Driver watching you hits another car. Do you stop?
#1
Thread Starter
all-weather commuter
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
From: Rochester, NY
Driver watching you hits another car. Do you stop?
If a driver was passing you and turned his head to look at you as he was passing and he hit another car, would you stop or keep going?
#4
Senior Moment
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 279
Likes: 4
From: Middle Maine
Bikes: 2014 Surly LHT, 2003 Giant NRS 3, 1991 Trek 7000, 2022 Surly Bridge Club, 1985 Miyata 210, 1999 Schwinn Moab 2
Keep going. The in-attentive driver will likely try to blame you, and if he gets a good lawyer, you could find yourself having to mount a defense from a lawsuit. Get out of there fast.
#5
Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,393
Likes: 945
From: Looney Tunes, IL
Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!
One morning just as I was turning right into my workplace driveway on my bike, I witnessed a driver get rear ended and then hit by an oncoming truck while waiting to turn left into the same driveway. (only thirty or so feet to my left... it was quite exciting) Later one of my co-workers tried to say it was somehow my fault. He was half joking but still the thought was there and it wouldn't have been if I was in my car.
#6
Adam
#8
Señior Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 13,748
Likes: 10
From: Michigan
Bikes: Windsor Fens, Giant Seek 0 (2014, Alfine 8 + discs)
I'd stop and wait to see if witnesses were needed. I'm not too worried about being blamed; I was once hit in my car by a guy watching an ambulance go by - was the ambulance at fault?
__________________
Work: the 8 hours that separates bike rides.
Work: the 8 hours that separates bike rides.
#9
Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,393
Likes: 945
From: Looney Tunes, IL
Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!
The fact is, if I was the only witness I'd stay. But if there are plenty of other witnesses, I'm gone.
#11
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,834
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: 05 Trek 5200, 07 Trek 520, 99 GT Karakoram, 08 Surly 1X1
If many of you would keep going for fear of being "blamed" you may want to check out a basic community ed course on legal liability.
Fear is a waste of energy when it can be replaced by simple knowledge.
Fear is a waste of energy when it can be replaced by simple knowledge.
#12
Senior Member


Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 952
Likes: 3
From: Long Beach, ca
Bikes: RadRunner Plus, Kona Dew Deluxe
That said, I don't live in bicycle-hating suburbs, so I'd hang out to the extent that my schedule allowed.
#13
Senior Member


Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 952
Likes: 3
From: Long Beach, ca
Bikes: RadRunner Plus, Kona Dew Deluxe
I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter if you're at fault or not -- it matters whether or not you'll be spending twenty thousand on a lawyer to keep you from having to be at fault.
#14
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,834
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: 05 Trek 5200, 07 Trek 520, 99 GT Karakoram, 08 Surly 1X1
I'm not disagreeing this is a litigious society, but ridiculous lawsuits like this is what your insurance company is legally obligated to defend you from.
#15
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
From: Antioch, IL
Bikes: Giant Defy Advanced 0, Rivendell- Sam Hillborne, Montague folding bike.
As sympathetic as I am to splitting, I suspect that I would stay. I'd want to be sure that the police had my statement that I was following all traffic laws at the time.
__________________
"Why is there a hill after every meal, but not a meal after every hill?"
--Overheard on Grabaawr
"Why is there a hill after every meal, but not a meal after every hill?"
--Overheard on Grabaawr
#17
Galveston County Texas
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 33,335
Likes: 1,286
From: In The Wind
Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum
#18
Banned
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,701
Likes: 2,506
From: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes
If I witnessed a pedestrian getting hit, or if I witnessed a cyclist getting hit, or if I witnessed some idiot running a red light and causing an accident, then YES I would stop and call a police and I would be very willing to explain what I've just seen happen. The situation that OP is talking about is completly different.
#19
Banned
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,701
Likes: 2,506
From: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes
How do you know if the COP would believe your side of the story ? Especially if the driver(s) involved would try to twist the whole story and turn it against you ?
#20
Senior Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 15,274
Likes: 1,764
From: Far beyond the pale horizon.
(Keep in mind that the cyclist may be helping the other guy.)
#21
Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Greenville, SC
Bikes: Fuji Touring, Trek 6500, Fuji Roubaix
A few years ago I was replacing a tube in my rear tire on the side of the road. A woman drove up to me, and stopped while still in the road. She asked if I needed any help, which I thought was nice, but I thought it was dumb for her to stop. Right after I said no thanks, another woman driving a big pickup truck slammed into the back of the first woman's car. The truck wasn't in bad shape, but the car was most likely totaled.
I stayed until the cops came, because I sorta felt bad for both of the women (though the truck driver obviously wasn't looking where she was going). The cop didn't really care to ask me anything though.
It all happened maybe 20 feet from me, and was crazy to watch. Afterward I got a little mad at that first woman for stopping, what if the truck driver had swerved to miss her and run me over?
Ever since then, I get sorta mad when people break the law while on the road because they're trying to be nice. I just heard some woman at work the other day complaining about someone waving her on and then getting hit. Don't try to be so nice, just follow the law.
I stayed until the cops came, because I sorta felt bad for both of the women (though the truck driver obviously wasn't looking where she was going). The cop didn't really care to ask me anything though.
It all happened maybe 20 feet from me, and was crazy to watch. Afterward I got a little mad at that first woman for stopping, what if the truck driver had swerved to miss her and run me over?
Ever since then, I get sorta mad when people break the law while on the road because they're trying to be nice. I just heard some woman at work the other day complaining about someone waving her on and then getting hit. Don't try to be so nice, just follow the law.
#22
Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Well if you aren't there to defend yourself you can be sure they will. Also you better hope no one can identify you...
#24
Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
It all happened maybe 20 feet from me, and was crazy to watch. Afterward I got a little mad at that first woman for stopping, what if the truck driver had swerved to miss her and run me over?
Ever since then, I get sorta mad when people break the law while on the road because they're trying to be nice. I just heard some woman at work the other day complaining about someone waving her on and then getting hit. Don't try to be so nice, just follow the law.
Ever since then, I get sorta mad when people break the law while on the road because they're trying to be nice. I just heard some woman at work the other day complaining about someone waving her on and then getting hit. Don't try to be so nice, just follow the law.
#25
Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Greenville, SC
Bikes: Fuji Touring, Trek 6500, Fuji Roubaix
Certainly the truck driver was to blame as well, but both of them caused the accident in different ways.




