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Old 09-01-10, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by groovestew
I avoid any long stretches of gravel when on my road bike (23mm tires). One of my route variations has a ~100 meter gravel section that I'll take, but that's about it. Another route variation has about a mile of gravel path, but I only ride that on my MTB or cross bike.
10 miles like this (7 ascending, 3 descending). The guy on the right was riding 23 front, 25 rear.
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I don't really don't commute for work, I need a van with tools....but when I ride my road bike most of the paths are crushed lime stone, I do them on 25's and have done them on 23's. The 25's seem fine. Actually the city streets here are rougher than the gravel paths.
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Originally Posted by bhop
I don't think there are any unpaved roads in L.A., at least not anywhere near my commute, but if there were, I would avoid them.
this.

having said that, our paved roads are more "paved" in that plenty of them look rather bombed out. if you've seen 40 year old virgin, there's a scene where he endo's in a pothole... we have plenty of those, that deep
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
This might sound counter intuitive, and maybe it's just bad luck, but I always seem to get MORE flats on thicker tires than I do on thinner ones. I suspect some of that is that I'm probably more careful with my road bikes. Logic would certainly seem to say you'd be right, but I've experienced the opposite.

I'm not sure why you'd think roadie brakes would be compromised...the two pivot side pulls I have on my Merlin, De Rosa and Merckx are all positively teeth breakers. The single pivots on my Raleigh Pro are substantially weaker.
It's not the brakes, it's the tires. I'm not sure this is true, so take it with a grain of salt, but on crushed stone trails a panic stop seems to depend on plowing as much gravel as possible, which a wider tire should do better (especially with knobbies). This is similar to stopping a car on loose gravel or deep snow, the one case where ABS works against you (you want to push the gravel / snow in front of the tire rather than rolling over it).
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There are no unpaved roads or paths available for me to use on my commute. Some of the paths have very poor pavement, and my shortest route has been ground down and grooved in preparation for repaving. I avoid these bumpy routes when I can.

I once planned a long bike ride in an unfamiliar area using a map without realizing that one of the important connections was a gravel road. I managed to ride it okay on 23s.
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To get onto a nice paved MUP that wraps around my city, I have a few hundred feet to go on a loose gravel entrance. While my 23's aren't ideal for that surface, I certainly don't feel unsafe for that limited stretch. I don't mind crushed limestone at all.

I would say my least favorite surface is wet wooden bridges. Those are a little slick with narrow road tires!
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Originally Posted by wunderkind
Just wondering if fellow roadies take their roadbikes on crushed gravel paths as part of their commutes or flat out re-route their commute to avoid them at all cost?
For me since I've put on some fatter 25mm tires, I've been mixing in with gravel trails. So far so good.
I have a touring bike set-up as my primary ride, and I have some heavy duty tyres on there which can handle gravel, but I still try to avoid it if at all possible for a few reasons:

1. I have a cervical spine injury, and just a hundred yards of gravel puts me in serious pain for a day or two.
2. My commute usually involves transporting my daughter (on a trail-a-bike) to school or other activities. If I slip on gravel I'm pretty sure I'll be fine, but if she goes over it's a lot more dangerous and scary for her.
3. Gravel usually means a poorly designed and poorly administered path - I'm safer on the road.
4. I don't like wearing out my tyres and I hate fixing flats.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Yes roadies are absolutly terrified of anything that's unpaved. It has to be paved and smooth as glass or they can't ride it. I have never seen a roadie on an unpaved MUP.
How many "roadies" do you know?

When I lived in western Massachusetts, I and all the local roadies would bomb the dirt roads at high speed. Regular rides didn't go over dirt because it wasn't necessary and because it's not a good idea to take new riders on roads that will make them uncomfortable, but me and lots of other road riders have no problem riding dirt roads on 23mm tires. But there are few enough dirt roads these days that the best routes don't go over unpaved roads.

As for commuting, I've never had a route that required riding an unpaved road, but if the choice was to take that route or extend the length of my commute, I would ride the dirt.

Of course, not all unpaved roads are the same. Deep or coarse gravel is difficult and even dangerous to ride on skinny tires. I would dare say, though, that most of the dirt roads you would recognize as actual roads are completely rideable.
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I take a rockish/gravely/hardpacked dirt trail on my commute about 300 yards long. Its a service route for emergency vehicles and what not. Local police said they didn't mind me on it. I have 28mm on my road commuter and it handles well. I do slow down quite a bit and try to avoid the larger rocks and divots. Only alternative is trying to cross a very very nasty intersection
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Solution is a Cyclo-Cross commuter with 700x38C tires. I ride on everything with that.
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Originally Posted by bengreen79
To get onto a nice paved MUP that wraps around my city, I have a few hundred feet to go on a loose gravel entrance. While my 23's aren't ideal for that surface, I certainly don't feel unsafe for that limited stretch. I don't mind crushed limestone at all.

I would say my least favorite surface is wet wooden bridges. Those are a little slick with narrow road tires!
+1 on that. They're even pretty scary on 38s especially when the frost comes on in the mornings.
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