Ways to improve night-time side visibility?
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I use a lighted reflective vest, reflective sidewall tires, reflective dork bands, and a Down Low Glow to take care of side visibility. I am probably going to get some Bike Brightz in the not too distant future. They appear to serve a similar function as the DLG, but, have the advantage that they use regular AA batteries.
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You could always put one of these on your head.
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Great ideas all around, but whatever you go with, do NOT use reflective tape. Once the stuff is on your frame it is going to be a serious struggle to get it off. Trust me, I've done it and regretted it.
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Then again, I was using films, not tape...
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I use Lightweights in addition to the retroreflective trim on my clothes and trunk bag.
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I use a lighted reflective vest, reflective sidewall tires, reflective dork bands, and a Down Low Glow to take care of side visibility. I am probably going to get some Bike Brightz in the not too distant future. They appear to serve a similar function as the DLG, but, have the advantage that they use regular AA batteries.
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It's easy to get carried away with this stuff, isn't it, because there's no obvious "enough is enough" point.
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I think it took about a half an hour, maybe 45 minutes total for both wheels . Cleaning the spokes took the most time and helps the stickers to adhere better. The tape wraps around the spokes completely and lines up using a guide they supply with the kit.
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Night stuff--> https://www.streetglo.net/
Rim stuff--> https://www.streetglo.net/rim.shot.re...heel.tape.html
Rim stuff--> https://www.streetglo.net/rim.shot.re...heel.tape.html
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Planet Bike BRT Strap, I think it's a pretty good, You can strap it anywhere, I normally ride with it on my left arm at night, by my elbow.


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I'll add this tip. After cleaning the spokes, put the bike on a stand, or invert it. Take a sharpie and the alignment guide that comes with the Lightweights and mark the position of all the stickers. After marking, then proceed to apply them.
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Ordered the yellow BikeBrightz tonight, so that should help a lot on my rural road night rides. I might rig it with a handlebar mounted remote so it isn't killing my eyes' dark adjustment when there's no traffic for miles, though.
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Reflective tape is rigid, and prone to unpeel when wrapped around a small radius (such as a spoke). Lightweights are a very flexible (almost rubbery) material, and don't unpeel. Performance bike carries it in house, so if you're near one of them, you could save the shipping.
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I also agree that the side lighting/reflectors do you little good.
I use a helmet mounted HID light that I can direct just below the drivers eyes to catch their attention if it appears they may fail to properly yield to me. Worked every time over the last several years.
I use a helmet mounted HID light that I can direct just below the drivers eyes to catch their attention if it appears they may fail to properly yield to me. Worked every time over the last several years.
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Reflective tape is rigid, and prone to unpeel when wrapped around a small radius (such as a spoke). Lightweights are a very flexible (almost rubbery) material, and don't unpeel. Performance bike carries it in house, so if you're near one of them, you could save the shipping.
I have thought about buying some of the retroreflective microspheres and using them to coat spokes, but I'm not sure what adhesive would be tough enough for the varying compression/tension of the spokes under load.
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Agreed.
Reflective sidewall tires work great and can be seen at great distances. I have tested mine with an LED flashlight and they light up a long distance away. I've bought my Conti GP 4000s with reflective sidewalls for about $25 apiece when probikekit.com had them on sale. Worth every penny. Reflective ankle bands are an inexpensive way to add sideways (and rear) visibility. Not only do they light up well, but the motion catches peoples' eyes.
Reflective sidewall tires work great and can be seen at great distances. I have tested mine with an LED flashlight and they light up a long distance away. I've bought my Conti GP 4000s with reflective sidewalls for about $25 apiece when probikekit.com had them on sale. Worth every penny. Reflective ankle bands are an inexpensive way to add sideways (and rear) visibility. Not only do they light up well, but the motion catches peoples' eyes.
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So are they just little tape strips, or is there something special about them? The price with shipping is 10x what a roll of reflector tape costs, (and I can get reflector tape in other colors) and I may have access to a computerized cutter if there's a special shape.
Ordered the yellow BikeBrightz tonight, so that should help a lot on my rural road night rides. I might rig it with a handlebar mounted remote so it isn't killing my eyes' dark adjustment when there's no traffic for miles, though.
Ordered the yellow BikeBrightz tonight, so that should help a lot on my rural road night rides. I might rig it with a handlebar mounted remote so it isn't killing my eyes' dark adjustment when there's no traffic for miles, though.
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Agreed.
Reflective sidewall tires work great and can be seen at great distances. I have tested mine with an LED flashlight and they light up a long distance away. I've bought my Conti GP 4000s with reflective sidewalls for about $25 apiece when probikekit.com had them on sale. Worth every penny. Reflective ankle bands are an inexpensive way to add sideways (and rear) visibility. Not only do they light up well, but the motion catches peoples' eyes.
Reflective sidewall tires work great and can be seen at great distances. I have tested mine with an LED flashlight and they light up a long distance away. I've bought my Conti GP 4000s with reflective sidewalls for about $25 apiece when probikekit.com had them on sale. Worth every penny. Reflective ankle bands are an inexpensive way to add sideways (and rear) visibility. Not only do they light up well, but the motion catches peoples' eyes.
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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Sounds interesting, but I doubt I'll pay that for each of the 4 (currently - at least two more in the near future plans) usable bikes in the family. I'm experimenting right now with three 1.5x.75" strips of amber Scotchlite spaced 90 degrees apart on the inner surface of the rims, with the 4th space being red on the rear and white on the front. The theory is that one should be in view at all times from any angle except straight ahead, behind or 90 degrees to either side (front/rear lights, reflectors, and Scotchlite pinstriping have those directions well-covered) and the broken pattern of movement should be more attention-getting than a fully covered rim.
I have thought about buying some of the retroreflective microspheres and using them to coat spokes, but I'm not sure what adhesive would be tough enough for the varying compression/tension of the spokes under load.
I have thought about buying some of the retroreflective microspheres and using them to coat spokes, but I'm not sure what adhesive would be tough enough for the varying compression/tension of the spokes under load.
Microspheres? I've got over a pound of them, don't bother. In my surface mounted applications, I found that they weren't much use. Besides, you'd probably waste more time/weight/money on that compared to Lightweights. Since then I tried marking a trail hazard by mixing them w/some fresh sprayed paint but the results were underwhelming.

Orange spraypaint and a dusting of reflective microspheres just after application.
Sure it looked good on the night I did it, but after a few weeks/rains, it greatly diminished in its value. However the paint did mark the location for me, and others, so it wasn't a complete loss. The trail has since been repaved, so this is no longer a hazard.
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Sure it looked good on the night I did it, but after a few weeks/rains, it greatly diminished in its value. However the paint did mark the location for me, and others, so it wasn't a complete loss. The trail has since been repaved, so this is no longer a hazard.







