Who here is afraid of getting killed while commuting?
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Ive always felt that when i die it will be in a freak accident. Dunno why... im a pretty careful person.. i dont even get on rides at theme parks. Ive been commuting 12mi a day 3 times a week for the past 2months and as im ridding sometimes i think to myself how vulnerable i am on the road. So i make sure to pray everyday and never take risks no matter how fun they appear... lame i know I stop at all ligts and stop signs even if there no cars, cuz i want to get a habit of following traffic laws.
So i would say YES.. im affraid of getting killed while commuting... but if im affraid, then why do i continue to do it?
However, I do hate the fact that i have yet to crash on my bike... i want to get that part over with! Has anyone here not had a single crash? (ie.. ran into something.. fell off.. etc)
So i would say YES.. im affraid of getting killed while commuting... but if im affraid, then why do i continue to do it?
However, I do hate the fact that i have yet to crash on my bike... i want to get that part over with! Has anyone here not had a single crash? (ie.. ran into something.. fell off.. etc)
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I am not scared for myself or my family and loved ones. I am scared for the rest of the world because I am going to become the leader of Earth. I will also cure cancer, discover new dance crazes, solve world hunger, invent a toilet that uses less water, and restore balance to the force. I am afraid that if I die the world will be missing out on good things to come from me. Its your loss not mine.
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"Who here is afraid of getting killed while commuting?"
This title is plain bad and stupid. If anyone feels fear of being killed doing anything, it should not be done.
This title is plain bad and stupid. If anyone feels fear of being killed doing anything, it should not be done.
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I am not scared for myself or my family and loved ones. I am scared for the rest of the world because I am going to become the leader of Earth. I will also cure cancer, discover new dance crazes, solve world hunger, invent a toilet that uses less water, and restore balance to the force. I am afraid that if I die the world will be missing out on good things to come from me. Its your loss not mine.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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Let's not downplay the value of safety precautions. We really don't know how often that extra bit of visibility to drivers has saved our hides. I do know I've probably not been t-boned a few times because my dorkish looking hi-viz jersey or lights got a dim drivers' attention. I've seen the startled reaction in their faces. . .had i blended into the background, likely could have been a different result. We just don't have stats on the collisions that didn't happen. . .only the ones that did.
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I've noticed most drivers stay far, far away from cyclists on the road. Sometimes I think the pedestrians are in greater danger because they seem to love stepping off the sidewalk without checking for traffic. Last week a woman walking on the sidewalk several feet ahead of me stepped into the road to jaywalk without even looking right behind her. I yelled at her and startled her enough that she stepped back on the sidewalk. There were 2 cars about to drive past me and any of very nearly could have struck her because she was being stupid.
So, I don't worry about dying on my bike. On foot I best keep my wits about me.
So, I don't worry about dying on my bike. On foot I best keep my wits about me.
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Worried enough about it to take precautions, like lights and reflectors for riding after dark; not worried enough about it to stop commuting.
I worry more about dying or getting maimed in a car accident... Or dying of heart disease because I'm not getting exercise by riding--runs in my father's side of the family.
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These cyclists were recently killed in my area. Where is the justice? Why is that when a driver kills a cyclist and leaves the crime scene he is not arrested and convicted?
Rest in peace fellow cyclists:
Robert Emmett Bowen III
Unamed woman riding in Atlantic Ave in Brooklyn
Natasha Pettigrew Green Party Candidate
Rest in peace fellow cyclists:
Robert Emmett Bowen III
Unamed woman riding in Atlantic Ave in Brooklyn
Natasha Pettigrew Green Party Candidate
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Nope, not really. I am mostly able to use an urban MUP and low speed side streets to get to one workplace and a practically deserted MUP to get to the other. I did, however, get dive-bombed by a hawk the other day and last week nearly got jumped by a doe and a pair of fawns.
Quite frankly I get more frightened behind the wheel of the car.
Quite frankly I get more frightened behind the wheel of the car.
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Despite all this, I still feel very vulnerable while biking. Number one is people in New York drive like maniacs. Almost every single day I see a car running the red light inches from my wheel. I can even predict it on the worst intersections. Once I have the green light I don't go, I just wait for the car that shows up out of nowhere flying in front of me and all other cars.
Then you have here those extremely small bike lanes where you can feel the air conditioning inside the car next to you on your right while bumping against rear view mirrors on you left. Any door that pops open or driver that does not know the size of their car will hit me.
At many wider streets I have to deal with double or triple parked cars. Once I approach a double parked car I slow down and look behind me to see cars flying inches from me.
If I approach a heavy used intersection while the light is green I usually can't go straight. The problem is cars are all making right turns and since the bike lane is all the way to the right if I go straight the cars will hit me.
A doctor was killed in the Bronx riding the bike lane when someone opened a door to her right and she swerved and went under a truck to her left.
Those of you here who ride on congested areas such as New York City how do you cope with all of this aggravation, stress, and fear of getting killed? Who here has stopped commuting due to the fear of being killed?
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What speaks somewhat against all the extra safety precautions (high-vis clothing, blinkies during the day etc) is the stats that came out of Toronto I believe that found that in 80% or something like that of deadly accidents the drivers were at fault. This is really discouraging, because I always thought being safe out there would make a difference.
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I don't worry about dying. Then it's game over and it won't matter to me. We can't always go out like John Entwistle (my hero!)- a heart attack in a Vegas hotel room with a hooker and a big sack of cocaine! Like Drew Carey said - "Why make the money if you don't enjoy spending it?"
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Of course this "learning process" can kill you along the way...
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Dude, you can die in so many ways. If it's your time, then no matter how you want to escape it, this fella will get you.
Death is a certainty. Does Jesus know you?
Death is a certainty. Does Jesus know you?
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Yeah, he knows me. The moron damn near sideswiped me last summer with his trailer, and then cut me off so that he could park in one of the few bike lanes in town. Man oh man, did I give that pendejo a piece of my mind. Those landscaping guys, I tell you...
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That's my big fear is getting rear ended, even in broad daylight, by some idiot in a Hummer or Escalade (or even a Hyundai) not paying attention. It's worse now because I've found the best route for my commute takes me on a street with no bike lane, and I feel most comfortable taking up an entire lane, so I sometimes get angry drivers behind me honking at me. The alternative is to have them pass three inches away from me.
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That's my big fear is getting rear ended, even in broad daylight, by some idiot in a Hummer or Escalade (or even a Hyundai) not paying attention. It's worse now because I've found the best route for my commute takes me on a street with no bike lane, and I feel most comfortable taking up an entire lane, so I sometimes get angry drivers behind me honking at me. The alternative is to have them pass three inches away from me.
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In the past two weeks, I've been doored and hit by a car--both while riding legally (and responsibly) in a bike lane. I am fine, thankfully, but things could have turned out differently.
Am I scared? Yes, absolutely. But the alternative is driving or taking public transit, which is much slower than biking...that's enough to keep me on my bike.
Am I scared? Yes, absolutely. But the alternative is driving or taking public transit, which is much slower than biking...that's enough to keep me on my bike.
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Being killed? Nah, not really. I only fear suffering a lot before being killed.
Seriously though. When I think about how many distractions a driver can potentially tax themselves with while driving, the odds are against me, and that's honestly a little scary. God forbid I die at the hands of someone doing something completely ********, like texting or changing a CD.
Seriously though. When I think about how many distractions a driver can potentially tax themselves with while driving, the odds are against me, and that's honestly a little scary. God forbid I die at the hands of someone doing something completely ********, like texting or changing a CD.
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Look at the bright side. Getting killed is a sure fire way of getting rid of your pains, aches and soreness.
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I'm not overly concerned about it. I'm confident that I ride responsibly (even though I do make some dumb decisions from time to time). I'm also confident that most drivers are responsible as well. I tend not to dwell on the random thing that can happen out there. I try to be predictable and visible. Like many of the posts above, I'm more concerned about a crash where I'm seriously injured (or even slightly injured, for that matter).
On the other hand, my wife is freaky about my riding.....especially after dark. Probably because we don't have much life insurance. Thank goodness I'm worth more alive than dead!!
On the other hand, my wife is freaky about my riding.....especially after dark. Probably because we don't have much life insurance. Thank goodness I'm worth more alive than dead!!