Upgrade Placebo
#1
Upgrade Placebo
As stated in another thread, I just received a new pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and was told that I had to post a complete review since they were new. However, I don't really want to review the tires so much as the effect they have had on me. The various properties of these tires have been discussed and rediscussed so many times, I don't think you really want to hear about them again... do you????
Well, here is the thing... Everything I read about these tires said that they are heavy and they are going to slow me down. Fact: they are heavy. Fact: I am slow to begin with.
On my first ride with these tires (5 miles to make sure I hadn't pinched the tube somewhere) I felt faster, lighter, more agile, and more stable. The bike looked sexier. Now, I know that I definitely wasn't lighter (these tires ARE heavy). And I'm pretty sure I was still slow. But I felt faster and lighter. On my 2nd ride (today's commute) I still felt all of those things.
I know the bike certainly isn't lighter, and I'm fairly positive that we (my bike and me) aren't faster. I am, however, completely convinced of the improved sexiness of my bike though.
I think upgrading the tires was kinda like taking a sugar pill. They didn't actually make me lighter and faster, but I am weak minded enough to 'think' they did.
I can't wait to install my new fenders now... they've been sitting around for about a month now waiting for the new tires before I installed them. Once those bad boys are on I'll be the fastest, sexiest thing on the road (at least in my own mind).
Well, here is the thing... Everything I read about these tires said that they are heavy and they are going to slow me down. Fact: they are heavy. Fact: I am slow to begin with.
On my first ride with these tires (5 miles to make sure I hadn't pinched the tube somewhere) I felt faster, lighter, more agile, and more stable. The bike looked sexier. Now, I know that I definitely wasn't lighter (these tires ARE heavy). And I'm pretty sure I was still slow. But I felt faster and lighter. On my 2nd ride (today's commute) I still felt all of those things.
I know the bike certainly isn't lighter, and I'm fairly positive that we (my bike and me) aren't faster. I am, however, completely convinced of the improved sexiness of my bike though.
I think upgrading the tires was kinda like taking a sugar pill. They didn't actually make me lighter and faster, but I am weak minded enough to 'think' they did.
I can't wait to install my new fenders now... they've been sitting around for about a month now waiting for the new tires before I installed them. Once those bad boys are on I'll be the fastest, sexiest thing on the road (at least in my own mind).
#4
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Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Cambridge, Mass.
I *just* mounted a second Schwalbe Marathon on my commuter bike. I had been riding on a Marathon in the rear, plus a gum-sidewalled ancient road tire on the front wheel.
With a new wheel and matching tire up front, my bike's looking so much better! I am sure this cosmetic improvement will likewise lead to easier, more pleasant riding, regardless of the actual physics of it.
With a new wheel and matching tire up front, my bike's looking so much better! I am sure this cosmetic improvement will likewise lead to easier, more pleasant riding, regardless of the actual physics of it.
#5
I *just* mounted a second Schwalbe Marathon on my commuter bike. I had been riding on a Marathon in the rear, plus a gum-sidewalled ancient road tire on the front wheel.
With a new wheel and matching tire up front, my bike's looking so much better! I am sure this cosmetic improvement will likewise lead to easier, more pleasant riding, regardless of the actual physics of it.
With a new wheel and matching tire up front, my bike's looking so much better! I am sure this cosmetic improvement will likewise lead to easier, more pleasant riding, regardless of the actual physics of it.
#6
Maybe it is because you have a tire that will let you 'plow though' rather than dodge some of the road hazards that are out there. Less worries, happy riding and a feeling of speed. I know that when I ride my mountain bike commuter with Marathons I have less worries than my road bike with Pasela TGs.
Or perhaps you just have the tires fully inflated now?
Or perhaps you just have the tires fully inflated now?
#9
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 109
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From: Philadelphia, PA
No data, eh? Being an insane hoarder of data who records the time, speed, wind speed and air temperature of every commute, I could clearly quantify that moving from the 700x23 Michelin Lithion that my commuter was borrowing from my road bike to the 700x28 (actually 25) Forte GT2/k with Mr. Tuffy didn't just feel slow, it dropped me a good .8-1 mph.
#10
No data, eh? Being an insane hoarder of data who records the time, speed, wind speed and air temperature of every commute, I could clearly quantify that moving from the 700x23 Michelin Lithion that my commuter was borrowing from my road bike to the 700x28 (actually 25) Forte GT2/k with Mr. Tuffy didn't just feel slow, it dropped me a good .8-1 mph.
#11
In my case, the upgrade placebo wasn't tires, it is a new mountainbike handlebar for my old Schwinn LeTour. I just now finished the job of replacing the old dropbars with the new mtb handlebars and new cane creek crosstop brake levers. My Schinn has a big smile on her face.
I'll take pictures tomorrow when it's daylight...after my 21 mile commute. 
Ernest
I'll take pictures tomorrow when it's daylight...after my 21 mile commute. 
Ernest
#12
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41
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From: South Puget Sound
Bikes: Specialized Globe commuting hybrid
Woohoo! I am purchasing some slick new 700 x 36c tires to replace my 700 x 36c tires because of an upcoming trail needs. I wonder if the placebo will kick in for me too! :-)
#14
Here she is! Fresh from my weekend 27 mile commute. I finally got her just the way I like her. Replaced the old dropbars (which hurt my back) for the mtb handlebars, also Cane Creek brake levers, Serfas E-gel seat and comfy Bell comfort grips. NOW she needs new tires! 
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#15
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,559
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From: The 'Wack, BC, Canada
Bikes: Norco (2), Miyata, Canondale, Soma, Redline
Don't underestimate the placebo effect. I KNOW that my truck and motorcycles ALWAYS drive better, corner more easily and make the sun shine after changing the oil and washing them. Even the radio sounds better....
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Here she is! Fresh from my weekend 27 mile commute. I finally got her just the way I like her. Replaced the old dropbars (which hurt my back) for the mtb handlebars, also Cane Creek brake levers, Serfas E-gel seat and comfy Bell comfort grips. NOW she needs new tires! 
Ernest

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