View Poll Results: How do you make a left Turn on a wide road
Move all the way and use the turn left lane.



24
88.89%
Stop at the close side and wait of the perpendicular green light.



4
14.81%
Cross and wait for the green light.



0
0%
Three right hand turns.



0
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Left Turn Lane
#2
...or a right turn, for those forum members who live in "left-side" driving countries. In other words, a turn across oncoming traffic.
I didn't check any of the boxes, because the approach varies depending on how the roads are set up.
If there's a dedicated cross-traffic turning lane, you should stay at the near edge of it and cross when traffic clears or the green arrow says to, or both. If there's a cross-traffic turning lane shared with vehicles going straight ahead, you get to the far edge of it and turn when it's safe. That gives straight-ahead traffic a chance to move past you while you wait to be able to turn.
But of course it's cool to dismount and walk across and then proceed and in extremely heavy traffic that might be best. Usually even at rush hour it's possible to just ride normally following the indications above.
I didn't check any of the boxes, because the approach varies depending on how the roads are set up.
If there's a dedicated cross-traffic turning lane, you should stay at the near edge of it and cross when traffic clears or the green arrow says to, or both. If there's a cross-traffic turning lane shared with vehicles going straight ahead, you get to the far edge of it and turn when it's safe. That gives straight-ahead traffic a chance to move past you while you wait to be able to turn.
But of course it's cool to dismount and walk across and then proceed and in extremely heavy traffic that might be best. Usually even at rush hour it's possible to just ride normally following the indications above.
#3
Unless the situation is a rare and dangerous one, I always behave like I do when driving my car.
Once motorists get over their amazement that I would be in the lane at all, they are amazingly quick to understand exactly what I'm doing.
My strategy is, "be predictable."
Once motorists get over their amazement that I would be in the lane at all, they are amazingly quick to understand exactly what I'm doing.
My strategy is, "be predictable."
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#4
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Depending on traffic, I make left turns from the left lane.
In very heavy traffic, I usually dismount and cross on the green.
In heavy traffic many motorists are already on the edge of rage and will speed up to get through the intersection before we do, irregardless of rights or safety; so why put ourselves in harm's way.
In very heavy traffic, I usually dismount and cross on the green.
In heavy traffic many motorists are already on the edge of rage and will speed up to get through the intersection before we do, irregardless of rights or safety; so why put ourselves in harm's way.
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#5
Once motorists get over their amazement that I would be in the lane at all, they are amazingly quick to understand exactly what I'm doing.
Anyway, I try to use the left lane in most situations. I don't have the patience to go any other way though motorists who forget about green arrows drive me nuts and I don't have a decent horn to wake them up with.
#6
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Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Pacific Grove, CA
Originally posted by LittleBigMan
Unless the situation is a rare and dangerous one, I always behave like I do when driving my car.
Once motorists get over their amazement that I would be in the lane at all, they are amazingly quick to understand exactly what I'm doing.
My strategy is, "be predictable."
Unless the situation is a rare and dangerous one, I always behave like I do when driving my car.
Once motorists get over their amazement that I would be in the lane at all, they are amazingly quick to understand exactly what I'm doing.
My strategy is, "be predictable."
andy
#7
At turn right intersections I usually try to use the lights just like a car would. In peak hour traffic it is sometimes too busy to get across to the turning lane so I will do a "hook" turn. What this means is that will ride straight through the intersection, stop on the other side then turn my bike 90º clockwise and wait for the green light from that direction. The road rules here actually recommend this in such a situation, which tells me that someone in the transport department must ride bikes also.
I hope this is clear.
CHEERS.
Mark
I hope this is clear.
CHEERS.
Mark
#8
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From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Originally posted by Dutchy
At turn right intersections I usually try to use the lights just like a car would. In peak hour traffic it is sometimes too busy to get across to the turning lane so I will do a "hook" turn. What this means is that will ride straight through the intersection, stop on the other side then turn my bike 90º clockwise and wait for the green light from that direction.
At turn right intersections I usually try to use the lights just like a car would. In peak hour traffic it is sometimes too busy to get across to the turning lane so I will do a "hook" turn. What this means is that will ride straight through the intersection, stop on the other side then turn my bike 90º clockwise and wait for the green light from that direction.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#9
Originally posted by aturley
...as long as I'm attentive I'll be fine.
...as long as I'm attentive I'll be fine.
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#10
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From: Pacific Grove, CA
Originally posted by LittleBigMan
Andy, this reminds me: I always signal and look back, then WAIT (this means pause, not stop) for an opening. Sometimes I look back TWICE just to be sure the alert driver is still making a space for me to merge left.
Andy, this reminds me: I always signal and look back, then WAIT (this means pause, not stop) for an opening. Sometimes I look back TWICE just to be sure the alert driver is still making a space for me to merge left.
The human mind is a great pattern recognizer. People can basically set their brains up to look for certain patterns and let the concious mind go off and do other things unless it gets interrupted by the pattern matching part of the brain. The only problem is that when people are driving, the pattern that they are "looking" for is a car in front of them. I think this is why bikes don't even register on the road with most people. They honestly don't see us, because they aren't expecting us.
OK, just a theory, but from what I understand from reading a bit of Douglas Hofstader, I think there's some truth to it.
andy
#11
Originally posted by aturley
The human mind is a great pattern recognizer. ... I think this is why bikes don't even register on the road with most people. They honestly don't see us, because they aren't expecting us.
The human mind is a great pattern recognizer. ... I think this is why bikes don't even register on the road with most people. They honestly don't see us, because they aren't expecting us.
As for looking back (or around!), I do it all the way through the cross-traffic turn, head going like one of those doggies you used to see on cars' rear window ledges. Not only to see any possible threat (I hope) but to let drivers who see me know I'm alert.




