Fred was an actual guy. Toured South America in sandals and ate fruit from the side of the road.

Uhhh, no. Moved away a little while ago and I couldn't be paid enough to move back...well, truthfully one could pay me enough to move back there but it would have to be income sufficient for a pad like one on that row of beach homes in San Clemente on N El Camino Real, with plenty of pocket money for vacation pads in Santa Barbara, Big Sur and/or Monterey, and Shelter Cove.

I lived in and around some of the best cycling that southern CA has to offer and it doesn't hold a candle to Denver.

ATL is flat but I loved the mups and muppets riding them out there. If you're bored riding anywhere, that's on you. I'm excited to ride no matter what the view.

Socal is kinda special because you can literally ride from a snow capped mountain down to the beach- in one ride, and enjoy a meal on the sand looking out at the Pacific Ocean- almost all of it from the bike path.

That's what they call them around here, too. Although the popular ones are just called "Trails."

But I'm at the intersection of the Virginia Capital Trail, the USBR 1, and USBR 176.

You would think that would make commuting by bike really easy, but no. To get from my house to downtown, the bike route goes from neighborhood roads out to a 4-lane highway with no bike lane and no shoulders. Because you have to get around the private golf courses somehow.

Almost: "Perineum".

Took 11 years to get that fixed.
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Meandering Unaware Pedestrians

Pffft. Tucson has a MUP that runs in a circle entirely around the city, and is ~140 miles long. Bonus: Most of the street crossings go under bridges, so traffic is almost a non-issue.

This is few miles of my daily commute, one lane on the right between lines of trees for walkers etc, the one on left closer to the wall is mostly used by cyclists, essentially making this mup a 4 Lane highway with hardly anyone else using it while I am riding there, over the wall on left is somehow another story, 4 lanes highway for cars and always packed

Don't Pffft too soon!

I did Tour De Tucson several years ago and don't remember the LOOP being around back then. So I looked it up, 120 miles complete, planned 131 miles. Though it is a loop, it is a series of trails that connect together.

If you are not familiar, the trails mentioned above can be connected as well. For instance, the San Gabriel trail that goes from the Mountains to the beach can be connected with other trails at a point locals call 4 corners. That is where the trail meets other sections of trail that connect to other trails that will also take you around other areas to the beach as well. Rio Hondo, LA River.

So in all fairness, the trails named differently can all be easily connected as The Loop in AZ.

Just one of the trails here, Santa Ana River Trail is under plan to connect the northern with the southern section and that alone will be about 100 miles. If one wants to throw in a 10 miles section of Pacific Coast Hwy, I'm guessing a 200 mile loop is possible.

Then named trails, though you understand as several different trails, are also connected like the Loop.

FTR, we do not cross traffic either. All of the crossings are underpasses as well here on our trails.

We have done rides from the mountains to the ocean, 80 miles round trip without crossing paths with a single car.

One great thing about our trails is that they take you to the ocean. Great bonus during the Summer as temps drop 16-20 degrees compared to the inland sections.



Contrary to other MUPs mentioned many times on forums, ours are not over crowded with skaters, joggers, pimps etc!

Mostly Urban Poseurs

Maze of Unpredictable People

Who's the path you need to know when you've got a place to go?
I'm the MUP! I'm the MUP!