newbie, needs guidance
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newbie, needs guidance
hey guys, ill be going to college this august in DC, and i would like to have a nice bike so i can dodge the car most of the time.
guide me through the process of choosing which brands (remember they are ALL new to me, as well as all your terminologies)
i was looking at Konas, they seem pretty cool.
i need a nice light ride that will be perfect for the city and metro stations but at the same time allow me to tear up the hills and parks and tracks when i want.
the kona dew and smoke 2-9 look pretty darn cool for what i need but you guy's opinion would be much appreciated. i dont even know if those bikes are what i need. it would be nice if the bike already came with a little tiny rack on the back for maybe grocery store trips to get mah fruit in college!!!!
thx guys
guide me through the process of choosing which brands (remember they are ALL new to me, as well as all your terminologies)
i was looking at Konas, they seem pretty cool.
i need a nice light ride that will be perfect for the city and metro stations but at the same time allow me to tear up the hills and parks and tracks when i want.
the kona dew and smoke 2-9 look pretty darn cool for what i need but you guy's opinion would be much appreciated. i dont even know if those bikes are what i need. it would be nice if the bike already came with a little tiny rack on the back for maybe grocery store trips to get mah fruit in college!!!!
thx guys
#2
Kona Smoke is a great bike from what i've heard. You can also check out bikes from KHS, which also has good bang for your buck. Make sure you put money in your budget for accessories, like helmet, LOCK (dont skimp!), lights, pumps, spare tubes and tools for tire change.
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Just remember: The bigger the tire, the lower the air pressure, and the slower the speed. Likewise, thin tires with high air pressure equal greater speed.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
#5
Differences are the quality of parts that are used like derailluers, shifters, hubs and etc... I'd personally go with the smoke because its slightly cheaper and comes with some cool fenders.
#6
The Smoke 2-9 has a Cro-Mo (better than Hi-Ten) steel frame with grip shifters.
The Dew has an aluminum frame with trigger shifters.
I would personally go with the Smoke. (But then again, I own a older Smoke w/26" wheels).
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now say i did have hills to cross, is there any better gear system to have? like less gears? or does it really matter when you use the bike nicely
also can someone point me to a supposedly good and known fold up bike? just in case i like it, it would be useful on the metro
also can someone point me to a supposedly good and known fold up bike? just in case i like it, it would be useful on the metro
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Just remember: The bigger the tire, the lower the air pressure, and the slower the speed. Likewise, thin tires with high air pressure equal greater speed.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
I appreciate your perspective. We're commuting, right? Check out posts by PaulH from D.C. for the most sensible comments I've seen on the subject of getting from A to B.
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From: Ypsilanti, MI
Bikes: Rocky Mountain RC30, Soma Sport Fixed
Just remember: The bigger the tire, the lower the air pressure, and the slower the speed. Likewise, thin tires with high air pressure equal greater speed.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
If you really want to cut across grass, dirt, gravel, etc., get a Trek 7000 series, preferrably 7300 or higher.
If you want to go fast, get something more roadlike.
I just bought the Soho 1.0 by Trek, and couldn't be happier with it (unless I won it in a contest or something).
I think it was underpriced at $699 out the door (tax included).
I rode it to work and back for the first time today (not my first time riding to work and back, but it was on this new bike), and I wasn't sitting down, in first gear, struggling to get up the hills. I was up on my feet and out of the saddle, swinging my handlebars and jamming up those hills like I was running up the stairs.
I just turned a steep, nasty hill outside my neighborhood into a 30-second sprint. I cut two minutes off my commute on that hill alone.
The second hill is worse. I ended up sitting for half of it, riding in first gear. Still have to work on that.
But the third hill, again, I stood up and sprinted up it.
I shaved five minutes off my time (and that included a couple wrong turns).
My goal is twenty minutes.
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More vs. less gears is a preference. The bikes you will probably be looking at will have either 8 or 9 gears in the rear, which is more than enough. The only thing you might think about is whether you want 2 or 3 gears in the front. The tradeoff is that 2 gears in front is easier to maintain and is less complicated, but having 3 gears lets you have a "granny gear" for helping you get up big hills. For the most part, newer riders see benefit in having the granny gear, and the DC area has enough hills that I like having a granny gear on my bikes.
For what it's worth, you can take a regular bike on the Metro outside of peak hours.
Good luck, and have fun riding in DC!
#14
It doesn't matter what bike you choose as that comes in second to proper fit, the value of which is the first thing you should think about. Otherwise you'll be posting here in a couple of months about tingling hands and a sore ***** LOL.
The quality of each of these machines is probably fine, your level of fitness vs your route will determine the gearing you need. Look at a triple with an 8 or 9 speed rear for a nice selection of choices for killer hills. This is general but per your post, you're new and need some background. Also, get some commuting style clip in shoes (ones you can actually walk on off the bike) with the cleat imbedded in the sole. These are handy.
The quality of each of these machines is probably fine, your level of fitness vs your route will determine the gearing you need. Look at a triple with an 8 or 9 speed rear for a nice selection of choices for killer hills. This is general but per your post, you're new and need some background. Also, get some commuting style clip in shoes (ones you can actually walk on off the bike) with the cleat imbedded in the sole. These are handy.
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Bikes: Devinci Caribou, Kona Dew Plus, Raleigh Twenty
The Smoke has a steel frame, and the Dew is aluminum. Ride both to see which you like the "feel" of better.
The Smoke is a bit heavier than the Dew.
The Dew has some variations, Dew, Dew Plus, Dew Deluxe which basically the more expensive models are lighter with better brakes and better gearing. But the base model Dew is a good bike and should be fine!
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Nearly all the manufacturers will have a bike in that price range similar to the Kona's. I would go to at least 3 stores with different bikes and ride them around. By the one that fits the best, has the shifters you like, and looks the way you want. At the very least you want the Cro-Moly frame or aluminium frame. Don't get the gas-pipe frame, don't be that guy.
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From: Ypsilanti, MI
Bikes: Rocky Mountain RC30, Soma Sport Fixed
Nearly all the manufacturers will have a bike in that price range similar to the Kona's. I would go to at least 3 stores with different bikes and ride them around. By the one that fits the best, has the shifters you like, and looks the way you want. At the very least you want the Cro-Moly frame or aluminium frame. Don't get the gas-pipe frame, don't be that guy.







