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Old 07-02-10 | 10:48 AM
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The correct answer is pie
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Old 07-02-10 | 11:05 AM
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Apple, cherry, pumpkin, rhubarb, mince meat, pot, peach, etc?
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Mmmmmm....rhubarb....
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Old 07-02-10 | 11:21 AM
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Nothing in MPH, but an ocean of joy when I hop off a curb and the point of my saddle doesn't get rammed into my grundle when a foot slips off the pedal
Toe clips, no straps, pretty much does that for me. I can't remember ever slipping out of those.
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Old 07-02-10 | 11:59 AM
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Apple, cherry, pumpkin, rhubarb, mince meat, pot, peach, etc?
3.14159265 of each please.
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Depends on how much faster you pedal.
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Old 07-02-10 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chipcom
3.14159265 of each please.
That is pi, not pie LOL
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Old 07-02-10 | 12:15 PM
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Maybe a mile per hour at best. I doubt even that though. Clipless pedals take time to get used to, in terms of skill and muscular development. Most of the benefit comes when climbing or sprinting.
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Originally Posted by GeneO
That is pi, not pie LOL
ya think? Wow, it doesn't take a piano to fall on your head to see the obvious.
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Originally Posted by groovestew
Mmmmmm....rhubarb....
One little thing can revive a guy, and that is a piece of rhubarb pie
Serve it up, nice and hot
Maybe things aren't as bad as you thought.

Momma's little baby loves rhubarb rhubarb,
Be-Bop-A-Re-Bop Rhubarb Pie!
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Those of you who think that most of the benefit comes when climbing or sprinting, are probably not pedalling very efficiently. If you are pedalling nice round circles, then you're significantly more efficient with clipless pedals. I don't think it can be answered in how many mph. It will depend on timeframe & what sort of speed you're trying to maintain. In a short burst, it may not be real significant. However, I am significantly faster over a longer period because I can employ different muscles. I've done simple tests with a heart rate monitor & varying how efficiently I pedal. Not real scientific, but when I change from just pushing on the downstroke to trying to pedal perfect circles, my speed will increase from 20 to 22mph while my "perceived effort" decreases. Heart rate, however, increases. This is due to the wattage that I'm producing has increased. The "perceived effort" has decreased because I'm employing more than just my quads to produce that wattage.



Personally, I'd probably be about 20mph slower with platforms since I've only ridden with them a handful of times in the last 17 years. The last time I did, I really had a hard time keeping my feet on the pedals.
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Old 07-02-10 | 02:14 PM
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Those of you who think that most of the benefit comes when climbing or sprinting, are probably not pedalling very efficiently. If you are pedalling nice round circles, then you're significantly more efficient with clipless pedals.
Wow, magical thinking about pedals. what a shock!
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Those of you who think that most of the benefit comes when climbing or sprinting, are probably not pedalling very efficiently. If you are pedalling nice round circles, then you're significantly more efficient with clipless pedals.
So.... you're saying that with platforms I don't pedal round circles? I've done centuries with platforms, no problems.

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t 20mph slower with platforms since I've only ridden with them a handful of times in the last 17 years. The last time I did, I really had a hard time keeping my feet on the pedals.
I'm sorry, I'm very sorry... Personally, I never have such problems. I've seen claims like that several times and they make me sad, really. If you can't ride a bike because you it doesn't have clipless pedals on it there is something terribly wrong. I really hope you're just trying to be funny.

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So.... you're saying that with platforms I don't pedal round circles? I've done centuries with platforms, no problems.
Its a well established and known fact that on platforms, you make a decagon shape instead, and with clipless you make perfect circles.

Clips and straps are usually somewhere between dodecagons and ovals.
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No. With anything but clipless pedals, you make a death spiral.
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Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
Best guess is .75 mph. At least .50 and any claim of results over 1.50 is very suspect. Part of the differences will depend on how much the rider pulls with clipless.
I gained 3+ kph (2+ mph) as I have some cheap super go mountain bike pedals on my cromoly commuter (weighs about 30 lbs unloaded) over my Felt F75 which weighs about half, and I only have clipless on the Felt at the moment.

I got a big jump as the mountain bike pedals feel as though they have been bent as my feet and shoes (the soles don't) now feel like they are rolling off the pedals. And as I alternate between the two when commuting and fun rides is when it is most notable.

I'm probably going to get a pair of clipless for commuting when I replace my cromoly commuter.
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ya think? Wow, it doesn't take a piano to fall on your head to see the obvious.
I guess it is just your humor is so subtle
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Originally Posted by mikeshoup
Its a well established and known fact that on platforms, you make a decagon shape instead, and with clipless you make perfect circles.

Clips and straps are usually somewhere between dodecagons and ovals.
You're doing something wrong. With platforms, you make truncated icosahedrons.
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Originally Posted by GeneO
I guess it is just your humor is so subtle
Yeah, sometimes I forget you newer folks ain't used to me yet.
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Originally Posted by mikeshoup
Its a well established and known fact that on platforms, you make a decagon shape instead, and with clipless you make perfect circles.

Clips and straps are usually somewhere between dodecagons and ovals.
Don't lay your geometry on me, man.
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Rode with the plastic pedals today, right one with bad bearings, and swear I lost a good 5 mph from running with metal pedals w/ clips and straps.

It was sprinkling so I didn't dare stand up on those slippery little beasts.
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Is the OP interested in knowing the speed gain in going from toe clips to power grips to clipless pedals? Or, just from 'platform' to clipless?
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I assumed from no foot retention to clipless when I arrived at my completely bogus (but good as any other) figure of 1.75 mph, but the OP wasn't very precise in his/her post.
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Originally Posted by mikeshoup
Its a well established and known fact that on platforms, you make a decagon shape instead, and with clipless you make perfect circles.

Clips and straps are usually somewhere between dodecagons and ovals.
I can ride perfect circles around most folks here. I do get a tad dizzy though.
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I haven't ridden platforms in over a decade so I can't tell you for sure. It's a rare thing to be passed by someone not clipped in though. If you are wondering if it is worth it to get clipless pedals, I would say yes without a doubt unless you are a DH or freestyle mountain biker or BMX'er.

Anyone who answers that clipless doesn't make you faster except on hills, over long distances, while sprinting, when wearing cycling shoes, when tired etc.... really just mean to say yes, they make you faster.
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