Sizing for MTB commuter
#1
Thread Starter
vintage motor


Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 349
From: Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico
Bikes: 48 Automoto, 49 Stallard, 50 Rotrax, 62 Jack Taylor, 67 Atala, 68 Lejeune, 72-74-75 Motobecanes, 73 RIH, 71 Zieleman, 74 Raleigh, 78 Windsor, 83 Messina (Villata), 84 Brazzo (Losa), 85 Davidson, 90 Diamondback, 92 Kestrel
Sizing for MTB commuter
I’m planning to get an old rigid-frame mountain bike for use mostly as a city commuter, and also for gravel road excursions and the occasional road tour. What size should I look for? I’m 6 feet tall but have a relatively short 30” inseam. I consider 58cm/23” my normal road bike size. The MTB sizing recommendations seem very small and more in line with off-road riding: according to one chart I should get a 19” frame. Shouldn’t I look for something larger for road riding?
#3
Decrepit Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
From: Sydney, Australia
Bikes: 2003 Trek 520, 1996 Trek 370, 1996 Bianchi Osprey, too many others.
I'm 5'10 with a 30" inseam.
My road bike is a 21" Trek 520, and my MTB is an 18" mid 90's Nishiki Colorado. These sizes work for me. I have a bit more crotch clearance on the MTB than the 520, but the next size up would probably be too high.
At any rate, providing the standover height is OK, it's not so much the seat tube length that matters as the top tube. Seat height is easy to fix, but there are limits to what you can achive with stems.
My road bike is a 21" Trek 520, and my MTB is an 18" mid 90's Nishiki Colorado. These sizes work for me. I have a bit more crotch clearance on the MTB than the 520, but the next size up would probably be too high.
At any rate, providing the standover height is OK, it's not so much the seat tube length that matters as the top tube. Seat height is easy to fix, but there are limits to what you can achive with stems.
#4
This bike sizing calculator worked pretty well for me.
https://www.bikefitting.com/English/FSR/FSR.aspx
https://www.bikefitting.com/English/FSR/FSR.aspx
#5
Thread Starter
vintage motor


Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 349
From: Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico
Bikes: 48 Automoto, 49 Stallard, 50 Rotrax, 62 Jack Taylor, 67 Atala, 68 Lejeune, 72-74-75 Motobecanes, 73 RIH, 71 Zieleman, 74 Raleigh, 78 Windsor, 83 Messina (Villata), 84 Brazzo (Losa), 85 Davidson, 90 Diamondback, 92 Kestrel
I also have a 21" Trek 520! It's a 1992, great bike. It's the smallest frame (as measured by the seat tube) I've ever had. But it's got a long top tube, long stem, and the handlebars extend forward pretty far, so it fits my long torso pretty well. I think it's still a tad short in the seat tube, but with the high BB and big 45mm tires I use, I was afraid the next size up (23") would have been too big. I figured it would be better a bit small than too big. It puts the seat quite a bit higher than the bars, but fortunately I like it that way. The bike is getting to be a classic and I want it to last me a long time. It's held up well through 18 years of daily beatings on the rough streets where I live, but last October I broke the steering tube. I'm thinking of retiring it from the daily grind of commuting and saving it for touring and excursions, and replacing it with an old MTB.
#6
Senior Member


Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,465
Likes: 4,547
From: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
no 19 is fine. it's weird how they measure them though. it's different. like they don't measure the entire tube or something. I recently got rid of an 18" even though I measured it much bigger according to road specs. I now have a 20" MTB which is the correct size for me and my legs and it is way more comfortable. I stayed with the same brand and geometry so it was interesting to see the difference the bigger frame alone made
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 171
Likes: 1
From: Northern Wisconsin, USA
Bikes: '80's vintage Dutch framed(Gazelle), Japanese components,set up for city riding and light touring...fenders, rack and bags.
I have asked myself this same question. I am new to bikes and jumped right into commuting to work with an old body.
Now 8 months later I have 6 working bikes and a couple in process. I just paid $300 for an Italian frame because it had a long seat tube but a shorter than usual top tube.
Anyway I measured all my frames...guess what, every one is a little different. When the snow came I switched from my Gazelle which is an '80's racing framed road bike with 27" wheels to an old Giant Iguana MTB with 26" studded tires. As far as comfort I was not happy because the stem on the MTB was short vertically and long horizonally, the Gazelle has a Nitto Technomic long vertival reach stem and that got my head way up more. With bifocals I saw better. The MTB has me in a crouch so that with hat(s) and hood, bifocals and cold windy weather it's hard to see down the road.
You can bet something is gonna change for next year. The reach to the bars and stem on my MTB just isn't right. I am riding it to work every day but it's not very enjoyable cause i can't look around easily. I like a frame that's bigger. The Gazelle I can just barely stand over. Underway it's really relaxing to ride, high,but quick to turn with a short wheelbase.The mtb by comparison is work in every sense on the road.
bill
Now 8 months later I have 6 working bikes and a couple in process. I just paid $300 for an Italian frame because it had a long seat tube but a shorter than usual top tube.
Anyway I measured all my frames...guess what, every one is a little different. When the snow came I switched from my Gazelle which is an '80's racing framed road bike with 27" wheels to an old Giant Iguana MTB with 26" studded tires. As far as comfort I was not happy because the stem on the MTB was short vertically and long horizonally, the Gazelle has a Nitto Technomic long vertival reach stem and that got my head way up more. With bifocals I saw better. The MTB has me in a crouch so that with hat(s) and hood, bifocals and cold windy weather it's hard to see down the road.
You can bet something is gonna change for next year. The reach to the bars and stem on my MTB just isn't right. I am riding it to work every day but it's not very enjoyable cause i can't look around easily. I like a frame that's bigger. The Gazelle I can just barely stand over. Underway it's really relaxing to ride, high,but quick to turn with a short wheelbase.The mtb by comparison is work in every sense on the road.
bill
Last edited by bmwstbill; 02-19-10 at 05:09 AM.
#8
Papaya King
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,640
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, Ohio (Grandview area)
Bikes: 2009 Felt X City D, 1985 (?) Trek 400, 1995 (?) Specialized Rockhopper, 1995 Trek 850
I have asked myself this same question. I am new to bikes and jumped right into commuting to work with an old body.
Now 8 months later I have 6 working bikes and a couple in process. I just paid $300 for an Italian frame because it had a long seat tube but a shorter than usual top tube.
Anyway I measured all my frames...guess what, every one is a little different. When the snow came I switched from my Gazelle which is an '80's racing framed road bike with 27" wheels to an old Giant Iguana MTB with 26" studded tires. As far as comfort I was not happy because the stem on the MTB was short vertically and long horizonally, the Gazelle has a Nitto Technomic long vertival reach stem and that got my head way up more. With bifocals I saw better. The MTB has me in a crouch so that with hat(s) and hood, bifocals and cold windy weather it's hard to see down the road.
You can bet something is gonna change for next year. The reach to the bars and stem on my MTB just isn't right. I am riding it to work every day but it's not very enjoyable cause i can't look around easily. I like a frame that's bigger. The Gazelle I can just barely stand over. Underway it's really relaxing to ride, high,but quick to turn with a short wheelbase.The mtb by comparison is work in every sense on the road.
bill
Now 8 months later I have 6 working bikes and a couple in process. I just paid $300 for an Italian frame because it had a long seat tube but a shorter than usual top tube.
Anyway I measured all my frames...guess what, every one is a little different. When the snow came I switched from my Gazelle which is an '80's racing framed road bike with 27" wheels to an old Giant Iguana MTB with 26" studded tires. As far as comfort I was not happy because the stem on the MTB was short vertically and long horizonally, the Gazelle has a Nitto Technomic long vertival reach stem and that got my head way up more. With bifocals I saw better. The MTB has me in a crouch so that with hat(s) and hood, bifocals and cold windy weather it's hard to see down the road.
You can bet something is gonna change for next year. The reach to the bars and stem on my MTB just isn't right. I am riding it to work every day but it's not very enjoyable cause i can't look around easily. I like a frame that's bigger. The Gazelle I can just barely stand over. Underway it's really relaxing to ride, high,but quick to turn with a short wheelbase.The mtb by comparison is work in every sense on the road.
bill
BTW, what size is it?
#10
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 115
Likes: 1
From: North Central Florida
Bikes: Giant Rincon '08, Nashbar CX Homebrew
Hello all,
Consider trying this bike frame sizing:
https://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer
you can input inches/cm, male/female, road/mtb/bmx/kids. It includes crank arm length recommendations as well. It doesn't go into detail supplying other tube lengths, just seat tube.
Consider trying this bike frame sizing:
https://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer
you can input inches/cm, male/female, road/mtb/bmx/kids. It includes crank arm length recommendations as well. It doesn't go into detail supplying other tube lengths, just seat tube.
#11
Senior Member


Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,465
Likes: 4,547
From: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
THANKS THAT WORKS GREAT! (and matches the bikes sizes I own and ride comfortably and matches the size I've come up with with other methods)
#12
Thread Starter
vintage motor


Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 349
From: Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico
Bikes: 48 Automoto, 49 Stallard, 50 Rotrax, 62 Jack Taylor, 67 Atala, 68 Lejeune, 72-74-75 Motobecanes, 73 RIH, 71 Zieleman, 74 Raleigh, 78 Windsor, 83 Messina (Villata), 84 Brazzo (Losa), 85 Davidson, 90 Diamondback, 92 Kestrel
Yeah, but they even say that the MTB's are for off-road roding. I'd figure that for roads and streets you'd want something more along the lines of road bike sizing, but the MTB geometry seems very different and not really comparable.
#13
I would stick pretty close to recommendations. MTB frames are supposed to be smaller. I normally ride a 57cm road bike, but I rode a 19.5" Trek 820 for a while and it was plenty comfortable. Expect to have a lot of seat post showing.
#14
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,896
Likes: 6
From: Binghamton, NY
Bikes: Workcycles FR8, 2016 Jamis Coda Comp, 2008 Surly Long Haul Trucker
I had a early 90's Giant Rincon that was a size 21" if memory serves me correctly. I think it was considered a mountain/hybrid bike. At 5'9 I thought the bike fit me fine if not just slightly big. I only commuted on it and road riding was just fine. It did not have a sloping top tube like a lot of newer type mountain bikes do.
Your best bet is go out a ride it. When I was younger I felt like I could ride that bike forever. If I took better care of it I probably wouldn't have it just sitting in my moms basement.
Early 90's Mountain bikes can be very different from the later ones. The Rincon had attachement points for two watter bottles and brazeons for both racks and fenders both front and rear. My understanding is that some of them were simply touring frames with 26" wheel sizes. I'd say the road bike frame size would apply.
Your best bet is go out a ride it. When I was younger I felt like I could ride that bike forever. If I took better care of it I probably wouldn't have it just sitting in my moms basement.
Early 90's Mountain bikes can be very different from the later ones. The Rincon had attachement points for two watter bottles and brazeons for both racks and fenders both front and rear. My understanding is that some of them were simply touring frames with 26" wheel sizes. I'd say the road bike frame size would apply.
Last edited by exile; 02-20-10 at 06:57 PM.





