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Old 04-14-08, 08:22 AM
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Haha, I so feel your pain: https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=407372

i try to stay away from RS myself unless it's an emergency, they always try to sell you a cellphone contract when all you look for is a pair of AA batteries
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Once I stopped off at a liquor store on the way home to pick up a bottle of wine for dinner. It looked like there was plenty of room inside the store, so I brought my bike in. The manager started to tell me I couldn't leave my bike there. I hadn't seen anywhere outside to lock up, so I asked him if he knew where I could? No, he said, just leave it there, as he pointed to an empty area right inside the front door. I suspect he was nicer to me than he needed to be; I was about to give him some attitude before he turned out to be a nice guy, but luckily I never quite did.

Now, I usually ask in most places.
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Originally Posted by ChipSeal
I always take my bike in with me. Occasionally someone objects. I cease to be their customer.

To those who object, the conversation goes like this:


You can't bring your bike in here!

Why not?

It's not allowed!

Could you point me to the bike rack please?

There is no bike rack here.

I turn away into the store with my bike and begin shopping.

You have to take your bike outside!

If there is no place to lock my bike I am keeping it with me. Where are your batteries please?

Look, you have to remove the bike from the store! We cannot sell you anything until that happens.

Gee! What a great business you have! You are doing so well, you can turn paying customers away! Say, what other things can't paying customers bring into your store? Is there a list somewhere? Can I see it?

There's no list.

So you admit you just made up the rule that bicycles aren't allowed! Maybe it's racial discrimination!

I'm telling you, we do not allow bicycles in the store!

Could you make a list for me of all the things paying customers are not allowed to bring into your store so that I can be sure not to bring them with me inadvertently next time?

Get out of my store!

Basically I just make a scene and try to waste as much of the clerks time as can. It is fun to see how long I can make it last.
Wow, you sound like a total jerk with no respect for others. Where did your sense of entitlement come from?
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I bring my bike into antique china stores without asking first. If anyone gives me lip, I've got a catechism of questions ready to show them that my bike is their problem. They'd better grovel, because I'm a paying customer.


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Originally Posted by neilfein
Once I stopped off at a liquor store on the way home to pick up a bottle of wine for dinner. It looked like there was plenty of room inside the store, so I brought my bike in. The manager started to tell me I couldn't leave my bike there. I hadn't seen anywhere outside to lock up, so I asked him if he knew where I could? No, he said, just leave it there, as he pointed to an empty area right inside the front door. I suspect he was nicer to me than he needed to be; I was about to give him some attitude before he turned out to be a nice guy, but luckily I never quite did.

Now, I usually ask in most places.
The state store up the street from my old apartment has a bike rack right next to the front door. Even the beer/wine specialty shops have racks in front or nearby. I thought it was funny to listen to the disparaging comments people would mumble under their breath when I was putting a bottle of booze into the rack trunk on my bike.
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I keep a lock on all of my utility bikes. They have custom combinations, so I don't have to remember three different combos.

On my commuting bike, I don't carry a lock, (I get to park it by my desk) and I rarely make any stops. However, when I do have to stop at a store, I always ask permission to leave my bike near the door. I've never been told it was not allowed. This includes grocers, pharmacies, hardware stores and Radio Shack.

Manners and courtesy are usually paid back with convenience and service.
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Back to Radio Shack, I actually used to like them when I was a kid and it was the only electronics store within cycling distance of my house (well, it was just outside the arbitrary cycling limits my dad had set, but if I went to the library I could sneak over to Radio Shack). But then, they gave up on actual electronics and started selling crap (cell phones, r/c toys, etc.). I probably visit one once a year, but only when I really can't find something at Fry's or elsewhere. Radio Shack is a place of last resort.

And yes, the Fry's' have bike racks.
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Originally Posted by zeytoun
I bring my bike into antique china stores without asking first. If anyone gives me lip, I've got a catechism of questions ready to show them that my bike is their problem. They'd better grovel, because I'm a paying customer.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
Radio Shack is where I go if I need some chunk of cable or a connector or something. That's the only holdover from the era of hobbyist electronic experiment kits. But, since other large stores (Best Buy, etc) tend to have most cables and adapters and connectors anyway, Radio Shack is really losing its relevance.
Unfortunately the Best Buy out here sells only for lack of a better word "boutique" cables that cost 3 to 4 times what I can get them for at Radio Shack which is pretty much the only reason I go there unless I need a component fast, and even then I need to really look for a Radio Shack store that still stocks a few components and not cheap crap. It's not even the Denny's of electronics, more like McDonalds, although McDonalds is at least trying to improve their image a bit.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Expecting people to let bikes in the shop is a bit much since they take up space and can mess things up. Even when taking a bike into a bike shop, you should be considerate about not getting grime on the floor and elsewhere.

I ride everywhere, but when I see bike racks at the places of the likes of Ikea and Home Depot, I always laugh.
I take my bike inside Home Depot all the time and walk around with it. Those carts wheels are just as nasty as my bike wheels as both of them ride around on asphalt. Now, when I am picking up plywood it goes without saying I take the Jeep. But for zip ties, pvc fittings, a spray nozzle, a bike is more than suitable. Incidentally our Costco does indeed have a bike rack. Home Depot doesn't.
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Originally Posted by ChipSeal
I always take my bike in with me. Occasionally someone objects. I cease to be their customer.

To those who object, the conversation goes like this:


You can't bring your bike in here!

Why not?

It's not allowed!

Could you point me to the bike rack please?

There is no bike rack here.

I turn away into the store with my bike and begin shopping.

You have to take your bike outside!

If there is no place to lock my bike I am keeping it with me. Where are your batteries please?

Look, you have to remove the bike from the store! We cannot sell you anything until that happens.

Gee! What a great business you have! You are doing so well, you can turn paying customers away! Say, what other things can't paying customers bring into your store? Is there a list somewhere? Can I see it?

There's no list.

So you admit you just made up the rule that bicycles aren't allowed! Maybe it's racial discrimination!

I'm telling you, we do not allow bicycles in the store!

Could you make a list for me of all the things paying customers are not allowed to bring into your store so that I can be sure not to bring them with me inadvertently next time?

Get out of my store!

Basically I just make a scene and try to waste as much of the clerks time as can. It is fun to see how long I can make it last.
That's just rude and belligerent. If you're not happy with a store's policy, don't shop there. IMHO, it's inappropriate to cause a scene like that. Maybe you can try sending a letter to the store's head office? That's often more successful than acting this way.
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Originally Posted by ChipSeal
Basically I just make a scene and try to waste as much of the clerks time as can. It is fun to see how long I can make it last.
Just FYI, clerks are underpaid peons who are subject to constant abuse. Management makes them do all kinds of things to keep sales up and costs down, customers know they can't do anything even if you're totally unreasonable with them.

Anyone who likes picking on these people should try this type of work for at least a few months and see what it's like.

Originally Posted by Paul L.
I take my bike inside Home Depot all the time and walk around with it. Those carts wheels are just as nasty as my bike wheels as both of them ride around on asphalt.
Home Depot is different in that people do bring large dirty carts in all the time, there's lots of space, and people are moving large things around so it probably wouldn't raise eyebrows. RS is not like that at all.
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Originally Posted by ottawa_adam
That's just rude and belligerent. If you're not happy with a store's policy, don't shop there. IMHO, it's inappropriate to cause a scene like that. Maybe you can try sending a letter to the store's head office? That's often more successful than acting this way.
+1, especially about the rude & belligerent part.

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Just FYI, clerks are underpaid peons who are subject to constant abuse. Management makes them do all kinds of things to keep sales up and costs down, customers know they can't do anything even if you're totally unreasonable with them.

Anyone who likes picking on these people should try this type of work for at least a few months and see what it's like.
Everybody should do some time "on the other side of the counter" in the service industry.
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By the way, I do NOT advocate rudeness or any confrontational behavior in reaction to shopkeeper bike-unfriendliness. The reason for this type of bike-averse behavior in shopkeepers and lobby guards is the subject for another thread entirely. I vote with my feet & spend my (falling) dollar where bicycles are welcome.
 
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Originally Posted by banerjek
people on bikes can hardly carry anything
Give me a break. Please tell me this is satire.
 
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IF the OP has such a low opinion of RS, why did he go there in the first place?
Good question. Same reason I used to overpay for a cup of coffee, I suppose.
 
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I do NOT advocate rudeness or any confrontational behavior in reaction to shopkeeper bike-unfriendliness.
+1

We really should try to be more pro-active with our rudeness. Maybe lean the bike against the counter and honk the horn before we ascertain their opinion of bicyclists, not after....
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Originally Posted by alpinist
I thought that was stupid, not having a bike rack in Seattle, where so many people ride, then I thought about it... Who in the hell rides a bike to Costco? Normally people that go there buy mass quantities of stuff in bulk! People fill cars and minivans with bulk products when they go there!
You can ride an Xtracycle to Costco.
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