OK, this is really getting ridiculous!
 

We're under a heavy snowfall warning right now. What happened to spring???!? :cry:

I thought Canadians banned spring? j/k It's 87F with 25 mph winds(NOT a gust measurement. gusts are more like 30-35) here.

Yeah, no kidding, what the **** is wrong with the weather in Calgary this spring. I've lived here all my life, so I've been used to the crazy weather, but this spring has just sucked.

This was definitely not in the brochure.... I've only been here 3 years, so I'm still in the "WTF??!" stage. I am told that lasts till about Year 5, at which point apathy sets in. Or despair.

Oh, and if I hear one more person say "so much for global warming!" I am going to slap them with a dead fish. I have one in my freezer specially marked.

So much for global warming!.....













or maybe it is global warming... anyone seen Day After Tomorrow?

Climate change is the buzz word for it now.

In Calgary, we have winter.. then June July & August and then winter again.

Yeah, i've actually been feeling abit of sympathy for you Calgarites as of late. We've had abit of a rough spring up here but nothing compared to y'all. Oh well, so much for global warming.

It's still 60~ here in SoCal, which is getting annoying.

The last I heard we're putting off GW for ten years as we're in a cooling period for at least that long.

Then you'll see! :rolleyes:

+1 for climate change. I saw in the news Australia is in drought with some cities being enveloped by the desert expansion.

Toronto got way more snow fall than what we normally get during winter.
Although I think we officially hit spring for a week or two now.

This is La Nina.

Suck it up. I rode motorcycle regularly in snow and only fell once. So saddle up

I too have been here for 3 years, and I feel your pain. Before I moved here I had been told it would be warm ... lovely warm winters, warm summers. Bah. Not even close. Winnipeg, which is notorious for being cold, is much, much warmer and nicer than it is here.

I've been wanting to commute to work (70 kms round trip) for two weeks now but there has been so much rain and snow in that time.



And ... there is no such thing as global warming. There is climate change, but climates are cyclic so they go through natural warming and cooling trends ... natural climate changes. We might have been in a warming trend up till a few years ago, but I'm convinced we're into a cooling trend now. :(

And some parts of Australia are getting an incredible amount of rain, and have been for about a year now. The drought is over in certain parts there.

To back up my previous claim: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide

And also:

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-b...tal_ice_extent

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...ming-snow-job/

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/envi...aterworld.html

thanks for the correction. :)
I knew that news source, my memory, couldn't be correct.

I have to say that the weather we're experiencing in Calgary isn't particularly bad. The unpredictability comes from our proximity to the mountains. Spring is almost always later than I think it will be, but autumn seems to last forever. I fondly recall going mountain biking during x-mas holidays, with not a spec of snow to be seen, and temperatures above freezing. Two years ago I was playing street hockey on New Year's Eve in front of my house with friends. Nobody wore a jacket - we were all in t-shirts. I would have switched to shorts, but I kept sliding in the gravel.

Edmonton is cold in the winter. Saskatoon is cold in the winter, but is somehow more pleasant. ;) I know a couple of people who grew up in Winnipeg, and they think the winters here are fine, it's the summers that aren't warm enough [no humidity here]. The biggest change in winter that I have noticed is the amount of snow on the streets. Calgary doesn't plough its roads like it used to. Downtown is bone dry two days after a snowfall, but I need to run studs for the next two weeks just to get down my street. No justice...

I spent 13 years in Winnipeg (just moved here 3 years ago). The winters there were cold, but short compared with here, and the heat and humidity of summer was absolutely blissful!! :D It would start significantly warming up in early April many years, and would continue right to November. It would still hit +30C and higher in September, and into the mid-20s in October. I desperately miss the heat and humidity ... I find it so chilly and so dry here.

I'd move back in a flash if it weren't for my education and the lack of hills there. I do like the mountains here.

We are also under a snowfall warning. Blah!
And -11 to boot for tomorrow morning.
This sucks completely. I will be taking the truck tomorrow........

*taking fish out to thaw*

*making list*

I was in Canmore, AB for a while, back before it became what it is today. :( In K-country, snow was a real possibility well into June and even July. How much snow is forecast in Calgary?

Science disagrees with you.

Bring on the global warming!
I don't believe in that either.

Fixed

Thanks ... while I think most/all scientists are agreed on climate change (which can be defined in different ways), scientists are divided on the issue of global warming.

Solar cycle 24 is about to start and cold weather trends like this winter is a harbinger of future cooling due to solar cycle activity. This winter was a prime example. The last time we had a winter this cold was 109 years ago. Everyone knowledgeable about this sort of thing are castigated and made fun of by the same people that warned us of global cooling. If your wondering what happened to global cooling just look up the Mount St. Helen's eruption. According to the Global Cooling crowd the Mount St. Helen's eruption should have put us into an Ice Age lasting decades. They were proven wrong and the only thing that happened were really pretty sun sets for a couple of years. The current scare the population into paying more tax disaster scam artist are made up of failed government officials and so called scientists drawing money from the government in an effort to prove there is Global Warming. Currently there is no evidence whatsoever of any global warming taking place. Here is a link to information on Solar cycle 24. Just watch the slow cooling effect caused by the approach of what is thought to be a record setting cycle.
http://www.solarcycle24.com/
http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest_eit_195.gif

If the current long term warming was due to the solar cycle, then the upper atmosphere wouldn't be cooling, it would be warming right along with the lower atmosphere (the troposphere).

But the fact that above 50k feet it's actually getting cooler (while the surface is as warm or warmer as it ever was) is proof positive that less radiant heat is is making it's way to the upper atmosphere because it is being absorbed by increasing levels of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide.

It's simple chemistry and physics... but hey, if you wanna make it a political argument, it'll just make your side look like idjits in the end.

Since scientists are really only working with information from the last 100 years or so, it's very difficult for them to say with any certainty what is happening. Perhaps this is how the world is ... it gets a bit warmer, it gets a bit cooler, it gets a bit warmer, it gets a bit cooler ... perhaps weather is cyclic. After all seasons are cyclic, why not the whole climate pattern.

Ok.. let's go with your premise (even though the science behind GW is about 250 years old)

Do you think we SHOULDN'T err on the side of caution, given that you're insinuating that we don't know WTF we're doing to the biosphere?

That's actually not true. Paleoclimatologists use cores from glaciers and ice packs to get information about atmospheric gases, carbon loads, and net precipitation that goes back tens of thousands of years. More information comes from pollen and particles embedded in the ice cores and in lake sediments. The pollen tells you what kind of plants were dominant, and since plants have very specific climate requirements, that gives an indication of the minimum/maximum temperatures. Other particles such as ash and volcanic dust can show specific events that affected regional climates. Then there are tree rings, which give year by year indications of good or bad growing conditions. All of these layers, ice, sediments, and tree rings, can be cross-referenced with great precision, which makes it possible to distinguish regional climate changes from global ones.

In addition, we have written records from Europe and Scandinavia (probably elsewhere, but my field was medieval European history, so this is what I know) that go back far more than 100 years. People were not measuring temperature with the precision we can now, but they sure as heck paid attention to the weather year to year. Good crops and bad, floods and droughts - those records go back 2000 years. They come in the form of stories and tax records, but the information is there, and now historians are correlating the written record with the above mentioned paleoclimatology approaches.