The cophenhagen wheel
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The cophenhagen wheel
Does anyone have any more information on this wheel than what is on the website ?
https://senseable.mit.edu/copenhagenwheel/index.html
https://senseable.mit.edu/copenhagenwheel/index.html
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Sounds cool. I liked the features. Especially locking your bike with your iPhone and the built in pollution monitor.
But why did they make it look like a ghost bike?
But why did they make it look like a ghost bike?
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I have to wonder about the effect of a flywheel turning inside the back wheel of my bike, especially when I'm going through a turn at speed, or coming to an emergency stop.
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Also,
You can use your phone to unlock and
lock your bike, change gears...
lock your bike, change gears...
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I like the idea that people are looking at ways to make biking practical for a wider range of people. I guess I question how well it would work in practice. If the idea is to store energy in the flywheel to help you up that hill, what happens if the hill is in the first part of your ride? Then instead of getting a boost, you're just lugging the extra weight.
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I like the idea that people are looking at ways to make biking practical for a wider range of people. I guess I question how well it would work in practice. If the idea is to store energy in the flywheel to help you up that hill, what happens if the hill is in the first part of your ride? Then instead of getting a boost, you're just lugging the extra weight.
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This seems more useful.
https://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/24/...cle-electrics/
https://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/24/...cle-electrics/
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"When I hear another express an opinion, which is not mine, I say to myself, He has a right to his opinion, as I to mine; why should I question it. His error does me no injury, and shall I become a Don Quixot to bring all men by force of argument, to one opinion? If a fact be misstated, it is probable he is gratified by a belief of it, and I have no right to deprive him of the gratification."
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I thought 150 years of bicycle evolution created several great human powered solutions to transportation. Why now are we saying we need electric bikes to solve our pollution problems? Human power works pretty darn well.
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
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Doesn't the Trek Ride + already do this? It has electric assist and regen braking all controlled from a console on the handebars:
Trek Ride+
Trek Ride+
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Looks like they got the capital and will start taking orders next month. It seems this wheel will turn any single speed bike into an electrically assisted bike. Should be interesting to see how popular it proves to be, or not.
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I thought 150 years of bicycle evolution created several great human powered solutions to transportation. Why now are we saying we need electric bikes to solve our pollution problems? Human power works pretty darn well.
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
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It won't. Most of my colleagues in CPH ride beat up 5-10 year old city bikes and just scrap them when they need a tune. The also share and have no qualms about taking a non-ring locked bike if they're in a rush.
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I thought 150 years of bicycle evolution created several great human powered solutions to transportation. Why now are we saying we need electric bikes to solve our pollution problems? Human power works pretty darn well.
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
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I thought 150 years of bicycle evolution created several great human powered solutions to transportation. Why now are we saying we need electric bikes to solve our pollution problems? Human power works pretty darn well.
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
Just because we've become a fat and lazy society doesn't mean we need to cultivate our fatness and laziness. Ride a regular bike and lose a few pounds. We've got a culture of "looks is important" but combined with "exert as little effort as possible".
I guess you could get an electric bike and a lap-band and call it a day.
I swear, we'll all end up like the movie Wall-e
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thought something like that was a Prop on the Showtime Serialized show "Weeds" ..
I liked the show, and all the various interpretations of Malvina Reynold's classic "Little Boxes" as the theme song.
I liked the show, and all the various interpretations of Malvina Reynold's classic "Little Boxes" as the theme song.
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I'm waiting for an E-bike designed for experienced cyclists who only want to flatten some hills, or get some extra help in stop and go conditions. So far most of the offerings are designed around riders who really depend on them, and so the battery is too large and heavy negating the benefit.
A unit that could provide an electric afterburner for hill climbs or a bit more speed on long grades could be built around short run times, and possibly some regeneration on descents could use a much smaller battery and motor keeping the overall weight closer to that of a normal bike.
A unit that could provide an electric afterburner for hill climbs or a bit more speed on long grades could be built around short run times, and possibly some regeneration on descents could use a much smaller battery and motor keeping the overall weight closer to that of a normal bike.
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Only 15 miles per trip:
https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/1...bicycle-wheel/
https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/1...bicycle-wheel/
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From the article "You can use your phone to unlock and
lock your bike, change gears and select how much the motor assists you."
I need a phone to shift gears?
lock your bike, change gears and select how much the motor assists you."
I need a phone to shift gears?




