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Old 04-10-09, 12:18 PM
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Commuting wheelset

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I'm looking to upgrade the wheelset on bianchi. I've had to true the wheels twice in a week. Cheapy wheelset. Any ideas on a good wheelset that can take a good beating? I was looking at some cxp 33's. Are they any good? Anyone have any suggestions?
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32 spoke CXP33 rims on a good hub like Centaur or Ultegra would be bombproof. They could take anything you throw at them.

You could also look at Open Pros if you like a box-shaped rim.
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Mavic Ksyrium bit over 400bucks. little heavy semi aero, but bullet proof
https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=W1003

neuvation m28 aero3 about 220bucks lighter, handbuilt, bulletproof.
https://www.neuvationcycling.com/wheels.html

soul 4.0 ~400bucks handbuilt, nice aero clinchers at 41mm and decent weight
https://www.bikesoul.com/s4.html

Forté Titan slightly cheaper version of neuvation. not sure if they are handbuilt or not. still a decent wheel.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5320


probably the best wheel if you don't care about weight and aero, but rather bombproofing is to go down a wheel shop and have they built you a pair of open pro rims with ultegra hubs(105 is fine if your cheap) with 32/34 butted spokes, 3x lacing and brass side nipples. will cost you 300 on up, depending on the shop.

shimano whr550 is a decent trainning/commute wheel
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Originally Posted by weavers

probably the best wheel if you don't care about weight and aero, but rather bombproofing is to go down a wheel shop and have they built you a pair of open pro rims with ultegra hubs(105 is fine if your cheap) with 32/34 butted spokes, 3x lacing and brass side nipples. will cost you 300 on up, depending on the shop.
Or just go to Performance and buy them for $229.

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...TOKEN=33712452
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I was having trouble breaking spokes and constant truing on my Jamis Coda, so I got 36 spoke Velocity Dyads, haven't had to true since nor have I broken a spoke.
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I just built a new wheelset for a commuter bike that I am having built for me.

Rims are Mavic A719 36 spoke for both front and rear

Front hub is a Schmidt Dynohub.

Rear Hub is a Phil Wood.

I expect this to be about as bombproof as you can get.
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Originally Posted by sauerwald
I just built a new wheelset for a commuter bike that I am having built for me.

Rims are Mavic A719 36 spoke for both front and rear

Front hub is a Schmidt Dynohub.

Rear Hub is a Phil Wood.

I expect this to be about as bombproof as you can get.
Nope. Add in a set of DT Alpine III spokes. Now you're as bombproof as it gets...without going to 48 spoke wheels
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I have two sets of Mavic Open Pro's

One set laced to 105 hubs and another laced to phil woods.

Personally i love the Open Pro's, i've never have had to true them yet.

Hub wise i feel the 105's are perfectly fine and rugged for me, but i do have to say my phil wood hubs are like butter, sweet sweet butter.
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You can pick up a 36-spoke Salsa Delgado front wheel from Bikeman for $63.
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The stock wheel on my Giant Cypress was crud and I broke 20+ spokes in the first year. I originally rebuilt the wheel myself with a Mavic MA3 and DT butted spokes, and that lasted great, 4 years and 14000 miles including 40% of those miles were on gravel roads, and it was dead true to the last. But when the axle broke last fall, I just bought a new wheel. It has a Shimano DX hub and a Salsa Delgado rim, 36 spoke. Seems pretty bulletproof. It's got about 1600 miles on it and is still dead true, I didn't touch it from the factory.

The front is an Alex Adventurer rim and a Deore XT rim, I built it to take disc brakes. It also seems pretty tough, but I didn't even have trouble with the stock wheel on this bike; perhaps due to the suspension fork taking the brunt of the abuse.
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I have been riding my deep V's for about 2-3 years, and hit a curb and a car, to this day I have not had to fix a thing. Great rims. Velocity is the company that makes them. I have heard good things about the arrowheads as well, by the same company. good luck.
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Originally Posted by CCrew
Or just go to Performance and buy them for $229.

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...TOKEN=33712452
That's what I did. Instant gratification.

I didn't record the tension immediately after I got the, though I wish I had.

However, after having ridden them for a few months and having laterally trued them a few times, I have checked the tension of the rear wheel and it's within acceptable range.

Not lightweight but they seem durable and the Open Pro rim makes mounting 700x25 wire bead Conti Gators really easy.
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Get a DT Swiss TK 7.1 rim and any mid-level hub (Ultegra, 105, XT). Have a wheelbuilder hand build them with 14/15 double butted spokes. 32 or 36 spokes will be fine. I carry 50 lb loads on 32 hole wheels with no trouble and I weigh 215. Make sure your wheelbuilder uses a tensioneter! If you're heavy stay away from open pros, they are a light road rim.
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I have the ceramic open pro's laced to 36h phil high flange hubs. Two years and counting - not a single problem, they're very resilient.
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If "cheapy" but you also want a good wheelset, I would think about some of the wheels at Harris cyclery
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/wheels/622.html

They have a wheelset at $119. "Shimano 8-/9-/10-speed Shimano Alivio cassette hub sets, laced into Sun CR18 700C double-wall rims, with 36 stainless steel spokes." The rim is very acceptable and the hub is probably great too. But before I would buy it, I'd ask what the spokes are.

But if I was feeling the need to spend a little more, the Mavic rim/Deore hub at $219 sounds better. "WE634 Premium 8-/9-/10-speed Shimano Deore/Mavic 36 Spoke Touring/Hybrid Wheelsets $219.95 pair!" These actually specify the spokes as DT...

Are your hubs 135 mm or 130? You can also find 130s on this page

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I have the same dilemma. I need a wheelset for commuting so my aksiums wont get banged up. but im confused about how you guys mentioned the kyseriums as commuter wheels. would you then concider my aksiums as commuter wheels as well?
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Not sure what my hubs are i'll check. My bike is an older bianchi c2c I think it's in the 2005ish range i can't find it the bianchi website. i'll look around for it.
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I have a pair of 32 hole CXPs. Front hub is XT disc (6bolt) and rear is a Rohloff. Wheelsmith SS14 spokes. I did pop a few rear spokes at the nipple one after a good hit with high pressure 32 tires. The front was trued once for a small hop around 3K mikes. I'm approaching 5K miles now.
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Originally Posted by TheRealNicola
Not sure what my hubs are i'll check. My bike is an older bianchi c2c I think it's in the 2005ish range i can't find it the bianchi website. i'll look around for it.
I don't see it. https://www.bianchiusa.com/528.html

2007?? https://www.bianchiusa.com/07-bicycles/07-c2c.html
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It looks like the Via Nirone, but my model doesn't have the sloped frame. But it's the same price range as the Nirone. I know it's some sort of Nirone though.
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I just got a pair of Mavic Askium wheelset for about $250. ery aero (for me) anyway). They feel nice and tight.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Nope. Add in a set of DT Alpine III spokes. Now you're as bombproof as it gets...without going to 48 spoke wheels
This is the exact rig I got for my touring bike. Dt Alpine 3 spokes, Phil Wood 48h 9 sp hub w/Sun CR-18 48h rims...Mavic has stopped making the A719 in 48h, otherwise... PW 32h hub/rims DT AP3 spokes for the front. Oh yeah, the rear is a 4x and the frt is 3x. I'm set. Pricey, but worth it. SMP 28mm are the tires.

Doing the 'Grand Tour' of Ireland and Wales over six weeks next year...oops, sorry for the tread drift. I'll stop now.
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anybody use a light wheel up front and a stronger wheel in back? I heard the back takes the most punishment and carries the most weight
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
anybody use a light wheel up front and a stronger wheel in back? I heard the back takes the most punishment and carries the most weight
The back carries more weight, but it’s the front that hits the potholes other and obstacles harder.
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Originally Posted by knucklesandwich
The back carries more weight, but it’s the front that hits the potholes other and obstacles harder.
But with the weight predominately on the back + the force from pedaling it's the rear that takes the most abuse. Front will *usually* (key word here) deflect.
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