recalled I have some of those on a jacket. I never use them on the jacket, so I think I'll transfer them over to the cape.

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I tried out my J&G cape (the first of the Oregon companies mentioned above) but with mixed results. It's nice and light and not too sail-like, but there's no good way of keeping the cape draped over the front handlebars except clutching it with your fingers (there are loops for you thumbs but they're so loose that they don't keep the cape anywhere near the handlebars. Part of the problem may be the one-size fits all philosophy; I'm tall, and there just doesn't seem to be much material up front.

On the upside the material is light and clothlike; I've been carting it around in my bike bag all year in case of downpour. And the helmet cover works great. I think there may be ways of making it work, like tightening up the thumb loops or adding velcro loops to the front hem, to go around the handlebars.
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Old 05-17-08 | 06:04 AM
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I'd hardly say I'm concerned about aerodynamics when commuting, but with that thing you might as well fly a kite behind your bike. cheap waterproof pants are much easier to deal with.

And waterproof pants are like riding in a plastic bag. The rain cape, combined with fenders, keeps one dry and cool.

The next best thing to a rain cape is a good jacket and a pair of Rainlegs. Rainlegs protect the parts of the legs which are exposed to rain but don't cover the hamstrings and butt, so you have ventilation.

I hate rain pants. Seriously. They feel like the sauna suits wrestlers wear while exercising to make weight.
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Old 05-17-08 | 06:35 AM
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I've done a search on this forum but I've only found a few people mention these. What do you think of a cape like the one below for bicycling in rain?

Campmor Rain Cape

Is it better than rain jacket and pants? More convenient? Does it keep you dry? How much is splash from below a problem? Any other thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.
I really like rain capes - ponchos. The best I have ever had were the ones I bought in China that are used for moped riding. They are heavy-duty and have a clear panel in front so that your light can shine through it (the cape/poncho goes over the front of your handlbars. I will try to post a pic sometime.

The longer the cape is better.

I have seen some capes that have loops for the hands and feet. I am not sure how needed it is for feet, but it would be beneficial for the hands (like the Campmore model), although I have never been lucky enough to have this style. I even went so far as to contact my friends in England where I thought they would have them for sure after seeing all those fellows in the movies riding around with capes and bowler hats.... but "not anymore"

Capes keep you cool and dry. My problem with rain suits and jackets is that I got soaked from my own vapors that got trapped inside the suit. Yup, Gortex too. Capes/ponchos don't have that problem.

If you want to stay really dry and clean, then I recommend using legging gators with your cape/poncho and you will be in for a nice ride despite the rain.
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