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Old 06-17-08 | 03:38 PM
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Bicyclist attacked by roadside stranger

Just a few miles from where I live. I'll be giving pedestrians a little wider berth from now on.

https://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/j...side-stranger/
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Old 06-17-08 | 03:42 PM
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The lack of sunshine can really push some folks over the edge.
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Old 06-17-08 | 03:43 PM
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another good reason not to ride on the sidewalk.
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Old 06-17-08 | 03:48 PM
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another good reason not to ride on the sidewalk.
The report did not say he was riding on the sidewalk. It said he "was headed south on South Kingston Road when he was passing a pedestrian".
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Old 06-17-08 | 04:30 PM
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I was just up there this past weekend. Highly, highly unusual to see anyone walking on the road. There's a very wide shoulder along this road. Maybe ped was on shoulder, bicyclist to the right of the lane? If he just got off the ferry, this is likely since he may have been avoiding the nightmarish traffic of an unloading ferry.
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Old 06-17-08 | 04:36 PM
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That stinks. Sounds like that kid needed some mental health help and maybe some Thorazine.


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another good reason not to ride on the sidewalk.
I know I wasn't supposed to laugh while reading this thread, but this did it.
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Old 06-17-08 | 04:39 PM
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I love how the author makes the point that the cyclist didn't know the attacker, as if that makes it better (or worse) somehow.
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Old 06-17-08 | 05:30 PM
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Sounds like an attempted mugging.
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Old 06-17-08 | 05:43 PM
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Did anyone not notice the fact that the suspect was just involved in a psuedo-home invasion?
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Old 06-17-08 | 05:44 PM
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The lack of sunshine can really push some folks over the edge.
You've got to leave an excuse for the L.A. crazies
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Old 06-17-08 | 06:36 PM
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Pepper Spray would solve that problem.
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Old 06-17-08 | 07:30 PM
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Sounds like an attempted mugging.
Not really. From the article:
"When deputies went to kick him out, the 19-year-old responded with bizarre statements like "I am the last man on Earth," and "I want to drive," deputies said. He'd quickly transition between screaming and giggling, they added."
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That stinks. Sounds like that kid needed some mental health help and maybe some Thorazine.
I agree. He was almost certainly mentally ill or very high.

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Pepper Spray would solve that problem.
I doubt it. The attack probably happened so quickly that the victim couldn't have sprayed him until after he got punched. What would that solve?
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Old 06-17-08 | 09:16 PM
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I doubt it. The attack probably happened so quickly that the victim couldn't have sprayed him until after he got punched. What would that solve?
Who knows, but do it anyway!
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Old 06-17-08 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mangosalsa
That stinks. Sounds like that kid needed some mental health help and maybe some Thorazine.
Last year, I pedaled past a guy walking on the shoulder going the opposite direction. As I passed him, he yelled out, "Ride, mother****er, ride!", in a really bizarre tone of voice. I remember thinking that if he had wanted to, he could have reached out and grabbed or bumped my handlebars, causing a spill at best. I didn't even think about the possibility of being punched in the face until this article. Like I said, I'll be giving peds a wide berth.
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Old 06-17-08 | 10:10 PM
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Pepper Spray would solve that problem.
Not when you just get coldcocked. I used to carry the heavy end of a pool cue when I rode courier way back when. Didn't save me when some guy stepped out of an alley and busted me in head with a 2x4.

I think this situation just sounds like everyday, garden-variety crazy. I bet he's got nothing in particular against cyclists. He might have taken a swing at a car that came too close.

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Old 06-17-08 | 10:20 PM
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Definitely someone in an alternate version of reality. (Given the age, I'd guess schizophrenia. The psychotic symptoms can come on very quickly and usually around early adulthood. They can be triggered by drug use, which complicates things considerably, because a lot of people with schizophrenia attempt to self medicate when the less florid symptoms start...).
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Old 06-17-08 | 10:21 PM
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I usually give pedestrians a wide berth if they are moving in any exaggerated or unusual way. I probably dodge a lot of iPod dancers unnecessarily, but better safe than sorry.
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Old 06-17-08 | 10:26 PM
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Not when you just get coldcocked. I used to carry the heavy end of a pool cue when I rode courier way back when. Didn't save me when some guy stepped out of an alley and busted me in head with a 2x4.

I think this situation just sounds like everyday, garden-variety crazy. I bet he's got nothing in particular against cyclists. He might have taken a swing at a car that came too close.


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You're absolutely right. I've worked on psych units for 30 years and I've been coldcocked a number of times.

Pain is not a good weapon when you're dealing with a psychotic person. Inflicting pain before he hits you won't stop him because he's so agitated. Inflicting pain after he hits you is just taking revenge on a sick person, and not cool.

Walk away. If that doesn't work, push him away from you very hard, then turn and run away. A psychotic person will almost never follow you, since they usually just want to be left alone.
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Old 06-17-08 | 10:28 PM
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I usually give pedestrians a wide berth if they are moving in any exaggerated or unusual way. I probably dodge a lot of iPod dancers unnecessarily, but better safe than sorry.

An excellent strategy!

And a good curbside diagnosis in your previous message, Dr. Buglady.
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Old 06-17-08 | 11:10 PM
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I had a drunk take a swing at me as I rode by once, He did not make contact but avoiding him took me off the bike . then stated he was going to kick my *****. I try to avoid conflict when someone threatens me (threaten my family is a different story) But at the time we had just lost a son in a car accident and I just did not care .I was riding that day to think. It took him about 3 seconds to decide he didn't want to kick my ***** after all. I feel bad about it now days but he pushed the issue
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Old 06-17-08 | 11:27 PM
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I passed a guy today pushing a shopping cart on a sidewalk through a business park that is easily 4 miles from the closest grocery store. He was yelling at cars and at me. I have never been more thankful that there is a *wide* landscape strip between the road and the sidewalk.
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Old 06-17-08 | 11:48 PM
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I love how the author makes the point that the cyclist didn't know the attacker, as if that makes it better (or worse) somehow.
Dare I point out that that's what makes the story newsworthy? If he had been attacked by somebody he knew, then it's pretty easy to imagine that there was some history between them that flared up at that moment.

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So what you're telling us is that you've been in and out of psychiatric facilities for many years?

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So what you're telling us is that you've been in and out of psychiatric facilities for many years?
Well, I've been in but I've never been out.
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Old 06-18-08 | 01:12 AM
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I used to live in Kingston off the Point-No Point Road & there isn't a sidewalk on South Kingston Rd. When we lived there, response time for the Kitsap County Sheriff was around 40 minutes because they operated out of Silverdale & covered a large, rural area with few staff. There were sometimes a couple of State Patrol officers at the dock to deal with ferry traffic but locals are usually on their own in situations like this. It was fortunate the deputies were still in the area because of the previous incident. Don
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