Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

My work location is not commuter friendly......

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

My work location is not commuter friendly......

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-08-10 | 09:32 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: bay area california.

Bikes: specialized p. all mountain

My work location is not bike friendly......

So I just moved closer to my job (10 miles round trip). So i decided to start commuting on my bike. I bought some slicks for my mtb. then road into work for the first time. I work at a airport and I tried to ride through a access gate (where cars can get throught) and the guard refused me access. I have security badges and all.... I ask why? And he said that it was for vehicles only and that i would have to go through the terminal with my bike to get it onto the aircraft apon (tarmac)... That would be a royal pain in the a**... Theres tons of people, and about 3 doors i would have to go through. ( no metal detectors. thank god). So I did eventually get it through and I started riding my bike on access road and i got pulled over by airport ops. He told me to get off my bike and that personal cyles werent allowed on the airport.... I tried to explain to him that i was on a perimeter acess road (not near the buslte of the airplane operations) and I was in no saftey hazard area... We argued for a bit, i made him quite furious. he called his supervisor who just told me to walk my bike and to not bring it. Defusing the situation for the moment... I'M NOT DONE WITH THIS... Does any body have any advice for combating this issue?

Last edited by rollem; 06-08-10 at 09:42 AM.
rollem is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 10:15 AM
  #2  
Doohickie's Avatar
You gonna eat that?
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 14,917
Likes: 543
From: Fort Worth, Texas Church of Hopeful Uncertainty

Bikes: 1966 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist, 1973 Schwinn Varsity, 1983 Raleigh Marathon, 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS

How close would you be able to get with your car? Maybe see if there is anything you can work out with security or airport ops about riding the bike since it is your commuting vehicle. Maybe some muckity muck at the airport can issue (or instruct security to issue) a special bike pass for you. Check security procedures if they are available to employees and see if a bike ridden into the employee lot actually breaks any rules.

Also.... any chance of parking the bike at a perimeter lot and taking a shuttle to your work location?

Unfortuantely, airports are all about teh securiteez these days.
__________________
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.


Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
Doohickie is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 10:27 AM
  #3  
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 23,208
Likes: 10,653
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by rollem
And he said that it was for vehicles only and that ...
Your bike is a vehicle. That's why a lot of signs and laws talk about "motor vehicles," to distinguish from other ones. Anyway, unfortunately, that's all I've got. Hopefully the smarter people in the forum will have better advice for you.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 10:42 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 684
Likes: 8
From: Jersey City, NJ

Bikes: Jamis Coda Elite - custom 1x9 setup

that's bizarre. if a car can go there why can't a bike? if it is for security, you can do much more damage with a car and all the carrying capacity that comes along with it.
idiotekniQues is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 10:55 AM
  #5  
chipcom's Avatar
Infamous Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 24,360
Likes: 6
From: Ohio

Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi

Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Your bike is a vehicle. That's why a lot of signs and laws talk about "motor vehicles," to distinguish from other ones. Anyway, unfortunately, that's all I've got. Hopefully the smarter people in the forum will have better advice for you.
Unfortunately he seems to be in California, where a bike is not considered a vehicle under the law, though they do have the same rights and responsibilities.
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 12:41 PM
  #6  
rumrunn6's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,465
Likes: 4,547
From: 25 miles northwest of Boston

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

give it up
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 01:01 PM
  #7  
wunderkind's Avatar
Pro Paper Plane Pilot
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,645
Likes: 3
Sorry to hear that. But as the above poster mention, there's BC, AD and now... 9/11. We live in different eras since that fateful day. Maybe you can install an electric battery pack and tell 'em it's a motorized vehicle now. hahahahaha
wunderkind is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 01:31 PM
  #8  
chipcom's Avatar
Infamous Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 24,360
Likes: 6
From: Ohio

Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi

Originally Posted by wunderkind
Sorry to hear that. But as the above poster mention, there's BC, AD and now... 9/11. We live in different eras since that fateful day. Maybe you can install an electric battery pack and tell 'em it's a motorized vehicle now. hahahahaha
hmm, you might be on to something here - a fake engine, a few sound effects...
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 01:44 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 737
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton, Canada
It's not a public road, so most of the usual legal wrangling ("same rights and responsibilities") that we usually pull out won't cut it. This is more of an office politics issue than anything else.
1) Find out what policies, if any, actually bar you from riding a bike on the perimeter road. People enforcing the "rules" should be able to point out what rule it is that they're enforcing.
2) Whether there's a real policy or not, contact whoever's in charge of employee health, environmental issues, or similar. Most large employers have at least one. If there's a policy, you're trying to get them to change it. If there's not, you're fishing for a memo clarifying the status of bikes on airport property. Escalate if you get no response.

In general, I would expect that anywhere you could bring a private vehicle, you should be able to bring a bike. I would be surprised if there's anything actually barring you from biking on the perimeter road. As others have pointed out, there's no way there can be a security issue with a bike that doesn't exist with a car, and if you're not in areas where there are aircraft, bike safety is no different from any other road.

However, even from a public perspective, airports are usually amongst the most bike-unfriendly facilities imaginable. So do what you can, but don't be surprised if you are eventually just knocking your head against a wall.
neil is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-10 | 07:09 PM
  #10  
Grim's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,978
Likes: 4
From: Atlanta

Bikes: Cannondale T700s and a few others

Call Transportation Secretary Lahoods office and complain.
https://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6394904.shtml

His facebook and it looks like it is actually manned!
https://www.facebook.com/sec.lahood
Grim is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:39 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 450
Likes: 4
Quit that job and find something better. The simplest fix. A place where their own employees are treated in that way - no place where I would even think about working. It aint't theirs bussiness what kind of transportation you take going to work. If they are behaving in this way, ditch 'em and find a better job. Something with actual respect for their own workers.
whitecat is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:42 AM
  #12  
Soma Roark's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 378
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA

Bikes: Trek 600 Series, Miyata 610, Palo Alto Touring, Schwinn Paramountain

Fight it!
Soma Roark is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:55 AM
  #13  
making's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,805
Likes: 868
From: Greenwood Indiana

Bikes: Surly Crosscheck

Park a clown car by the back gate and put a bike rack on it. When you get there throw the bike on the rack and ride the clown car the rest of the way in.
__________________
Good Night Chesty, Wherever You Are
making is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 06:03 AM
  #14  
JonathanGennick's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,129
Likes: 56
From: Munising, Michigan, USA

Bikes: Priority 600, Priority Continuum, Devinci Dexter

Don't approach the problem from an argumentative standpoint. Tell your boss that you want to bike to work. Ask about secure parking. What you really want is a place to safely leave your bike, and then a way to get from there to your job location.
JonathanGennick is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 06:04 AM
  #15  
making's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,805
Likes: 868
From: Greenwood Indiana

Bikes: Surly Crosscheck

Hey, would they let you chain your bike to the fence? Sounds like it would be very secure there.
__________________
Good Night Chesty, Wherever You Are
making is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 06:28 AM
  #16  
vtjim's Avatar
Belt drive!
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,614
Likes: 0
From: Burlington, Vermont

Bikes: 2011 Trek Soho DLX

Bikes are toys, don't you know.

A couple of us ride our bikes to KBTV, walk them through the GA terminal, and then ride out and leave them in the hangar to go fly. Nobody bats an eyelash, but then we're not going through any sterile areas, either.
vtjim is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 04:40 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: bay area california.

Bikes: specialized p. all mountain

Thanks for the input guys. I thinks it pretty funny when the airport is considered a GREEN airport.. i.e. solar paneling, electric vehicles. and they wont let you bring a bike in..lol. So i've talked with my manager and he gave me the number to the operations. so me and a few coworkers are gonna call them and complain. also i'm gonna write a letter and have as many people sign it that i can. I wouldnt mind locking it up. but ive lost a few bikes to theft soo i really dont wanna do that. we do have trucks at work so i thought i can just throw it in the back and drive it through but i think thats rediculous but if i have to do that then i will.. So if i cant get through to these morons then i'll just be a thorn in there side cause i will bugg the sh*t out of then... and maybe play pranks on them. chock there truck tires, grease door handles. but thats a bit childish but fun at times..lol
rollem is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:12 PM
  #18  
colleen c's Avatar
I am a caffine girl
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,815
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area

Bikes: 2012 Stumpjumper FSR Comp...2010 Scott CR1 CF...2007 Novara FS Float2.0...2009 Specialized Hardrock Disc...2009 Schwinn Le Tour GSr

Originally Posted by rollem
Thanks for the input guys. I thinks it pretty funny when the airport is considered a GREEN airport.. i.e. solar paneling, electric vehicles. and they wont let you bring a bike in..lol
You must be refering to SJ int. The Mayor and his Green Vision plan. Write to the city and tell them his plan is not working so well when you have to do a "Carry On" to park your wheels. That might raise some eyebrows.
colleen c is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:27 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,840
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA

Bikes: Bianchi San Remo - set up as a utility bike, Peter Mooney Road bike, Peter Mooney commute bike,Dahon Folder,Schwinn Paramount Tandem

I have flown in and out of San Jose, and have used my bike to get to and from the airport. It does surprise me that with the big re-do that they have done (supposed to be finished in a couple weeks - right?) emphasizing green with the solar panels and all, that they have such poor bicycle facilities. I wrote a letter requesting better bike parking facilities (I'd like to see lockers for an airport, where it is reasonable to expect that you would leave your bike for a while), but got a reply talking about how the security risk for lockers was just too high - yet as others have mentioned, they don't have a problem with my parking a van in the parking lot.

We're not quite there yet.
sauerwald is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:33 PM
  #20  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: bay area california.

Bikes: specialized p. all mountain

Im at the OAKLAND airport.. but writing the city could be effective..
rollem is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:45 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,744
Likes: 2
From: Toronto, Ontario

Bikes: Miele Azsora, Kuwahara Cascade

If there's really such a green initiative going on, it might be worthwhile to try and get the press involved. Averting PR disaster=fancy new bike rack for you.
jtgotsjets is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 05:45 PM
  #22  
colleen c's Avatar
I am a caffine girl
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,815
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area

Bikes: 2012 Stumpjumper FSR Comp...2010 Scott CR1 CF...2007 Novara FS Float2.0...2009 Specialized Hardrock Disc...2009 Schwinn Le Tour GSr

Emphasize on how Bart can accommodate bicyclist and with the future expansion plan of bart direct to Oakland airport, they need to start planning accommodation for bicyclist.
colleen c is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 06:04 PM
  #23  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: bay area california.

Bikes: specialized p. all mountain

Originally Posted by sauerwald
I have flown in and out of San Jose, and have used my bike to get to and from the airport. It does surprise me that with the big re-do that they have done (supposed to be finished in a couple weeks - right?) emphasizing green with the solar panels and all, that they have such poor bicycle facilities. I wrote a letter requesting better bike parking facilities (I'd like to see lockers for an airport, where it is reasonable to expect that you would leave your bike for a while), but got a reply talking about how the security risk for lockers was just too high - yet as others have mentioned, they don't have a problem with my parking a van in the parking lot.

We're not quite there yet.

I mean it's just a bike. why do they make such a big deal about it.. Why is there security issues with lockers? There probaly scared somebody would use them for putting bombs in them...
rollem is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 06:05 PM
  #24  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: bay area california.

Bikes: specialized p. all mountain

Originally Posted by jtgotsjets
If there's really such a green initiative going on, it might be worthwhile to try and get the press involved. Averting PR disaster=fancy new bike rack for you.
sweet....
rollem is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-10 | 07:18 PM
  #25  
dahut's Avatar
Ridin' South Cackalacky
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,918
Likes: 2
I'd say shoot for the top.

Avoid the petty badges, truck guards and functionaries with a bit of low-level power.
Their goal will be to always keep control over their turf and avoid any heat from their superiors. Understanding is not in their vocabulary - "NO!" is, as you've learned.

Flatly put, they haven't been actually told that it is "okay" for you to ride in - - so it isn't. They call this singular blindness, "just doing our job," and its hard to argue with that, these days. I work with security folks everyday and see it continuously.

Continuing with them is a waste of time... so do something different.

Contact the Airport Director, instead. If you have a chain of command that must be adhered to, then start there as you must. But plant to go the top. If you only "work there" in some service position, a mechanic etc., don't waste your time with protocol.
Airport security is FAR more stringent than it used to be, so beating against their wall is most likely a waste.

Go the person who has the time to hear a well thought out plan, from a clear headed individual who understands all sides... and who has the power to act on your behalf above the security wogs. Plead your case to that person.**

** This is a pretty good place to start:

Call Transportation Secretary Lahoods office and complain.
https://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6394904.shtml

PS And as for the airport being Eco-Green, that is a federal mandate and a public relations gig. The only person who may care about that at the individual level IS someone near the top...

Last edited by dahut; 06-09-10 at 07:38 PM.
dahut is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.