New Hard Sided Panniers
05-06-09 | 08:02 PM
#26
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12-20-09 | 08:31 PM
#28
6 miles per taco, w00t!
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. . . never know when everyone will suddenly turn into a zombie.
12-20-09 | 11:18 PM
#29
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Bikes: Custom 531ST touring, Bilenky Viewpoint, Bianchi Milano, vintage Condor racer
I use a Pelican case for my hard pannier, and KlickFix mounting hardware available as spare parts from REI. (Picture is a clickable link to flickr for more details.)
12-20-09 | 11:31 PM
#30
6 miles per taco, w00t!
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Although these cases/boxes/ammo boxes even, are extremely utilitarian, i just can't bring myself to put them on my bike. There is just some level of bike nerd factor i can't get over. Of course, i also told myself i would never get a rack or panniers.
. . . i just bought both 2 days ago.
. . . i just bought both 2 days ago.
12-21-09 | 07:19 AM
#31
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Impressive execution. I had used Pelican cases in the service and nowadays at work, but never thought to adapt one.
Thnak you for sharing your idea.
12-21-09 | 07:47 AM
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If you mount the machine gun on the front rack then you'd have to put a couple wide belt pulleys on the top bar to run the ammo belt up to the front. Might be good, might need a little shield in front too so the hot spent casings bounce to the side not back up in your face as you ride. But then, as another poster pointed out, you'd be ready in seconds in case it's a "fast zombie" outbreak instead of those old slow zombies.
10-15-10 | 09:35 AM
#33
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how 'bout rear mounted machine guns to discourage draft ninjas?
maybe a little overkill. i suppose a james bond style oil slick system would be sufficient.
maybe a little overkill. i suppose a james bond style oil slick system would be sufficient.
10-15-10 | 10:24 AM
#34
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This thread is ancient, but still good info. The KlickFix hooks are no longer available, but the MEC ones look good. I may have to make a set of these, just because...
10-16-10 | 01:58 PM
#36
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Great Build! I compliment your DIY innovation! These are probably the neatest damn things I've seen a DIYer create in waterproof panniers. How easy are they to remove? From the pictures it looks like a fairly simple task to unhook and take them with you, unless that inner-tube/rubber-band fastener is a beast. You should find a way to market this item, because the concept is worth way more than $40!
/Did I mention Nice Job?
//Who out there is going to man up and attach Ammo Boxes? I promise I'll gush just as much...
///Umm, that didn't come out right...
**edit**
Holy crap this is an old thread...
/Did I mention Nice Job?
//Who out there is going to man up and attach Ammo Boxes? I promise I'll gush just as much...
///Umm, that didn't come out right...
**edit**
Holy crap this is an old thread...
Last edited by DanBraden; 10-16-10 at 02:05 PM.
10-16-10 | 10:50 PM
#37
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I love the DIY boxes but i'm not that handy.
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I'm looking for a hard shell pannier /box.
Has anyone had any experience with these?
https://americasbicycleshop.com/Bike-...B0027YX946.htm
or these?
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_200352
Are either one worth the effort and/or cash?
Thank you in advance
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I'm looking for a hard shell pannier /box.
Has anyone had any experience with these?
https://americasbicycleshop.com/Bike-...B0027YX946.htm
or these?
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_200352
Are either one worth the effort and/or cash?
Thank you in advance
10-18-10 | 06:08 AM
#38
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From: Pacific, WA
Bikes: Custom 531ST touring, Bilenky Viewpoint, Bianchi Milano, vintage Condor racer
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/page/find...20hooks&page=1 has a decent selection in the U.K., and ships to the U.S.
https://www.xxcycle.com/spare-parts-and-klickfix,en.php has them in France, and ships to the U.S.
10-18-10 | 06:10 AM
#39
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Bikes: Custom 531ST touring, Bilenky Viewpoint, Bianchi Milano, vintage Condor racer
I love the DIY boxes but i'm not that handy.
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I'm looking for a hard shell pannier /box.
Has anyone had any experience with these?
https://americasbicycleshop.com/Bike-...B0027YX946.htm
or these?
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_200352
Are either one worth the effort and/or cash?
Thank you in advance
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking for a hard shell pannier /box.
Has anyone had any experience with these?
https://americasbicycleshop.com/Bike-...B0027YX946.htm
or these?
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_200352
Are either one worth the effort and/or cash?
Thank you in advance
10-18-10 | 06:12 AM
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Bikes: Custom 531ST touring, Bilenky Viewpoint, Bianchi Milano, vintage Condor racer
I should see if I can find pictures -- my brother, a tool & die maker / machinist, has quick-release ammo cans on his commuter bike. Very secure, very durable.
08-26-11 | 05:44 AM
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Bikes: Old steel GT's, for touring and commuting
Being that my old panniers were beginning to fall apart, not weatherproof, generally unsatisfactory, and quality new panniers (like everything else cycling) are overpriced, I made my own.
Now that I have test flown them for a couple of weeks, and they work to my satisfaction, it's time to share.
Now part of this idea I did not plagiarize from one of our fellow forum members. I blatantly, outright, stole it. And I would be more than happy to give credit where credit is due, if I could only find that thread again. So if you see your ideas used here, sound off.
This photo shows the completed product.
Using this box:
https://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults
The hooks, bungee and and retaining line for the latch clips came off my old panniers. The hooks are attached with 3/16"x3/16-1/4" grip range aluminum pop rivets, and backed with back-up plates. These are the shortest rivets I would use for this, slightly longer would also work.
The latch clips are to keep the boxes from popping open and scattering their contents all over the road in case I do a surface density test of the pavement.
One on the bike.
Here you can see the rubber bands I made from an old inner tube around the hooks and rack to keep the panniers from bouncing off. A carryover from my old panniers. These clips from MEC would probably be better.
https://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1219620918746
You can also see how the 3", nylon, open base, cleat mates with the rack to keep the box held in tight to the rack. I attached the cleats using stainless screws, flat washers and locking nuts. Although stainless probably wasn't necessary for this. Each nut has an oversized flat washer, followed by a smaller flat washer under it.
The bungy attaches through the hollow base of the cleat, held in place by a simple stopper knot.
Rear view.
Showing the DOT C-2 reflective tape.
Front view.
The panniers are mounted so high so that the rivets don't interfere with the removable tray that goes in the top of these boxes.
They are mounted so high and far back on this bike to avoid heel strike when this rack and panniers are on my road bike.
Total cost was less than $20 apiece, $40 for the pair.
Now that I have test flown them for a couple of weeks, and they work to my satisfaction, it's time to share.
Now part of this idea I did not plagiarize from one of our fellow forum members. I blatantly, outright, stole it. And I would be more than happy to give credit where credit is due, if I could only find that thread again. So if you see your ideas used here, sound off.
This photo shows the completed product.
Using this box:
https://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults
The hooks, bungee and and retaining line for the latch clips came off my old panniers. The hooks are attached with 3/16"x3/16-1/4" grip range aluminum pop rivets, and backed with back-up plates. These are the shortest rivets I would use for this, slightly longer would also work.
The latch clips are to keep the boxes from popping open and scattering their contents all over the road in case I do a surface density test of the pavement.
One on the bike.
Here you can see the rubber bands I made from an old inner tube around the hooks and rack to keep the panniers from bouncing off. A carryover from my old panniers. These clips from MEC would probably be better.
https://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1219620918746
You can also see how the 3", nylon, open base, cleat mates with the rack to keep the box held in tight to the rack. I attached the cleats using stainless screws, flat washers and locking nuts. Although stainless probably wasn't necessary for this. Each nut has an oversized flat washer, followed by a smaller flat washer under it.
The bungy attaches through the hollow base of the cleat, held in place by a simple stopper knot.
Rear view.
Showing the DOT C-2 reflective tape.
Front view.
The panniers are mounted so high so that the rivets don't interfere with the removable tray that goes in the top of these boxes.
They are mounted so high and far back on this bike to avoid heel strike when this rack and panniers are on my road bike.
Total cost was less than $20 apiece, $40 for the pair.
Also, if you don't mind, what size you are? (To compare with my 6'2" frame and history of heel-strike issues)
Thanks!
02-07-12 | 08:54 PM
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Bikes: Co-Motion Cappuccino Tandem,'88 Bob Jackson Touring, Co-Motion Cascadia Touring, Open U.P., Ritchie Titanium Breakaway, Frances Cycles SmallHaul cargo bike. Those are the permanent ones; others wander in and out of the stable occasionally as well.
Very cool. Any idea how much they weigh? Pelican cases I thought were on the heavy side.
Has anyone tried a hard shell for serious touring instead of commuting?
Has anyone tried a hard shell for serious touring instead of commuting?
02-08-12 | 11:55 AM
#45
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The bass pro link is dead, but I spied these top loaders at cabelas if you want to do this project yourself on the cheap:
https://tinyurl.com/8xnlaa4
https://tinyurl.com/8xnlaa4
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02-08-12 | 12:10 PM
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02-08-12 | 01:55 PM
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Dwmckee, I used a kitty litter box on my 5 day tour , worked great. They are a little taller than those orange boxes, so no heel strike issues. Great to have a waterproof container on the trip. Made 2 hooks to hold onto the rack, strap around the side and one on the top. I used it on my left rear, so no der, issues. Small nit to pick, it was kind of tall, so had to be aware of dismounting bike to not kick it.
Recomendo, $ 0.00 dollars.
Recomendo, $ 0.00 dollars.
02-08-12 | 02:08 PM
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02-08-12 | 03:29 PM
#49
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I just might make a set of my own.
02-08-12 | 04:34 PM
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Even though I just got laid off, I find my lack of DIY skills to be even more depressing. One of these would come in handy as place to carry my padfolio around while on the job hunt.
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