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Old 07-11-08 | 03:30 PM
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MS Governor considering 4-day work week

https://www.sunherald.com/newsupdates/story/678288.html

Any other state governors considering this change?
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Old 07-11-08 | 03:35 PM
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I vote for the 1 2/3-day work week.

Yes, those two days would be awful...but you've got to figure that by the time you sleep for all of day three, you still have a four day weekend ahead of you.
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... because ya know... mississippi is a real productive place to begin with
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Been doing 4 tens for a while, and before that I did something approximating 3 12's and change. I'll cry if I have to do 5 day work weeks again - a whole day out of your life lost forever every single week.
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Personally, I think the idea of a 4-10 work week is an exceptionally bad one. During the summer months, my wife works 4-10s and I don't get to see her until 7:00 or 8:00 at night, which means I either eat dinner alone or have a very late dinner and if I eat late, than I go to bed late, get less sleep, end up groggy the next morning and in a generally bad attitude.

Also, if the whole idea is to help state employees save money on gas, well that's a myth. I figure I use a gallon of gas per day driving to and from work. That means I'd save a whopping $4 a week under the governor's plan. That's not even enough to buy me lunch. Oh, I'm sure it would be great for anyone driving a stupid ugly vehicle that gets 10 MPG, but anyone driving a Prius gets royally screwed. The whole plan is #$!@&^ up, IMO.
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Also, if the whole idea is to help state employees save money on gas, well that's a myth.
No it's not. You reduce your consumption by 20%...that's huge.
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Old 07-14-08 | 09:17 AM
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No it's not. You reduce your consumption by 20%...that's huge.
Over a month's time, that wouldn't even pay for half a tank of gas for me. Huge? Only if people don't drive on the fifth day. What I see is people taking that extra day off and go off and run errands burning more gas than they would have if they just went to work that day. Besides, there are better solutions: car pooling (what an amazing concept, cars can actually carry more than one person at a time), public mass transit (especially useful if they gave, or sold at a nominal price, state employees a bus pass that could be used on on public mass transit system in the state), motorcycles and scooters (and I've been there, done that myself), bicycling (which, to me, is a great idea since Mississippi is already the most obese state in the union for the past three years). As for me, I'd rather stick with 5-8s and bicycle 2-3 times a week and save some REAL money.

edit: Mississippi is also #1 when it comes to heart disease death rates.

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Old 07-14-08 | 09:19 AM
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I am actually going to have a conference call with my boss today and ask him about this, I would *KILL* for 4 10s!
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Makes a lot of sense. Less commuting. 10 hours, that is not such a long work day , that it cuts down of employee's efficiency. Studies have shown, more than 12 hours harms workers' efficiency. / And Mississippi. They have the nations highest rate of obesity. / Maybe Barbour can buy all employess an bike and demand they ride it on Fridays and Saturdays.
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My town just went to this for all Town Hall based employees. I wonder, however, what shenanigans this will cause with folks who use daycare for kids, now that their shift went from 8hrs to 10hrs. DC overtime can be $$$
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Over a month's time, that wouldn't even pay for half a tank of gas for me. Huge? Only if people don't drive on the fifth day. What I see is people taking that extra day off and go off and run errands burning more gas than they would have if they just went to work that day. Besides, there are better solutions: car pooling (what an amazing concept, cars can actually carry more than one person at a time), public mass transit (especially useful if they gave, or sold at a nominal price, state employees a bus pass that could be used on on public mass transit system in the state), motorcycles and scooters (and I've been there, done that myself), bicycling (which, to me, is a great idea since Mississippi is already the most obese state in the union for the past three years). As for me, I'd rather stick with 5-8s and bicycle 2-3 times a week and save some REAL money.
A 20% reduction is huge. You would be basically getting every fifth tank of gas for free. That might translate to fewer free tanks for you since you ride and based on your proximity, but for most ppl it would be a very big deal.
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It would kind of suck for everybody else who still has a 5-day work week...and now one day a week less of government services...no?
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It would kind of suck for everybody else who still has a 5-day work week...and now one day a week less of government services...no?
Some rotate essential services on a four day work week. but lesser staff on Monday's and Friday, by having some on Tue/ Fridays, others Mondays thru Thursdays. Minimal loss that way. Its not all government who follow this trend . It happens in business' too. For them, means less A/C, electricity use. Etc.
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State employees********** Don't they already get something like 90 days off per year due to holidays********** (insert sarcasm emoticon here)

At the day job I work a 4-1/2 day work week, four 9's and 4 hours on Fridays. Jumping to a 4x10 would be great, but word is the company keeps thinking of going to a 5x8 format which would kill my Friday afternoon which I use to do the stuff I can't do during the rest of the week. If I loose my Friday afternoon then I'll have to do errands on Saturday mornings before noon which would kill the weekend.

I've got an indirect relative who works Tuesday-Thursday and has Friday-Monday off, that would be nice. I could get in lots of bicycle riding then.
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You would be basically getting every fifth tank of gas for free.
Only if you use the car for work commuting and nothing else.
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obviously...but the point still stands.
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While I like the idea, I'd rather telecommute on the fifth day instead. Small kids at home, so my wife would not want me to gone from 7am to 8pm. Plus, they're small only once.

While 5 day workweeks are kind of a pain for adults, I think 4 day workweeks might hurt kids more--it's that much more time lost with mom and/or dad. At least for some families, I should say, like mine.
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Any other state governors considering this change?
Utah's already doing it.

https://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...four-day_N.htm

Here's discussion in The Oil Drum about it:

https://www.theoildrum.com/node/2996
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I don't know where all you lucky folks get to work but I'd love 5x8 or 4x10. I think my company decided to combine the two and I'm lucky to get away with 5x10
Gov't employees 4x10 though? You think they might offer some hours people could actually use their services?

My wife is either starts work an hour after me or 4 hours after me and works tuesday - saturday. Since her job is in the field lunch is included in the 8 hours she works. She also found a job that is 1.4 miles from our house. I've tried applying for jobs with the town but I just can't get hired there (not to mention the $$$$ pay cut I'd suck up). So for the most part we see eachother for an hour here and there and on Sunday.

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A 20% reduction is huge. You would be basically getting every fifth tank of gas for free. That might translate to fewer free tanks for you since you ride and based on your proximity, but for most ppl it would be a very big deal.
Car pooling would save even more. If Employee A were to drive 28 miles RT in a car that got an average of 14 MPG, that means s/he would burn 2 gallons of gas. At $4/gallon, that's $8 of gas per day or $40 per week. Now if that same person were to start a car pool with three co-workers and each one paid a fourth of the price for gas, that equals out to $2 per day per passenger or $10 per week per passenger.

And trust me, since my wife is currently working 4-10s, I don't get to see much of her (not to mention that our days off don't coincide makes it worse), and it really grates on me. By the time she comes home, she's hot, tired, and ready to go to sleep. If I were to end up working 4-10s, you can add groggy, grouchy and generally PO'd, not something you'd want in an underpaid, overworked state employee (I think the technical term is called "going postal" ). And I don't live or work in the capital city of Jackson (thankfully); that city is an insane asylum as is. Oh, and remember, those 10 hours do not include lunch, which really makes it 11 hours; add in the commuting time and you're looking more at 12-13 hour days.
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Four day work weeks were the standard in small towns until the mid eighties.
Wednesdays, if you did work it was only until lunch.
I miss it, it seemed more civilized.
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Four day work weeks were the standard in small towns until the mid eighties.
Wednesdays, if you did work it was only until lunch.
I miss it, it seemed more civilized.
Really???? I lived and worked in a small town in the mid-eighties, I didn't know anyone with a four day work week. What country are you from?
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add in the commuting time and you're looking more at 12-13 hour days.
If you think put an after that, you must never have been to grad school. I did 80-100 hour weeks for a decade, for just $15k/year, and those were the best years of my life. I'm on 4 10's now and it hardly seems like working, though I'm on site, in transit, or at the office 12-14 hours a day. A better schedule for productivity would be 3 12's and an 8 every other week, because we do an 82 mile round trip to the job site daily.
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