Badly Aimed Annoyingly Bright Bike Lights
#51
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I don't think I ever blinded somebody with my P7. 
But hey, if the OP pays, I always wanted to upgrade to the Busch&Müller Big Bang!

But hey, if the OP pays, I always wanted to upgrade to the Busch&Müller Big Bang!
#52
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I agree it's annoying on really dark MUPs, but on the road, isn't a really bright light good? When I'm riding in the city, I'm not as concerned about seeing the road's surface as being seen by other drivers. I'm ok with annoying a driver if they see me and don't hit me. They're lights are way brighter than mine anyway, even with the cut-off on top. And they pretty much only sell lights for bikes that don't have the top cut-off you all are talking about, so, meh.
#53

1) Not always possible, so that tidbit of advice doesn't apply.
If I had no option but to ride the MUP, with fair amounts of oncoming riders and unlit pedestrians, there would really be no option but to throttle back my riding speed. Maybe then I could scrape by with a feeble light, aim it down 20 feet in front of the bike, and try to stay away from the edge. On an average day, how many oncoming cyclists are you guys encountering, anyway?
2) All it takes is a flash to ruin your night vision. The difference is that "badly aimed, annoyingly bright" lights are so bad that, until they finally pass, you can't see the ground at all unless you block them from your face and shine your own light straight down.
Exposure to relatively bright lights is an inevitable part of using public roads and paths. At the last turn on my homeward commute, I face two lanes of cars with their low-beams aimed right at my face (humped intersection). That's not their fault.
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#56
If you had a headlight, I would see you coming and put my hand over the top of mine. If you are pedaling or walking in the street or MUP ninja style, I am going to blow you up with my light on purpose.
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Doesn't prove a damn thing without shots from the other direction (What we'd see riding towards it). Looks purty, though.
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#61
I set up my headlight mount just loose enough so I can adjust the light height based on where I am.
I set my light slightly higher, on steady light when I'm on an open road. When I'm in my neighborhood, I aim it to about eye-height for someone in a car and set it to blink. I've been hit by a car twice in broad daylight, so I'm not going to let a driver not notice me. I'd rather they be uncomfortable for a second, and notice that I'm coming, than go easy on their eyes and let them ignore my existence.
When it comes to other cyclists/runners, I always aim my light down as to not blind them.
I set my light slightly higher, on steady light when I'm on an open road. When I'm in my neighborhood, I aim it to about eye-height for someone in a car and set it to blink. I've been hit by a car twice in broad daylight, so I'm not going to let a driver not notice me. I'd rather they be uncomfortable for a second, and notice that I'm coming, than go easy on their eyes and let them ignore my existence.
When it comes to other cyclists/runners, I always aim my light down as to not blind them.
#62
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I dont use lights I just slow it down at night....You have to aware of your surroundings...I am invincible to everyone around me and ride like it too.
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I think I fall into the over kill category. One of the things that I really like about my Dinotte is that oncoming head lights don't just wash out my light -- may not be true, but I believe that makes me more visible to oncoming traffic. I run it in strobe mode during the day on every ride, ever since the women turned in front of me causing my crash that totaled out my Cannondale T1. I am tired of the the 'I didn't see you' excuse.
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I already have a B&M IQ CYO Senso Plus but am considering adding dynamos to more of my fleet and like good German dynamo lights, just do not like the prices they get for them.
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I have my headlight mounted so it shines on the road straight in front of me. My helmet light shines where I am looking. I only deliberately light up other people with my helmet light under certain situations:
a) bike ninjas
b) drivers who look like they might be about to pull out in front of me
c) oncoming drivers who can't find their dimmer switch with both hands
These are for me to see and be seen. If someone else wants to see and/or be seen then they need to get better lights. Not my problem.
I wish bike ninjas would be ticketed for at least the cost of a decent set of lights.
This is the best suggestion on this thread.
a) bike ninjas
b) drivers who look like they might be about to pull out in front of me
c) oncoming drivers who can't find their dimmer switch with both hands
These are for me to see and be seen. If someone else wants to see and/or be seen then they need to get better lights. Not my problem.
I wish bike ninjas would be ticketed for at least the cost of a decent set of lights.
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I have my headlight mounted so it shines on the road straight in front of me. My helmet light shines where I am looking. I only deliberately light up other people with my helmet light under certain situations:
a) bike ninjas
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I wish bike ninjas would be ticketed for at least the cost of a decent set of lights.
a) bike ninjas
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I wish bike ninjas would be ticketed for at least the cost of a decent set of lights.
You already have noticed the ninjas, they know they don't have lights; what do either you or the ninjas gain by your nasty behavior of attempting to temporarily blind them?
Does it make you feel better about yourself to sic the police on other bicyclists?
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I aim my lights toward the road, so that I can see.
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The mode with steady low with strobing high is perfect for night riding on busy streets. The slow strobe is screaming bright but I think that's probably more disorienting than a pulsating light. Those Dinottes really are great lights, as mentioned by another poster you can tilt the beam off to the side while riding. I wish the 400 series had a similar mounting system
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Hey folks, if you have to run a headlight that's got a zillion lumen candlepower, at least have the decency to aim it correctly so you don't blind oncoming cyclists, down and to the right, just like properly aimed car headlights. Aiming your headlight into the eyes of oncoming cyclists is not only annoying, it's dangerous.
How often does this happen to you? What is the point of bringing it up here? You should be talking to the person who has the light in your eyes.
#71
I have discussions about this with co-workers, they complement me on the way I'm lit up in the mornings, and rant about the ninjas who pop up out of nowhere, these guys do the rest of the cycling community a disservice.
Did you see my post earlier about the two ninjas who ran into each other at speed? Both thought they were safe because, "Hey, I can see the other riders fine, they're all lit up!"
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my mistake for starting this thread, I guess most of you folks ride in places where you never encounter other cyclists
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