earplugs are doing wonders
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I brought this up recently, and I was convinced to wear earplugs while riding. (Y'all old posters need to get over the need to b---- at me for bringing up an old topic, which was also discussed a couple of years ago.)
The earplugs have made a world of difference. I'm not freaking out in traffic anymore, and I rely more on visual cues to tell me what to do. I'm using visual hand signals to notify drivers of my intent, and it's working. After all, they are encased in a shell that may or may not allow them to hear my bell or verbal expressions. Also, when I drive, I use my visual sense more (since I am encased during those times), so it makes sense to use it when I bicycle, too.
Hoping that some newbies will consider earplugs. It significantly improves the quality of the ride.
The earplugs have made a world of difference. I'm not freaking out in traffic anymore, and I rely more on visual cues to tell me what to do. I'm using visual hand signals to notify drivers of my intent, and it's working. After all, they are encased in a shell that may or may not allow them to hear my bell or verbal expressions. Also, when I drive, I use my visual sense more (since I am encased during those times), so it makes sense to use it when I bicycle, too.
Hoping that some newbies will consider earplugs. It significantly improves the quality of the ride.

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I remember listening to the 69 world series with a small (for the time) handheld FM radio. I could strap it to the sissy bar (remember those things as a kid???) but the small speakers distorted terribly when you turned up the volume. I ended up holding the radio to my ear riding with one hand. I didn't have an ear plug, and I am not sure ear jacks were even standard then. But I bought a car when I was 16, so that the bike got very little use during the early years of portable music developement, I was too busy wiring up my 8 track.
I forget when the headset FM things came out. The first personal music player I had was a sony wlakman in cassette, mid 80's? Never used the walkman on the bike or, ahem, even walking around, it was for studying at the library. I guess locomotion, music, and I never was a winning combination.
I forget when the headset FM things came out. The first personal music player I had was a sony wlakman in cassette, mid 80's? Never used the walkman on the bike or, ahem, even walking around, it was for studying at the library. I guess locomotion, music, and I never was a winning combination.When the walkmans came out, it didn't take them long to come out with the 'sport' headphones (ear buds)...but the only walkman that was suitable for riding were the am/fm only jobs. Cassettes were too bulky and went through batteries too fast - and fogetaboud CDs...even bulkier and they skipped with every bump.
I remember wiring up the old 8-track to my first cars...thing is, driving didn't get me away from biking for long...I was always getting in trouble for drag racing, smoking, drinking, drugs, etc. and Dad would take the car keys from me...so my bike was still important to me!
Listening to music while riding really isn't any different that doing so while driving. Indeed, as a teen, the music in my car was much louder and impaired my hearing (and the hearing of anyone near me) much more than anything ever did riding a bike. I wonder how all these folks that consider hearing overtaking traffic as so important to safety manage to drive a car, where you can hear overtaking traffic even less than you can listening to music?
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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The original poster wanted to hear less, I want to hear more, and another wants to hear music. Its all good though, or should be all good, at least in the land of the free.
edit: it was a measly nine bucks to have the slipstreamz sent right to my door. I couldn't resist. Might try the hacked up sunglasses in the meantime though.
edit: it was a measly nine bucks to have the slipstreamz sent right to my door. I couldn't resist. Might try the hacked up sunglasses in the meantime though.
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no reason to have to hear someone say "to the left" if you LOOK before you move left and I do.
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We do agree...to each his/her own, screw the safety nannies.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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I absolutely despise "cyclists" that have earplugs/headphones in their ears. They almost never nod to you & I never nod to them even if they do. 90% of them are not cyclists but weekend warriors. The other 10% can be called cyclists until a big truck/Toyota Prius kisses them from behind. They can't fool the Nature in the long run, it's just the natural selection at work: weeding out the morons that is. Who said that riding a bike makes you smart?
Your anger makes you ignorant. GRRR!
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I don't ride with earphones. I have an mp3 player with a speaker on it. It is a zen stone. I like being able to hear my music, but also listen out for cars, peds, and other cyclist.
Usually I can hear a cyclist coming up on me...this is important because my road in filled with rocks here, screws there, nuts and bolts...dirty diapers..glass..etc. So I am constantly moving my wheel to get out of the way of some of this stuf...oh and potholes...
some things i can do a sharp little move that barely pushes me off my line, but other times I really have to make a move
Now if another cyclist was coming up and didn't say on your left or good morning etc..we would ram into each other. Because I am usually not looking behind me in the bike lane. Or sometimes things come upon you suddenly..and listening out for a car to know if you need to brake or you can make that slight move is something that comes in handy for me during my commute.
Usually I can hear a cyclist coming up on me...this is important because my road in filled with rocks here, screws there, nuts and bolts...dirty diapers..glass..etc. So I am constantly moving my wheel to get out of the way of some of this stuf...oh and potholes...
some things i can do a sharp little move that barely pushes me off my line, but other times I really have to make a move
Now if another cyclist was coming up and didn't say on your left or good morning etc..we would ram into each other. Because I am usually not looking behind me in the bike lane. Or sometimes things come upon you suddenly..and listening out for a car to know if you need to brake or you can make that slight move is something that comes in handy for me during my commute.
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I use an isolation earbud in my right ear to listen to audiobooks. I could ride fine with both ears plugged too; I use a mirror very heavily and see cars many seconds before they get to me, whether they're making noise or not.
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Part of cycling in general to me is the minimalism involved with it. I carry a leatherman (always), multi-function bike tool, patch kit, and pump when cycling for enjoyment. Other than that I have daily commute stuff, like laptop etc. But to me it's about thrusting a combination of steel, rubber, and plastics at a decent speed with nothing other than my body. Having all the sounds involved with riding my bike is part of my enjoyment. The drive train, cars, tires, and wind is part of my enjoyment. With out those aspects I would feel cheated.
Other people are clearly different. Suggesting to use ear plugs to new cyclists as an advantage is only doing them a disservice. It is clearly a highly subjective matter.
Other people are clearly different. Suggesting to use ear plugs to new cyclists as an advantage is only doing them a disservice. It is clearly a highly subjective matter.
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No troll, baby! I just like to ride my bicycle. In the past, I have been totally freaked out by traffic sounds, and it has inhibited my ability to truly ride safely. I still hear things, but it's not as loud. I rely more on the visual, which seems more accurate than hoping that a Prius will make a sound.
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Thank you! That is my point. There is no way I could possibly hear which cars were behind and beside me, between their noise and mine. I've always used visual to deal with traffic.
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With the new recumbent, I've been going further and faster than I could go on my old bike. I hear more wind, and I've been in more traffic situations. ...My speed and distance on the recumbent, by the way, is nothing compared to the speed and distance described by some of the posters here. It has been enough for me to consider my hearing, which led to the earplugs in the first place. Using them has led me to a much better quality experience while riding.
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And that is my personal choice, based upon my personal experience. What surprised me, was that I found I liked riding without music. I might say that those who ride with music just have not tried hard enough to enjoy the experience of cycling for what it is, but I know that would be wrong.
I think discussing this topic always degenerates becuase the music proponents see it as a threat, as if the next step is to try and prohibit earphones. Take that threat out of the discussion, and the benefits and limitations of using or not using earphones is easier to deal with. I just happen to be someone who does better without earphones/earplugs.
I think discussing this topic always degenerates becuase the music proponents see it as a threat, as if the next step is to try and prohibit earphones. Take that threat out of the discussion, and the benefits and limitations of using or not using earphones is easier to deal with. I just happen to be someone who does better without earphones/earplugs.
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Hey, its easy to believe that something should or should not be done without also believing that everyone else must do it your way. And rather insist that you do or do not use earphones, I would rather insist that everyone must use personal freedom and responsibility when they ride!.
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Not a Noob, by the way. Noob to the board, but not to cycling. I've done it on and off for over 20 years, some of which were spent entirely car-free. (In fact, all the discussions about peoples' reactions kind of blow me away, since I've always done it, in some way or another, and never gotten a whole lot of hassle, other than "Can I give you a ride?" and "I hope you are safe.") What's new to me is riding out in the street and bike lanes, as I previously had access to an awesome MUP.
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I thought so! Hmmm. Mount to the front strap like a slipstreamz, cover the ears and some foam like yours, the next generation?
Anyone ever try the slipstreamz?

Website says you can simulate how well it works by putting your index finger in front of your ear next time you ride. Gosh darnit, I have never ridden with my index finger in front of my ear, and I won't get the chance to try this out for a few days. But this does show that for some, hearing must be pretty important to try out stuff like this.
Anyone ever try the slipstreamz?

Website says you can simulate how well it works by putting your index finger in front of your ear next time you ride. Gosh darnit, I have never ridden with my index finger in front of my ear, and I won't get the chance to try this out for a few days. But this does show that for some, hearing must be pretty important to try out stuff like this.

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Not really, most cyclists don't dare venture onto the the road, unfortunately...they confine themselves to MUPs, bike lanes, shoulders, sidewalks and such. But either way, they ain't gonna sneak up on me any more than a car because I PAY ATTENTION to what is going on around me and give a look before making any moves.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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Back in '59 when I got my new 3 speed English Racer, I also sent off for a 2 transistor radio ($2.98 in a comic book) that I could mount to my handle bars.....AM sounded so much better then...
Just picked up an old Archer bicycle AM radio (Radio Shack) for my old 3 speed English Racer..anyone have the handlebar mount for one of those?
Just picked up an old Archer bicycle AM radio (Radio Shack) for my old 3 speed English Racer..anyone have the handlebar mount for one of those?
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I guess I just wasted nine bucks. Maybe I can modify them somehow, such as mating them with something more effective. Ah well. I am a sucker for gizmos.
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Like their web site suggests, holding your finger next to your ear makes a dramatic difference. So I just wrapped some foam around my strap and duct taped it on to simulate my finger...



