Why hate on Segways?
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Nope.
The range would be useless to me.
Range: The pSeries Segway scooter range on a single battery charge is 6-10 miles, the Segway iSeries range is 8-12 miles. The Q Electric Chariot's range is an impressive 15-18 miles.
https://urbanscooters.com/cgi-bin/urb...q-scooter.html
The range would be useless to me.
Range: The pSeries Segway scooter range on a single battery charge is 6-10 miles, the Segway iSeries range is 8-12 miles. The Q Electric Chariot's range is an impressive 15-18 miles.
https://urbanscooters.com/cgi-bin/urb...q-scooter.html
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I don't hate them. But I've only ever seen one sitting at a rental place one time. I've never seen one actually moving.
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I don't think "we" do, as a group. I know that for me, I just don't have experience with Segways in the mix of traffic: we've got all kinds of motor vehicles, cars, peds, motorcycles, mopeds, scooters, the occasional inline skater (yeah, in the street), the occasional horse, and of course bicycles, but I don't think I've ever seen a Segway in the street.
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That application (somewhat) makes sense - after all, it's hard to aim and fire a gun while riding a bicycle. Commuting, on the other hand, makes much less sense on a segway, but that doesn't necessarily imply hatred.
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I don't like them because idiot gubmint officials think they are cool and have thrown away our tax dollars on them. I am pretty sure that the large majority have been purchased by government agencies. Few people are stupid enough to drop their own money on them.
Cops use them for short range patrols where a bike would make wayyyy more sense. Bikes are a small fraction of the cost, faster, can carry more gear and I would guess, more comfortable to ride since you aren't standing all day long.
This idiot that invented it, thought his reputation, slick marketing and lobbyists would make it a success.
If I ever find out my town has wasted money on one, I will go down to the first selectman's office and punch him in the nose.
Cops use them for short range patrols where a bike would make wayyyy more sense. Bikes are a small fraction of the cost, faster, can carry more gear and I would guess, more comfortable to ride since you aren't standing all day long.
This idiot that invented it, thought his reputation, slick marketing and lobbyists would make it a success.
If I ever find out my town has wasted money on one, I will go down to the first selectman's office and punch him in the nose.
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"I roll on, my segway, and everybody says I'm white and nerdy. White and nerdy"
Because Weird Al said so, that's why.
D
So why do we (most bike commuters) hate on Segways so much?
D
#32
But for crying out loud they're steering with their knees. They look like little boys who have to go to the bathroom. How will they inspire fear and dominate?
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#33
Nope.
The range would be useless to me.
Range: The pSeries Segway scooter range on a single battery charge is 6-10 miles, the Segway iSeries range is 8-12 miles. The Q Electric Chariot's range is an impressive 15-18 miles.
https://urbanscooters.com/cgi-bin/urb...q-scooter.html
The range would be useless to me.
Range: The pSeries Segway scooter range on a single battery charge is 6-10 miles, the Segway iSeries range is 8-12 miles. The Q Electric Chariot's range is an impressive 15-18 miles.
https://urbanscooters.com/cgi-bin/urb...q-scooter.html
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. If significant numbers used sidewalks it's likely the city would end up clearing the sidewalks.
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I know of some vets who have lost one or both legs from war injuries who use Segways to improve their mobility. It's painful for many those guys to walk any distance, especially in the first year of using artificial limbs. I am sure that the criticisms of Segways I have read about here are not directed towards users who have genuine physical limitations. Most of the guys that I have spoke with that use Segways for mobility prefer them to wheelchairs because they have better visibility and it's actually easier for them than getting in and out of a wheelchair.
Now, debating the use of Segways by able bodied citizens is a different thing. It's a free country, and if somebody wants to use one on a sidewalk or pedestrian zone, and it's not crowded and a hazard to pedestrians, who cares? I have seen a few here in Orange County, so few that they attract attention. The Sheriff guys at John Wayne airport buzz up and down the aisles on Segways, and I think it's a bit for show as they like their toys.
Now, debating the use of Segways by able bodied citizens is a different thing. It's a free country, and if somebody wants to use one on a sidewalk or pedestrian zone, and it's not crowded and a hazard to pedestrians, who cares? I have seen a few here in Orange County, so few that they attract attention. The Sheriff guys at John Wayne airport buzz up and down the aisles on Segways, and I think it's a bit for show as they like their toys.
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When used on sidewalks, they tend not to play well with others. When walkers pass each other on a narrow sidewalk, they turn a bit sideways to accommodate each other. These things can't do that, so they tend not to mix well on sidewalks in cities (which is where they're generally used). Not cool.
On the road - I don't really have a strong feeling about it if they can at least cruise at 10-15mph.
I personally have a bit of disdain for them because they're the ultimate in laziness. Really, now humanity is too lazy to walk? Because as mentioned, walking is about the only thing they replace well. What, rent-a-cops aren't fat enough yet that they need to cut out anything that might be accidentally construed as exercise? And these things aren't cheap, so in a lot of cases we have a lot of taxpayer dollars spent so somebody doesn't have to walk or ride a bike.
As mentioned, of course, using them for the handicapped is a whole other story.
On the road - I don't really have a strong feeling about it if they can at least cruise at 10-15mph.
I personally have a bit of disdain for them because they're the ultimate in laziness. Really, now humanity is too lazy to walk? Because as mentioned, walking is about the only thing they replace well. What, rent-a-cops aren't fat enough yet that they need to cut out anything that might be accidentally construed as exercise? And these things aren't cheap, so in a lot of cases we have a lot of taxpayer dollars spent so somebody doesn't have to walk or ride a bike.
As mentioned, of course, using them for the handicapped is a whole other story.
#39
Yes, but even a free country has to have laws that regulate how streets and sidewalks are used. A sidewalk doesn't have to be crowded to make Segway use hazardous to pedestrians. Even if only one person is walking on a sidewalk, that person can be hurt if a Segway hits him/her. There are Segway users here in Traverse City, and they zip around pretty fast on the downtown sidewalks.
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I have seen Segways in use by security in Millenium Park in downtown Chicago, and have ridden one for a short time. They are actually kind of fun as a novelty.
I also think they are in an awkward position between a pedestrian (sidewalk) and a vehicle (road), but too fast for one and too slow for the other.
I have also heard that without suspension, and having rather hard wheels they get tiring to stand on after a while. Remember that you can't shift around on them too much to stretch because your body weight affects the steering and speed.
I think security might be the best niche for most of their use. However, if someone goes this direction, I think the T3 Motion might often be more practical than the Segway. T3 Motions are like 3-wheeled electric ATV's. T3's are a little bigger than Segways, but they seem more stable, go faster, can carry additional supplies, seem a little more comfortable for the rider, and have better lighting.
Yes, T3's might encourage laziness, and yes, a bike might often serve the purpose (for security) better, but they could be useful in certain niches. Here's a picture:
I also think they are in an awkward position between a pedestrian (sidewalk) and a vehicle (road), but too fast for one and too slow for the other.
I have also heard that without suspension, and having rather hard wheels they get tiring to stand on after a while. Remember that you can't shift around on them too much to stretch because your body weight affects the steering and speed.
I think security might be the best niche for most of their use. However, if someone goes this direction, I think the T3 Motion might often be more practical than the Segway. T3 Motions are like 3-wheeled electric ATV's. T3's are a little bigger than Segways, but they seem more stable, go faster, can carry additional supplies, seem a little more comfortable for the rider, and have better lighting.
Yes, T3's might encourage laziness, and yes, a bike might often serve the purpose (for security) better, but they could be useful in certain niches. Here's a picture:
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#41
I was googling this thing and apparently it costs $6200 - why exactly should an electric tricycle cost more than a segway?
btw: https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/477668-look-how-cops-roll-mup-my-town.html
btw: https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/477668-look-how-cops-roll-mup-my-town.html
#42
Chicago is promoting Segway tours of downtown. I have seen pictures and promo's of this, but not an actual tourist doing it. But then, I don't spend all that much time down there either.
They are also promoting bicycle rentals, and the same applies. Nice glass buildings full of bikes, but I have never seen a customer actually go in and rent one during the 60 minutes or so I have been near enough to observe one.
They are also promoting bicycle rentals, and the same applies. Nice glass buildings full of bikes, but I have never seen a customer actually go in and rent one during the 60 minutes or so I have been near enough to observe one.
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Segways are carfree devices that probably have a mininal impact on the environment. They seem to mix pretty well with other modes of transportation. The inventor, Dean Kamen, seems like a sincere and caring guy--even if he does drink his own pee.
So why do we (most bike commuters) hate on Segways so much?
So why do we (most bike commuters) hate on Segways so much?
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Manufacturer and inventor of Segway announced well in advance of bringing them to market that they were the be-all, most ultimate, earth moving invention for people of all time (or something to that effect). Then the world got a look at them and hasn't stopped laughing.
They're here on the Mall every day. I actually want to try a tour. Effectively as fast as a typical bike tour (occasionally casual bikers get very slow when they try to stick together), don't make the tourists sweat as much, and still cover a lot of ground.
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Chicago is promoting Segway tours of downtown. I have seen pictures and promo's of this, but not an actual tourist doing it. But then, I don't spend all that much time down there either.
They are also promoting bicycle rentals, and the same applies. Nice glass buildings full of bikes, but I have never seen a customer actually go in and rent one during the 60 minutes or so I have been near enough to observe one.
They are also promoting bicycle rentals, and the same applies. Nice glass buildings full of bikes, but I have never seen a customer actually go in and rent one during the 60 minutes or so I have been near enough to observe one.
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Don't hate them...except when they are misused on pedestrian sidewalks. They are a niche item and a fairly expensive one at that. Large airport near me uses them for security details, probably not a bad thing given how sprawled out it is.
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Dean Kamen?
The man whose Slingshot water purification system has pretty much perfected the Stirling engine, a no-emission power source and can make pure medical-grade water out of anything wet (even urine or toxic waste, with no filters to change or chemicals to add and no noise) and can produce a million liters of water in a thousand days with no human intervention and could save countless lives in Third World countries?
The man whose company, Deka Research & Development, is working on prosthetic limbs that include a hand/arm combo that allows the user as complicated as operating an electric drill or as delicate as picking up a grape with its fingers all the while being light (because it's made of titanium) and comfortable for the user to wear?
The man whose robotics competition aimed at schools, called FIRST, which handed out $10 million in scholarships last year alone?
That guy?
Yeah, he's clearly an idiot.
The man whose Slingshot water purification system has pretty much perfected the Stirling engine, a no-emission power source and can make pure medical-grade water out of anything wet (even urine or toxic waste, with no filters to change or chemicals to add and no noise) and can produce a million liters of water in a thousand days with no human intervention and could save countless lives in Third World countries?
The man whose company, Deka Research & Development, is working on prosthetic limbs that include a hand/arm combo that allows the user as complicated as operating an electric drill or as delicate as picking up a grape with its fingers all the while being light (because it's made of titanium) and comfortable for the user to wear?
The man whose robotics competition aimed at schools, called FIRST, which handed out $10 million in scholarships last year alone?
That guy?
Yeah, he's clearly an idiot.
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MadCapsule,
Didn't he also invent the insulin pump? The man is massively smart. He thought we would block off downtown areas from cars and everyone would ride segways. I feel he underestimated the power of the car in our culture. I like segways (a little) but I feel they should go in the bike lane, not on the side walk.
Didn't he also invent the insulin pump? The man is massively smart. He thought we would block off downtown areas from cars and everyone would ride segways. I feel he underestimated the power of the car in our culture. I like segways (a little) but I feel they should go in the bike lane, not on the side walk.




