The situation i had in mind is was one lane road w/bike lane on the right, immediately before the intersection a second lane on the right opens up(not signed as right turn only) and with dashed lines the bike lane crosses the new "right turn lane". So the situation is basically a two lane road without a right-turn lane and a pseudo bike-lane going through the right lane. A bit complicated.

I was curious in general if there was a better solution to the right-turn on red problem... it seems no matter how you look at it you'll be getting pushed or squeezed out of the way by other vehicles.

This intersection is on my route. It's a little different from what you describe -- it doesn't have a right turn-only lane, although cars are allowed to turn right on red (between 7 PM and 7 AM, anyway). You can see where the cars go, both straight ahead and during their turn. The red box is where I stop. There aren't enough pedestrians to make my position a problem for them (it's nothing like Lower Manhattan). I'm not projecting into the lane of the cross street, yet I'm more than a lane's width from the curb.

*add-on* Basically, I'm in no-man's land. Nobody walks there, nobody drives there (despite the satellite taking the photo during a lull ;)). At some intersections, places like this tend to collect fine gravel just because nothing drives on them. */end add-on*

As usual, it varies by intersection, but this kind of position works quite often for me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/bikestop.jpg

This is the intersection i was talking about. There is just enough room to make right-turn motorists want to squeeze/push you out while you are in the bicycle lane.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vmep0m.png

Totally depends.

In general this is how it goes:

There is not much traffic... I keep my position and attempt to trip the light by myself. If a car comes up behind me I stay put.

There is traffic... I am respectful of the fact that I am able to move and cars may want to turn right. I put myself near the curb, or with my right foot on it. I look back at the driver (who is usually keeping their distance) and motion asking if they are turning. They'll either wave me off or see that it's OK to go ahead. If they wave me off, when the light turns green I find they have more respect for me and give me proper distance. I have yet to have a problem in this situation yet.

If the traffic is ahead of me, I wait my turn just like they do.

I will never do #3.

I live in China, and very few bikes stop for red lights. The only time I do stop is where there are too many cars to push through.

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Going from right to left in your pic, I'd get on the line marking the bike lane, or even to the left of it just a bit. That would put me between the right-turning car and the one going straight. I don't really feel "sandwiched" between cars like that, because the one turning right is turning away from me, and I don't have to worry about the one going straight, either.

This is one of those times when being next to a car's front fender is pretty safe. The driver of the stopped car can see me, and it's impossible for the right-turning car to hit me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Bike/stop2.jpg

Yeah, that is the best place to stop.. the trouble is that some motorists stop on the edge of the bike lane dash, so there is like 6" of room for a normal sized sedan to get through, and then somebody in a SUV will try to squeeze through after seeing the sedan go through! I do stop there when the motorist on the thru-lane leave enough space.

About stopping further out into the intersection, I won't do that... you are right in the kill-zone if somebody on the cross-road messes up their left-turn. Either their car will come flying at you after it's been hit or the guy will swerve to avoid their car and take you out. I've had a close call with this once. I like to hide behind the cars now.

Those two reasons are basically why I sometimes have to use option 2 instead of 3 and just get honked at.

Do police make a point to write you a ticket if you don't stop?

stop if it's a four-way intersection, regardless of whether it looks clear.

keep going if it's a three-way intersection and looks clear. (yes we have more than a few three-way intersections with lights in Mass)

I used to do options 1 and 3. After a few near misses from lawn service truck mirrors and getting squished onto the curb by mindless SUV drivers, I hold my position and make them wait. I'm a pretty big guy and I have a helmet and blinking lights frt and rear, I figure that keeps the honking to a minimum.

I was following standard procedure today when a minivan pulled up behind me, no blinker. I sat there and watched and.... his right blinker came on, so I moved up and to the left to let him make his turn. When he came up beside me he rolled down his window and said, "Thank you!" It made my morning.