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Old 05-20-10 | 06:05 PM
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Pump or CO2 Inflator

Hey all,

I am looking to get a mini pump or a CO2 inflator. Any suggestions? Looking for something fairly cheap but decently good. Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-20-10 | 06:16 PM
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Pump. If you don't get it right the first time, you can always pump again.
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Old 05-20-10 | 06:19 PM
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Topeak RoadMorph or Mt.Morph pump. Light, morphs into a mini-floor (really!) pump with expandable hose, footrest and guage. Around 25-30 bucks.
Mini Pumps: mine took 300 pump strokes to get road tire up to about 80 PSI; with the Mt.Morph it took 100 pump wstrokes to get in 100 PSI.
CO2 is fast/easy but you don't get FREE air. Not as enviromentally friendly.
Anybody can make something 'cheap' . . . but quality lasts!
Just our input . . .
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Old 05-20-10 | 06:47 PM
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I have both on my "fun" bike. I figure the CO2 will be faster and keep the group ride from waiting too long (or minimize the gap I have to cover!) if I flat, but the pump is a good backup in case I screw it up like usual! My beater/commuter only has a big ol' frame pump on it...
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Old 05-20-10 | 07:00 PM
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I have a "Second Wind" combo pump and CO2. I primarily use the CO2 when needed, but I have the pump there as a backup. Best of both worlds.

Looks like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Innova.../dp/B0009SWKCO
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Old 05-20-10 | 07:34 PM
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Both, CO2 for your main, but always nice to have a pump you KNOW will work.
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Old 05-20-10 | 11:47 PM
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Pump with air gauge built in
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Old 05-21-10 | 04:07 AM
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If you value speed, get CO2... If you value certainty get a pump. Anything made by Lezyne is awesome.
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Old 05-21-10 | 04:26 AM
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Topeak RoadMorph or Mt.Morph pump. .
+1 -- I got 20% off mine at REI.....they have the same coupon going right now too
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Old 05-21-10 | 05:17 AM
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Pump. It prevents the urge to discard the empty containers on the side of the road as many roadies in NYC do. And yeah, Topeak RoadMorph, there is no better portable pump.
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Old 05-21-10 | 11:43 AM
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Since my wife got me a CO2 kit and have used it, my mini pumps sit in a garage somewhere. Love 'em!
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Old 05-21-10 | 11:45 AM
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Topeak Road-Morphs for me. CO2 seems like a good idea, but knowing my luck with Murphy's law, its really a rather bad idea.
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Old 05-21-10 | 11:46 AM
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I used the CO2 cans before. the pump is something you only have to buy one time and it will last you for years.
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Old 05-21-10 | 12:00 PM
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Pump fan here. Never used CO2 before, but don't see the need either. I've had a sum total of three flat tires in 3,000 miles of commuting year round. I don't mind taking an extra two minutes to actually pump up the tire. Besides, one of the reasons I bike is for exercise. A pump can be a decent arm workout!

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I used the CO2 cans before. the pump is something you only have to buy one time and it will last you for years...
As long as you get a pump from a reputable company. (+1 on the Topeaks). I once had a cheap Schwinn pump from Target I got for $8. It lasted two inflations before falling apart.
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Old 05-21-10 | 04:14 PM
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I had CO2, presumably for speed/weight. I carried two bottles. Last flat I had, I realized that:
1. I tried to get enough air in to limp home, but the leak was faster than I thought (ever happen to you?). So I patched it, but the patch was bad, and now I was out both bottles, with a flat tire. Still had patches left, and a spare tube if I could air it up.
2. I later weighed the (empty!) CO2 bottles/system against the Road Morph G. The Road Morph G was heaver. By 10 grams. I can live with that.
3. I realized that fiddling with the CO2 bottles--getting them situated in to the delivery mechanism--it took a non-negligible amount of time. I had to unscrew the carrier, insert the bottle, screw it back on to puncture...etc. Obviously this could be faster maybe with a better designed system, but the pump is grab and go. I think it took literally 60 seconds to air up my tires. I can live with that.
4. I compared the volume of the two systems. They're comparable. CO2 has an edge in that it's a neat little square package. But it has more "fiddly bits" to keep track of.

So it seemed a wash more or less, except my pump works as many times as I care for it to. So I switched back to the pump.

(I also sprung for Specialized Armadillos at the same time. I'd rather not flat at all of course.)
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Old 05-21-10 | 04:37 PM
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I find CO2 works more effectively with high pressure 700c tires. Not so much with lower pressure 26". They can't seem to fill the volume that a fat tube requires well. Need a few cartridges.
Whereas they have strong psi to fill the thinner 700c tires in the way, a mini pump would begin to get difficult to work as it advances 80psi+.
So for low pressure tires, a mini pump is fine whilst CO2 are great with roadie tires. YMMV of course.
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Old 05-21-10 | 05:24 PM
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Just be sure to try out your pump before you actually need it. Don't be like me.... get a flat 10 miles from home 1 hour before sunset and find out that your new pump won't engage your tire's valve properly.
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Old 05-21-10 | 05:25 PM
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Topeak Road Morph all the way. However I do carry the smallest CO2 in my purse just in case if someone stole my pump off my bike while park, and Murphy law say I will get a flat right after someone steal my pump.
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Old 05-22-10 | 04:51 AM
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Depends. I rarely carry a full pump on fun rides because I have nowhere to put it. Recently I ran out of CO2 so I've been toting the Road Morph in the backpack during commuting. It's a very neat little gadget. I take it when I travel with my bike, too.
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Old 05-22-10 | 05:08 AM
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Depends. I rarely carry a full pump on fun rides because I have nowhere to put it. Recently I ran out of CO2 so I've been toting the Road Morph in the backpack during commuting. It's a very neat little gadget. I take it when I travel with my bike, too.

That is why I am patiently waiting for my seatpost/pump. I figure I have to have a seatpost anyway so if I can pump my tires too, so much the better.
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Old 05-25-10 | 02:00 PM
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Pump, mainly because I don't want to have more stuff that's disposable. Road Morph is pretty good. I can get my road tires up to about 90 PSI relatively easily, which is good enough to ride on.
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