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aubinmg 06-19-08 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by cooker (Post 6899948)
It could mostly be that they just don't see you. They are used to looking for cars and they may be staring in your direction without noticing you. As a car driver I've sometimes almost failed to see bikes, even though I ride a lot myself. You have to ride with the awareness that they may be looking right through you.

On my bike, I pre-emptively ring my bell a lot when I see I am converging with a car, to try to raise their alertness.

+1. A little judicious assertiveness and a ringing bell usually do the trick for me. Sometimes though I wish I had an Air-Zounds.

Buglady 06-19-08 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by capolover (Post 6907121)
I always puff up like a lizard at intersections. I stand up on my pedals and grab my top grips. It slows me down but I know they see me.

Thise is hilarious (biology geek here). It should work well, too.

DataJunkie 06-19-08 09:27 AM

That actually does help. I tend to stand up on my bike at times while approaching busy intersections or when I see a motorist that I am unsure if they have seen me. Makes one bigger and easier to see.

capolover 06-19-08 09:34 AM

I love riding standing up and leaning on my top grips.

I think of it like taking your foot off the pedal when you ride through an intersection. They teach you that in driving school in high school, remember? Not that most people do it, but it's the same deal. The slower you go the more reaction time you have and the more control you have.


If the motorist is on the right turning into the road i'm on I move a little to the right of the lane and look them in the eye from a standing position. If they are turning from oncoming traffic I keep the lane and pedal a bit faster to get through while standing.

Also, lizards rock.

http://divaboo.info/img/Frill-necked_Lizard.jpg

Bike4More 06-19-08 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by MikeR (Post 6906653)
+ 1
Be predictable and take control of the situation. They appreciate it.

True, be predictable and you will be treated more equally.

chipcom 06-19-08 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by MikeR (Post 6906652)
I don't assume that they get it but I try to signal and communicate. I also communicate in other ways - hand signals yells etc. In other words, when it is necessary I take control of the situation and tell the drivers what I am doing and (many times) what they should do. Around here (central Pa) it works - it's not just a theory. Maybe the people around here are nicer that other places but I doubt it.

Signalling = good. Depending on others to understand the meaning of those signals...not so much.

In Lancaster, PA (eastern, I know) I once signaled a left turn...the motorist who then tried to pass me on the left must have thought I was airing out my pits! :notamused:

But what counts is what works for you. ;)

donnamb 06-19-08 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 6904982)
Actually it's your drop-dead gorgeous good looks that do that, darlin. :love:

You and your silver tongue, Chip... :p

I will say this: the woman yakking on her cell phone while driving and oblivious to what is around her will hear the Airzounds over her engrossing phone conversation. :thumb:

I have a bell for the civilized folks. :)

therentedmule 06-19-08 02:25 PM

Drivers are ignorant, unaware or agressive. I had a woman get out of her car and yell at me because I got in her way as she was trying to make a right accross a bike lane. Not sure what the laws are most places but here cars must yield to bikes in the bike lanes. Most people use the bike lanes as turning (or parking) lanes regardless of bike traffic.

Moonshiner 06-19-08 05:21 PM

These threads make me sad. I must be the exception. On my ride to work. I pass the friendly old ladies on their porches who wave to me and say good morning. Daily, I have cagers yield the right of way to me. (even when they had the right of way, not me.) Today I had someone stop in midlane and wave me accross the intersection. (I had the stop sign.) I find the folks I share my commute with to be very considerate.

DataJunkie 06-19-08 06:38 PM

Where are you located at? I think I may need to move. :p

aley 06-20-08 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by donnamb (Post 6909939)
I will say this: the woman yakking on her cell phone while driving and oblivious to what is around her will hear the Airzounds over her engrossing phone conversation.

But is it loud enough that the person she's talking to will hear it through the phone? That's what I want! :D

scottmorrison99 06-20-08 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 6900056)
Bell my butt...I holler at them!

Followed by a palmslap to the vehicle if it's that close. Sometimes they don't care if they cut you off, but if they think they scratched their vehicle they pay attention.

caloso 06-20-08 03:38 PM

Yep. Left hand if possible. The wedding ring makes a nice cracking sound that'll get their attention.


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