whats the difference between Hybrid/Commuter
#26
I can't say I like the term "commuter bike" at all. It implies that there's a certain type of bike that should be used for commuting. The best bike for a given commute and commuter could be anything from a folder, to a mountain bike, to a cross bike, or a dutch style bike. And sure, maybe even a hybrid
#28
Ahh.... some folks drive their Porsche 911 to work every day. So is it a sports car or commuter? who cares. It's one friggin' fast commuter to me one way or other. A Trek Madone can be a commuter too. So is a DH mtb.
#29
kipuka explorer

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From: Hilo Town, East Hawai'i
Bikes: 1994 Trek 820, 2004 Fuji Absolute, 2005 Jamis Nova, 1977 Schwinn Scrambler 36/36
Of course the labels are important to the manufacturers - they're how their marketing departments mislead the unwashed masses into purchasing new overpriced and often inappropriate "lifestyle" bikes of some sort. The vague labels themselves have no definition other than whatever the marketroids and fashionistas want to pump at any given time.
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#30
Of course the labels are important to the manufacturers - they're how their marketing departments mislead the unwashed masses into purchasing new overpriced and often inappropriate "lifestyle" bikes of some sort. The vague labels themselves have no definition other than whatever the marketroids and fashionistas want to pump at any given time.
Consider what happened with liberals and conservatives over the last few decades. Conservatives came up with terms to define issues the way they wanted them to be perceived (for example, "death tax"). Liberals mostly rolled their eyes and said, "Call it what you want, here's what's wrong with getting rid of the 'death tax.'" The general public said, "Uhh...umm...death tax sounds like a bad thing. I think I'm against it." And the conservatives got what they wanted. Eventually the liberals started figuring this out, stopped rolling their eyes, started playing the game and stopped losing with such consistency.
Refer to my citation in post 8 as necessary.
#31
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT
There are three types of bikes:
1. Road bikes. Sub categories are:
a. Race bikes with race geometry, no compromises.
b. Tour bikes, support for fenders and racks, more relaxed geo.
c. Performance bikes, almost like a race bike, but more upright position, still has good lay-down-the-power geo.
2. Mountain bikes, sub cats are
a. No sus (yeah I know these dont exist, but these are MY categories)
b. Front sus
c. Full sus
3. Other bikes, sub cats are:
a. mishmash of everything else, hybrid, commuter, flat bar, bull bar. It seems to me every marketing person is looking for the next new niche (pronounced: neesh, and not, nich).
1. Road bikes. Sub categories are:
a. Race bikes with race geometry, no compromises.
b. Tour bikes, support for fenders and racks, more relaxed geo.
c. Performance bikes, almost like a race bike, but more upright position, still has good lay-down-the-power geo.
2. Mountain bikes, sub cats are
a. No sus (yeah I know these dont exist, but these are MY categories)
b. Front sus
c. Full sus
3. Other bikes, sub cats are:
a. mishmash of everything else, hybrid, commuter, flat bar, bull bar. It seems to me every marketing person is looking for the next new niche (pronounced: neesh, and not, nich).
#32
rebmeM roineS

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From: Metro Indy, IN
Bikes: Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
Let's see, I bought a Jamis 'city bike' in 1985; it was a 'mountain bike' (26" wheels, MTB triple, thumbshifters, canti's) but with fenders, rear rack and street tread radial ply tires. Started hearing of 'hybrids' a little later in the 80's. They were defined as 'skinny tired mountain bikes' or as 'flat bar road bikes'. Bought a Cannondale hybrid in 1993 - it was not a 'comfort bike'. I used both the Jamis and C-dale to ride to work on, so they were 'commuters'. I was a 'commuter'.
My current 'commuter' is a RANS recumbent. It's a great 'commuter'. I ride it on the road, too, but I won't call it a 'road bike'.
My current 'commuter' is a RANS recumbent. It's a great 'commuter'. I ride it on the road, too, but I won't call it a 'road bike'.
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#33
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From: Potashville
Bikes: Reynolds 531P road bike, Rocky Mountain Metropolis, Rocky Mountain Sherpa 10, Look 566
I sometimes get passed by people who commute on carbon fiber road bikes. It wouldn't be my first choice, what with all the level crossings and frost cracked pavement I have to go over, but it works for them. I'm guessing they're triathletes or bike racers who use their commutes to squeeze in extra training.
#34
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Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Cary NC
Bikes: 2007 Novara Randonee, 1991 Raleigh Olympian, 1988 Nishiki Ariel
* The City Bike. It can look like a commuter bike with muscles, meaning a beefier frame and wheels designed to take multiple hits from curbs, recessed manhole covers, and pot holes. City bikes often have a nondescript paint job so as not to attract the attention of thieves. The top tube may be wrapped in electrical tape (after-market) to protect it when locked to parking meters or street signs. It may have fenders, racks, and flat pedals.
Not my words, I stole them from a review. All black and the marketing plays up the urban warrior thing, i.e. Novara Buzz and Cannondale Bad Boy
#35
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From: Northern Nevada
Bikes: Lemond Big Sky SL, Electra Townie
There are no stupid questions, but there are inquisitive idiots.
That being said, I do not think that the OP is an inquisitive idiot. At least I am not convinced of it yet.
That being said, I do not think that the OP is an inquisitive idiot. At least I am not convinced of it yet.
#36
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From: Maumee, Ohio (near Toledo)
Bikes: Rans Stratus XP, Trek 740 hybrid
There's a nice little section on what people like in a commuter bike in the commuter section here: https://www.biketoledo.net








