Four Way Stop LIGHT question.
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Four Way Stop LIGHT question.
When I commute to work I go through a four-way stop light that crosses above a major freeway. In Minnesota bike riders ride in the same direction as the traffic. When I approach the stoplight the pedestrian signal is crossed out and you are supposed to go to the left, cross the intersection, and then go forward from there. This is a fairly busy intersection and I usually do have to stop. My question is do I stay with traffic flow and continue on or should I also go to the left and cross the intersection. It is strange because there are pedestrian sidewalks on the both side of the road -although I don't use them because they aren't good for riding. There must be a reason for the lights being that way but I sure can’t figure it out. There are no bike lanes on either side of the road.
I tried to draw it out here
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I tried to draw it out here
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As long as you've already got the lane, just maintain it to get through the intersection. If you're on the sidewalk, someone else will have to field this question.
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If you are in pedestrian mode (using facilities for people walking), do exactly as a pedestrian would.
If you are in vehicular mode, that is driving your bike as if a slow moving narrow vehicle using facilities provided for vehicles, then continue as if a vehicle.
Either may work well, but be most careful if switching between each mode - that if you do you make it a distinct switch and other drivers and pedestrians know your intent in advance.
Al
If you are in vehicular mode, that is driving your bike as if a slow moving narrow vehicle using facilities provided for vehicles, then continue as if a vehicle.
Either may work well, but be most careful if switching between each mode - that if you do you make it a distinct switch and other drivers and pedestrians know your intent in advance.
Al
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You might be able to post a google maps view of the intersection, that seems to help alot for the experts to assist.
You said you were not using the sidewalk, and mentioned a lack of bike lanes but more like it was unique to the intersection? From this conclusion I say: take the lane at a reasonable and safe distance and keep it until you are through the intersection.
You said you were not using the sidewalk, and mentioned a lack of bike lanes but more like it was unique to the intersection? From this conclusion I say: take the lane at a reasonable and safe distance and keep it until you are through the intersection.
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If you are in pedestrian mode (using facilities for people walking), do exactly as a pedestrian would.
If you are in vehicular mode, that is driving your bike as if a slow moving narrow vehicle using facilities provided for vehicles, then continue as if a vehicle.
Either may work well, but be most careful if switching between each mode - that if you do you make it a distinct switch and other drivers and pedestrians know your intent in advance.
Al
If you are in vehicular mode, that is driving your bike as if a slow moving narrow vehicle using facilities provided for vehicles, then continue as if a vehicle.
Either may work well, but be most careful if switching between each mode - that if you do you make it a distinct switch and other drivers and pedestrians know your intent in advance.
Al
Are there any states that actually require bikes to be ridden against traffic?
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I felt like pulling a U and giving him a piece of my mind though.
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[QUOTE Are there any states that actually require bikes to be ridden against traffic?[/QUOTE]
No not in the US
however most of latin and south america Do require you to ride against traffic
which is why one sees so many invisible Cyclists riding the wrong way
Steve
No not in the US
however most of latin and south america Do require you to ride against traffic
which is why one sees so many invisible Cyclists riding the wrong way
Steve
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Do you have some cites?
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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however most of latin and south america Do require you to ride against traffic
which is why one sees so many invisible Cyclists riding the wrong way
Steve[/QUOTE]
I see lots of cyclists going the wrong way but I have never seen any invisible cyclists.




