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Old 10-21-08 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
Pearl Izumi Gavia Plus tights
Wool socks
Fleece lined waterproof booties
Wool undershirt
Thermal long-sleeve jersey
Fleece beanie helmet liner
Pearl Izumi Cyclone gloves

Up here in Seattle we don't get a whole lot of snow, but it rains all winter and the temperature is routinely in the mid 30s. I wear the setup I listed above, and that's good (for me) for anything down to around 25 degrees.
I thought it never rains in Seattle just mists :-).........a transplant from Seattle says that when she live in Seattle she didn't tan but rusted :-).........

I wear a similar setup as you.

First, I find riding in the cold rain easier than warmer rain as I have found, despite all the new techno gear out there, that breathability and rain protection are mutually exclusive. So in the cold rain, I batten down the hatches and wear rainPROOF gear and warm clothes and am happy.

I am mostly concerned about seeing and being seen so I will pack more headlight power and more reflective gear and more blinking rear lights..........

Warmth:
Head: Wool toque
Wool shirt
Yellow LL Bean shell (39 dollar cheapo Goretex knockoff) with pasted on reflective strips
Tri shorts
Campmor cheapo rain pants (on sale for 10 buck)
wool socks
goretex liners
spd compatible bike shoes
Kinco insulated work gloves (the orange ones with the reflective strip).

That is it......and when it snows and is colder add a layer on the top and switch to bike pants and add a bootie...........below zero I have switched to larger bike spd compatible bike shoes with a sorel liner inside (prevents the cold pedal and clip transfering the cold to the bottom of my foot)......cold hands and cold feet are what I work hard to prevent...........

I am lucky-get to wear scrubs at work so all I do is hang up the wet stuff and change into my work clothes...........
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Old 10-21-08 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MMACH 5
Have you tried sealskins gloves? I haven't used the gloves, but the socks really are waterproof.
No, but I did read up on reviews of them last year when I was trying to figure out a solution for not being able to find any cycling gloves that had reviews indicating they stayed waterproof through riding in the rain for a few hours. The reviews of the Sealskins were pretty mixed; a lot of people said they leaked or weren't particularly waterproof.

An acquaintance recommended the OR Prophets. Right on the mark.

Originally Posted by powerhouse
I generally don't like riding in the rain. Once I'm on the road, I don't mind it there's a brief squall I must pass through to get where I'm going. But I don't make a habit of it. More often than not, I've ended up paying the consequences of getting hypothermia or worse. At other times, problems developed with my bicycle after it was exposed to "a little foreign matter" after commutes in the rain.

For the most part, I avoid commutes in the rain as much as possible.
No offense, but that rustling you hear is all 8,000 of Seattle's year round bicycle commuters chuckling at your post.
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Old 10-21-08 | 03:58 PM
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my cold & (light) rain outfit goes something like this:

* wool socks
* wool knickers (ibex)
* wool base layer (ibex)
* wool short-sleeve jersey
* wool long-sleeve jersey over that (ibex)
* sealskinz gloves
* wool cap for the ears
* bandana for the neck & chin

if it's raining hard, which it does do sometimes around here, i add:

* rain pants
* rain jacket
* cycling cap
* plastic bags under booties on the feet
* a dose of HTFU, just for pcad!

my sealskinz gloves are good, but they did get soaked recently on a 3+ hour ride in the rain. still, they are the best gloves i've bought to date, and want to pick up some socks too.

oh, and i have full fenders on my bike, which helps a ton in terms of road-spray.
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Old 10-21-08 | 04:53 PM
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This season will be me first attempt at all-weather commuting.

So, can I ask the experts here: For those of you who go without waterproofs and prioritize remaining warm, if not dry, how do you get your stuff to dry out before the return trip home? Or do you just put stuff on wet?

My strategy, such as it is for now, is to keep my hands and feet dry (with Sealskinz or equivalent) and keep the rest of my body warm, if not dry, with fleece/wool stuff. I'm still pondering the whole waterproof jacket/pants thing, but I'm not sure what will actually work for me. That said, I'm pretty sure I don't want a wet crotch, so I'm considering surgically altering some rain pants into rain knickers.

It shouldn't get much below 45 where I am, so I don't have to deal with ice/snow and the attendant complications.
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Old 10-21-08 | 05:18 PM
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For those of you who go without waterproofs and prioritize remaining warm, if not dry, how do you get your stuff to dry out before the return trip home? Or do you just put stuff on wet?
i hang my wet clothes in varioius places around the office.
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Old 10-21-08 | 07:21 PM
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Man I hate peer pressure! You guys suck!

Fine, I just went out and lubed my chain and put plastic over my sponge of a saddle (recumbent) for the 38F and light showers commute tomorrow morning.

My past commuter was equipped with the works including fenders. This spring I went to the dark side and purchased a recumbent and have no desire to ride a wedgie again. Therefore, I stripped my commuter down and gave it too my wife. I only have one bike that I ride and I don’t want to put fenders on it, so I told myself that I was going to be a fair weather commuter... Based on conflicting schedules I can only ride to work on Mondays and Wednesdays leaving me the option of cutting my mileage way down or sucking it up and riding in the wet.

This thread came at a good time to convince me to go for it… but I am dreading it greatly! However, as modernjess said:

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My expectations for enjoyment of the ride are zero so It's usually turns out to be better than I imagine before setting out.
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Old 10-21-08 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mattm
i hang my wet clothes in varioius places around the office.
Same here. We have a LiteSpeed in the storage area that has permanently bonded with its bike hook, so I just hang my wet and/or sweaty clothes from it using clothes hangers, set a box fan next to it, and by the time I'm ready to go home, they will certainly be dry. LiteSpeeds are great!

Sopping-wet shoes are a possible exception, especially if you can't fully open them up to let air inside (Specialized Defroster, for example). I'm told that stuffing them with newspaper will hasten drying, though.
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Old 10-21-08 | 08:13 PM
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Sopping-wet shoes are a possible exception, especially if you can't fully open them up to let air inside (Specialized Defroster, for example). I'm told that stuffing them with newspaper will hasten drying, though.
yup, i had to do that on monday - forgot to take out the inserts though, so they were still a little damp in the afternoon. thank goodness for thick wool socks i guess!
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Old 10-21-08 | 08:21 PM
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Rain is not a big deal, but freezing rain sucks - when ice forms on all exposed surfaces gears/brakes/and pedals get really slick.

You basically have to keep braking constantly and changing gears constantly to keep moving parts free of ice, not to mention the bike abuse from salt.

This being said - I have ridden several times in freezing rain - I try and avoid it, but sometimes there is no choice but to ride in these sub-optimal conditions. I just go really slow.
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Old 10-21-08 | 09:45 PM
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I'm in Seattle. If I didn't ride in the rain, I'd only ride a few months out of the year.

I've tried lots of different gloves and waterproof clothes and, for that matter, many other accessories for my ride. None have really stood up to an entire season very well. These days I have glove/shoe driers both at home and at work. Those actually dry things out.

Late last winter I switched to a recumbent. This fall I added a fairing. The rides in both wind and rain so far this year have been *wonderful* compared to my rides on both the Diamond Frame and the recumbent without the fairing. Even so, riding 19 miles each way I'm going to get wet.

As far as the clothes are concerned, I also hang them up in the office. I have 4 coat hangers and each gets an item. Two hang on the door and the other two off the white board.

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Old 10-22-08 | 03:07 AM
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I am a novice when it comes to riding in the rain. I did get caught at a LBS a couple months ago during a downpour and because of a prior commitment, I ventured out into it.

My question is how do you keep your feet dry. It was warm out so I guess I didn't mind my hands and the rest of my body getting wet, but my SIDI SPD shoes seemed to fill up like buckets. From reading the thread, I assume there are some "booties" that are recommended for riding in rain, or are there better shoes out there that allow the water to drain?

Thanks.
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Old 10-22-08 | 05:45 AM
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Most people have mentioned proper gear which is important. I have a few variations all of which have been covered here. I think almost equally important is the effort you put out on the bike. During cold rain conditions I focus on keeping my cadence and heart rate up at a higher than normal level. Helps keep my core teperature up.
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Old 10-22-08 | 06:01 AM
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I don't mind mother nature throwing two obstacles in my path but I draw the line at three. If its raining and cold I will ride but if its raining, cold and windy; I'm driving.
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Old 10-22-08 | 06:31 AM
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I am going to agree with the smokers on this one. For me it is a combination of factors but I just don't feel safe on the route I take in freezing rain. The risks just pile up.
If I hadn't ridden my bike on that day, I would have worked from home. It would have been TOTALLY crazy to try to drive a car in that.

My route is largely rural, and on the trip in to work in the morning, before I hit town I typically only see 3 or 4 cars, all going the same way I am. If I'm really concerned about the cars not being able to maintain control, there's a back road that I can take which has very little traffic, and lands me about 1/4 mile from work. I have only ever taken it 3 or 4 times.
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Old 10-22-08 | 07:00 AM
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Ugh, I'll ride into quite cold temps but cold rain is a big turnoff. Lately, in fact, I've wussed out and rarely ride in any rain but that's mostly b/c I don't like to clean the bike after the ride. Anyway, I've never been a fan of cold rain. I don't believe there's a truly waterproof option for hands and feet -- a dealbreaker for me as my extremities easily get cold.
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Old 10-22-08 | 09:26 AM
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After posting on this thread yesterday I had to put my money where my mouth is this morning. 38F and rain with cold blustery headwind. I could have gotten a ride from my wife, but I put the rain gear on rode and and I'm glad I did, though I didn't see many others today. I'll admit it did feel like I was pedaling squares for about the first 10 minutes though.
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Old 10-22-08 | 10:03 AM
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Yesterday night, after having shivered for almost two hours in a pretty wet rugby practice, I had to get on my bike and pedaled home... It was hard enough on the mental (not mentally prepared right now for that november weather!) that I *almost* had a doubt about commuting with my bike this morning as the weather was getting better. So last night it was maybe 1.5 degrees C, with a howling steady wind of 30 km/h and gusts of 50-60 km/h. Headwind of course! On top of it, freezing rain/wet snow/hail mix. Let's say that with my "legs" (you know, these half thights you can add to a cycling short), my damp rugby socks in my shoes, my little xc summer gloves, I had some visions of fuzzy clothing. But I was okay with my head (I had my little lycra toque... a bit too windy though for complete "ice cream headache" protection), and torso (softshell + underarmour type of baselayer.... great for fall rugby!). I like to pedal with my softshell, unless it is REALLY pouring rain like crazy. I prefer getting a little wet rather than too hot with the GTX shell. Booties and good gloves would have been mandatory that night! My toes and little fingers were happy to get in the shower after a big hot chocolate!

This morning, temp was almost the same (2 deg, wind of 35km/h with 45 km/h gusts, but tailwind), but no rain and even a little sun (more sun right now!). I donned my wool socks in my shoes, my fuzzy lycra thights, same gloves (hoping it won't rain again until when I get home), my softshell with light underwear, little toque... perfect! I'm just hoping the wind will lessen tonight, and snow will wait a little longer 'cause I took the speedbike with no fenders this morning :-S

Last thing: I do like to wear winter spd type shoes when it's snowing heavy and wet, and for colder, drier temps.... better than hustling with booties!
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Old 10-22-08 | 10:53 AM
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After posting on this thread yesterday I had to put my money where my mouth is this morning. 38F and rain with cold blustery headwind. I could have gotten a ride from my wife, but I put the rain gear on rode and and I'm glad I did, though I didn't see many others today. I'll admit it did feel like I was pedaling squares for about the first 10 minutes though.
Nasty days in Seattle, especially in November, December, and January, I will have days I ride to work along the major bike thoroughfare of the Burke-Gilman Trail and never see another soul.

I love that.
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Old 10-22-08 | 11:20 AM
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Ive ridden in cold wet, close to freezing. It is the worst combination and that time I used a cheap, yellow pvc non-breathable waterproof with a few wooly jumpers and some hiking boots.
Ive gone abit more hi-tech with paramo waterproofs, sealskins. Im not impressed with my featherweight pertex pants, my older heavier guage pertex was pretty waterproof for years. Im still old-school with gloves, woolen ones get wet but not cold.
The most interesting tech of recent times has to be nano-technology permanent waterproofing of leather. This was developed for the military and the first civillian hiking boots are showing up. It is not a membrane or surface treatment, it coveres every fibre and is really permanent. Just need a lightweight, slim boot without bulky padding.
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Old 10-22-08 | 11:36 AM
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One thing I have started to do is to slip a plastic sandwich bag over my stocking feet before putting my shoes on. If my socks are dry I can put up with lots of cold on my legs.
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Old 10-22-08 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MMACH 5
Have you tried sealskins gloves? I haven't used the gloves, but the socks really are waterproof.
I too am interested in these too. Not only how waterproof are they, but how warm? I kayak too and am looking for some gloves to do double-purpose for the warmer months. My hands get cold very easily in the rain.


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For those of you who go without waterproofs and prioritize remaining warm, if not dry, how do you get your stuff to dry out before the return trip home? Or do you just put stuff on wet?
If you have some sort of facilities room with pumps, ducts, etc. near your workplace, try to get access to it. they are usually poorly-ventilated and toasty warm from the equipment. Your clothes will end up dry and warm! (I'm disappointed that I can't do that this winter, they swapped the locks on that room's door.)

As for shoes, try inverting them over a forced hot air vent if your workplace has them. If your co-workers complain you can add some potpourri!
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Old 10-22-08 | 12:08 PM
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As for shoes, try inverting them over a forced hot air vent if your workplace has them. If your co-workers complain you can add some potpourri!
Not as good, but helpful, is to stuff your shoes with newspaper. With my mtb/commuter SPD shoes when they would be completely soaked last winter, before I had full fenders, stuffing with newspaper and changing out once during the day would result in dry shoes most days for the ride home.

Putting on wet clothes for a wet ride home sucks.
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Old 10-22-08 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelW
The most interesting tech of recent times has to be nano-technology permanent waterproofing of leather. This was developed for the military and the first civillian hiking boots are showing up. It is not a membrane or surface treatment, it coveres every fibre and is really permanent. Just need a lightweight, slim boot without bulky padding.
Looks interesting and not terribly overpriced considering name brand boots often cost that much anyway.
Care free. Ride 99% of time. An actual ice storm will cause me to consider carpooling. I'm really liking wool socks now and plan to try other wool garments.
Usual gear: rain pants, rain jacket, helmet cover.
Hands: if warm they get wet, have some new gloves and will see how they work this winter. The heavy fleece ones I used last year in the winter took a long time to dry and were wet from the inside. The very light weatherproof ones weren't.
Dry feet: For warm weather I gave up and use sandals in the rain. This winter, trying waterproof, lightly thiinsulated (200gr) Sorel slip-on shoes and purchased some thinsulated (400gr) slip-on leather work boots (Wellington style) for snow. The Sorels with wool socks and rain pants kept everything south of the border dry. The boots are going to be sno-sealed. Biggest complaint about winter riding is the prep time. If the boots don't work out, will use the NEOS overshoes I used last winter.

Drying wet gear: if saturated I stick it in front of a fan otherwise drape it over the bike.
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Old 10-22-08 | 12:48 PM
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Yesterday I rode into work expecting it to rain - so in my packing, I packed a rain jacket and pants, the kind you would use going to a football game. The ride home was fun - my feet got soaked and my head was dry, but my sweat-jacket hood was soaked since I had my helmet over it. This morning I was hoping to ride in the rain again, but I really don't like lighting popping around - not a lot of fun getting struck by lighting on the way to work. People at work are beginning to think I'm crazy...wait till it's 15 degrees out and I'm pedaling into work.
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