Listen to this genius
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Did he really suggest that there are people living on other planets? Maybe he thinks we can just move on after we trash this one.
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I wonder how much of a reduction in CO2 would happen if he just shut the $@%! up.
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well, I can live with the heat... but I'd rather not live with wasteful people like that.
Can't live with a change in lifestyle to save something? well, you'd be forced to change it if you keep that up :-/
Can't live with a change in lifestyle to save something? well, you'd be forced to change it if you keep that up :-/
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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What an utter idiot.
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This is not the first American I've seen poo-pooing the idea that Americans should cycle - just laughing it off because it's so impossible to imagine.
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It's attitudes like this that prove Americans are neither ready nor willing to make the necessary changes that will have the greatest impact in controlling a) climate change, b) energy independence, c) energy conservation, d) reducing carbon emissions, take your pick. Americans would rather do the smaller, easier things that have less of an impact, like changing a light bulb. Even then, not every one is jumping on the "let's change to CFLs" bandwagon. Gas prices topping $3.25/gal.? No problem. What is really needed is a major change in attitude on the crisis-level scale of things. Last time something that big of a change in attitude took place was in the early 1970s with the rise in gas prices. Now that's not even enough. What will it take? Something on the scale of World War II, where everyone pitched in to conserve not only gas, but food, rubber, paper and metals? Hate to be the one to say it, but I think that's minimum level of urgency needed to get the sheeple to wake up and start doing something meaningful.
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I wouldn't equate glen beck with the average american. That would be insulting to the average american. 
Unfortunately, his attitudes are commonplace.
I could care less about the price of gas as it pertains to filling up my van. What I care about is the jump in grocery prices. I need my food dang it.
Conservation would be wonderful but when was the last time the government asked the American people to give up anything? Screw our sense of entitlement and freaking do something.

Unfortunately, his attitudes are commonplace.
I could care less about the price of gas as it pertains to filling up my van. What I care about is the jump in grocery prices. I need my food dang it.
Conservation would be wonderful but when was the last time the government asked the American people to give up anything? Screw our sense of entitlement and freaking do something.
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I've listened to these rants before, it's pretty annoying: "What, you want me to do something? No, I deny there is a problem."
This guy is just agreeing with them on national television in order to make money. I can do it too, watch: Taxes are unnecessary, the dollar isn't falling, the economy is fine, your house is worth $200k, and kids are worse than they were when you were a kid.
Oh, I forgot one: 25mpg highway is good gas mileage. You need an SUV because it snows in the winter.
This guy is just agreeing with them on national television in order to make money. I can do it too, watch: Taxes are unnecessary, the dollar isn't falling, the economy is fine, your house is worth $200k, and kids are worse than they were when you were a kid.
Oh, I forgot one: 25mpg highway is good gas mileage. You need an SUV because it snows in the winter.
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Well, the USA is headed into a deep recession. No-one seems to be changing right now, but we just hit $110 gal/barrel. It is going to go way higher as India and China's economies increase, and the dollar falls. At least 1/2 of the vehicles I see passing me on my bike commute are full size pickup trucks, and ginormous SUV's with one person (on their cell phone). I only wish gas gets to $7 a gallon as it is in Europe, only then will the people of the US get out of their inefficient vehicles and drive things that make sense. I'm not saying everyone has to ride a bike (but that would be nice), but it seems that the people that are screaming about the $3.25 per/gal, are the ones with the trucks, and aren't on the highest end of the socioeconomic scale.
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We have such a myth of (material) progress in America. Things are always going to get better, and we need never sacrifice our way of life for anything. (The president says so.)
I agree that entitlement is a key word here. According to Mr. Beck, we are entitled to take our American pilgrimage to Disney World. We are entitled to travel overseas whenever we want, as long as we can afford a ticket. No doubt we are entitled to cheap gas, too. Blah, blah, blah...
I agree that entitlement is a key word here. According to Mr. Beck, we are entitled to take our American pilgrimage to Disney World. We are entitled to travel overseas whenever we want, as long as we can afford a ticket. No doubt we are entitled to cheap gas, too. Blah, blah, blah...
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In many parts of the world people move to be closer to their work so that they can walk, bus or bicycle over a reasonable distance. The "Suburbs America" mentality doesn't allow for such thinking.
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sucks when jobs are disposable, though, especially in households of more than one person. how can you move every time you have to get a new job? what if your partner works 20 miles away? there arent any jobs for me here and i can't afford to move near the job i do have. believe me, if it were realistic, i'd do it in a heartbeat. the infrastructure isn't there. that has to be addressed.
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China's not reducing CO2, why should we? It's not fair! I couldn't POSSIBLY give up my tri-annual visit to Disneyland with a stopover in London! What do you think I am, a Somalian? Bicycling?? Since the only known cyclist on this planet, not sure about the others, is Lance Armstrong, I couldn't fathom that option... not even on a tricycle! As for a shift to more public transport?!? That would mean sharing a vehicle with other people, and giving up my roomy people mover! *pulls smug grin*
China's not reducing CO2, why should we? It's not fair! I couldn't POSSIBLY give up my tri-annual visit to Disneyland with a stopover in London! What do you think I am, a Somalian? Bicycling?? Since the only known cyclist on this planet, not sure about the others, is Lance Armstrong, I couldn't fathom that option... not even on a tricycle! As for a shift to more public transport?!? That would mean sharing a vehicle with other people, and giving up my roomy people mover! *pulls smug grin*
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Yeah, the guy has a regular show on CNN - it reportedly has rather poor ratings. He has demonstrated in the past that he is a global climate change denier, and I am sure that if he had heard of Peak Oil, he would deny that as well.
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Im a car free global warming denier.
Regardless thats not really the point here. See that guys double chin? Anyone who has never bicycled for transportation thinks it is impossible or that it would be really difficult etc.
Anyone who really tries it will soon feel it is superior to car travel and wondered why in the hell anyone drives.
The real question is how do we get people from point A in this discussion to point B? I think that recreation riding is probably the first step. Put Glen Beck on a nice paved trail somewhere and get him riding. After a few thousand miles he might try commuting to work once. After a couple years he may be the biggest conservationist around. Its funny how the bicycle can change people.
Regardless thats not really the point here. See that guys double chin? Anyone who has never bicycled for transportation thinks it is impossible or that it would be really difficult etc.
Anyone who really tries it will soon feel it is superior to car travel and wondered why in the hell anyone drives.
The real question is how do we get people from point A in this discussion to point B? I think that recreation riding is probably the first step. Put Glen Beck on a nice paved trail somewhere and get him riding. After a few thousand miles he might try commuting to work once. After a couple years he may be the biggest conservationist around. Its funny how the bicycle can change people.
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I miss the old CNN/Headline News, when you could get a quick-shot of news 24/7. Between Glen and Grace, I just don't watch it anymore.
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