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Old 07-22-04, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo
The best solution is still a bicycle and a nice home supplemented with a single auto.
That's my family. One auto, a nice Honda Civic Hybrid that my wife drives (with 2 kids). Me, I use my bike for 99% of my transportation needs. We also have a Burley trailer for the kids. Last month, my wife took the car on a one week trip to Montana while the kids and I stayed home, with only the bike and trailer for transportation. No problem.

Right now my wife and kids are on a 6 week vacation in the car (also to Montana), while I'm at home using the bike for everything.

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Originally Posted by samundsen
That's my family. One auto, a nice Honda Civic Hybrid that my wife drives (with 2 kids). Me, I use my bike for 99% of my transportation needs. We also have a Burley trailer for the kids. Last month, my wife took the car on a one week trip to Montana while the kids and I stayed home, with only the bike and trailer for transportation. No problem.

Right now my wife and kids are on a 6 week vacation in the car (also to Montana), while I'm at home using the bike for everything.

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This is the ideal. Don't get me wrong, if you want a home and can afford one, by all mean buy it.

However:

This housing model you prefer created the car culture that is currently present where millions of subdivisions have been overbuilt with massive highways constructed so your nice Honda Civic can get you to work on time. The concept of "Smart Growth" never really came to play until recently and we are all going to pay the price.

I was talking with someone currently living in San Fran. and he too is looking for a single family home but just can't afford it because prices range between 400 - 650K! These extreme housing prices are the result of poor city planning whereby the single family home itself is driving up the price of space that's left available. As a result, this model of one man per one car and one home is driving up our fuel and housing costs.
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Old 07-22-04, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
This is the ideal. Don't get me wrong, if you want a home and can afford one, by all mean buy it.

However:

This housing model you prefer created the car culture that is currently present where millions of subdivisions have been overbuilt with massive highways constructed so your nice Honda Civic can get you to work on time. The concept of "Smart Growth" never really came to play until recently and we are all going to pay the price.
Actually, it's not the housing model I prefer, it's the housing model I was forced into, moving to Houston from Norway 8 years ago. Houston is nothing but urban sprawl, and I detest it. Back in Norway, I didn't even own a car. Here, you're considered weird if you do not own more than one.

When I first started commuting to work I studied the maps of the area closely, downloaded it to an iPAQ and went exploring. I found a route that took me through subdivisions all the way to work, only having to out onto an arterial road for about a minute. It's very hard to find connections between subdivisions. Back home, I could get anywhere on backroads.

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I skimmed this thread, so maybe I missed something, but maybe part of the importance of owning a car for younger people is dating. It's not as impressive to pull up to your date's house on a Schwinn.

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Originally Posted by Bill B
I skimmed this thread, so maybe I missed something, but maybe part of the importance of owning a car for younger people is dating. It's not as impressive to pull up to your date's house on a Schwinn.
I couldn't disagree more. There's nothing as hot as a bike date!
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