Not always doable in some poorly designed bike racks when the bike has a rear rack and fenders.

That's not poor design, that's a terrorist deterrent.

Trying to secure from every threat imaginable will bankrupt the country, .... opps too late.

I agree completely and since 9/11 security as a discipline is slowly shifting back toward a rational reasoning process when considering potential threats.

There's always a way Beats having to rebuild the front wheel when the wind topples the bike and tacos the wheel My stupid kid managed to do that Damned kids

Hey, did I just come up with a good reason to use a front rack rather than a rear?

If they're going to get bent about that, they should consider the possible amount of explosives contained in a bike compared to a car. Then the blast damage radius. Both are cubed powers so they cancel each other out, so with a bike at about 3 inches wide and a car at about 6 feet wide, and a bike required to be 25 yards away, clearly they shouldn't allow cars within 6*4*25 = 600 yards of the building.

I think that math is correct, please let me know if not.

I park my bike INSIDE the building - clearly I'm a real Gitmo resident in the making here.

I always recommended you highly to Dick and the gang when they were still taking reservations.

With cars parked 600 yards away , that'll necessitate a shuttle service no?

I have an old copy of Encyclopedia Britannica. It lists intelligence under 3 headings, human, animal and military.

In that order

the fact that they list military at all is troubling

OK, so park the bike further away and carry the explosives in your backpack.



That was the question, wasn't it?

Heh, there's the right way, and the wrong way . . .

I don't blame them. Everybody knows that carbon explodes withour warning.

Have you ever tried using things like "critical thinking", "logic" and "common sense" with military leadership? It's like trying to cut down a redwood tree with a butterknife.

I commute on Ft Bragg every day, really hope the Good Idea Fairy doesn't strike with that one up here...

Haven't you noticed the removal of most public trash cans?

All good points... and having spent a number of years in the military... sigh... I do understand.

I do have to admit though that if we can't keep our bases secure... we got problems! Of course you never know when some addled young mind will go the way of Timothy McVey.

Can you give links to the Ireland and Russia bike bomb stories? Your description of the Times Sq incident is incorrect - the guy rode up on a bike, chucked a tiny pipe bomb that barely broke a window and then rode off again. It wasn't a bike bomb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_6...Square_bombing

Deflection. The point is that bicycles can and have been made into bombs, which can and have been employed by terrorists in various locations around the world. No reason to think this can't happen anywhere in the U.S., particularly CA.

And so now that "rectum bombs" have become the latest proven method, just where does that leave perimeter security efforts? Like my response to the UK airport officer who asked if there was anything in my luggage that might be used as a weapon, after a long pause, "I really can't think of anything that couldn't be used as a weapon."

The Russian example is recent, August 21, 2009.
https://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5256988.shtml

Bicycles were used a couple of times in Ireland, or more accurately by the IRA attacking the English in England, but most of the incidents were pre-WWII. This one is from 1994.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1383814.html

The description of the Recruiting Station bombing I had came from a news report published the day of the incident. It described a security camera film showing a man locking up his bicycle, leaving it, and the bomb exploding three minutes later.

Really, nobody has to actually *park* a bike to be able to blow it up. If they were sincere about security, they wouldn't allow *riding* of bikes anywhere near the buildings, either.

Ah, he[[ -- before my back started giving me fits, I WAS a walking weapon! (j/k)

Thank you - very interesting. I hadn't heard about the Brighton/Bugger Bognor ones, but I suppose that's because there wasn't much damage. I am surprised that they hired the bikes (it seems) which meant they would have had to come face to face with someone in town instead of just buying old ones at a market/from the paper etc.

It's not deflection at all. It's completely obvious that if a bike can carry groceries it can also carry a small bomb. I was just curious about the attacks in Russia and Ireland (as it turns out, England) because I hadn't heard of them before - is that OK with you, dad?

OK, now You, are definitely on the list.

I'd write a whole screed on how the whole thing was a complete farce, with examples, but I don't want to be on the list, even living this side of the border. And no, I have no intention of ever crossing it Southbound, ever. The really bad news is, no government will ever give up powers once granted.