I've been commuting since May of '09 here in Seattle.
My commute is around 15 miles round trip...

https://veloroutes.org/bikemaps/?route=47372

I've got about 5,000 miles on my Jamis Citizen 1....

https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...tizen1_bk.html

.... needless to say this old girl is starting to fall apart.

Time to upgrade. My budget is $1,500

I had my heart set on a Surley Long Haul Trucker, but my fit is a 54cm and I'm not to keen on the 26" wheel.

https://www.surlybikes.com/frames/lon...trucker_frame/

Here are some other bikes I'm considering.

Rodriguez Navigator
https://www.rodbikes.com/bigphotos/navigator_big.jpg

Masi Speciale Rondonneur
https://www.masibikes.com/steel/randonneur/

Trek 520
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/520/520/

Redline 2011 Conquest Classic
https://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes...nquest-classic

Traitor Ruben
https://www.traitorcycles.com/Bikes_Ruben.cfm

I'm relatively new at this and would appreciate some advice.
26" wheel pros/cons?
Disk Brakes?
thanks
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26" wheels are fine. Don't listen to the idiots who argue that you'll be "slower" compared to 700c wheels. Small differences in wheel diameter don't make an extremely noticable difference in performance, particularly when you consider that if 700c were "faster" - then why the hell didn't we all stick with the larger 27" wheels that road bikes used to have? My Surly has 700c wheels and it's fine. If I had it to do again I may have got the one with 26" wheels because you can fit fatter tires on it. I'd bet my life that my 30 mile commute time would be the same. I'd probably just ride one cog smaller on the cassette to compensate for the smaller diameter wheel or something....just my $0.02. Disc brakes are fine, so are cantilevers (properly adjusted--sometimes takes some skill, especially low-profiles) and v-brakes (brainless adjustment)

I've never liked the LHT discrimination against those of us with less height. I kind of understand why they do it, but I don't like it.

There are some nice things about 26" wheels, but most of the biggest advantage, I think, is quicker accelaration, which seem to be counter to the touring bike mindset. Bigger wheels roll over things with less impact to the rider, which is why mountain bikes are going the 29er direction and is another reason I don't think 26" wheels make sense on a touring bike. Even so, the big negative, in my mind, for 26" wheels on an LHT for commuting is that the choice of quality slick tires is limited. There are a few really good choices (the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme, for instance), but not as many choices as you'd have with 700c wheels. On the other hand, the 26" LHT's can take wider tires.

Disc brakes? I think they're really nice for riding in the rain, both because of stopping reliability and (more importantly) reduced rim wear. You spend a bit more on brake pads, but it's still a nearly neglible expense. I am not a fan of the cheaper mechanical disc brake sets, such as the Avid BB5, but the Avid BB7's are great and not a very expensive upgrade.

You really can't go wrong with any of the bikes in your price range if you get one that fits.

Have you looked at the Kona Sutra or Salsa Vaya? I hate to add a bikes to an already long list, but it seems like you're early in the process and I like these two.

Have you considered a Surly Cross Check? They're extremely popular commuters, although they don't have mounting points for disc brakes.

I did take a Cross Check for a spin. I felt a little to stretched out, to forward leaning, while the LHT was a bit more upright.

It will probably be cheaper to fix your current bike than to buy a new one. However there is nothing wrong with looking for a new (or used) bike.

I have the 26" LHT and like it. I don't feel fast on mine, but I like the versatility. Smaller wheels are supposedly stronger and quicker to get up to speed in comparison to 700 wheels. But 700 wheels are supposed to roll better and require less effort to maintain speed. But there are so many other factors that come into play that the whole debate takes on different contexts to different people.

My advice is not worry so much about the wheel size but worry more about how the bike feels, how it fits, and what you want out of it. Basically what doesn't your Jamis do for you? You want a faster and smoother ride? You want to carry loads of stuff with you? You want to fit a variety of tires? You want disc brakes for bad weather? etc...

Wow! That Kona Sutra sure has it all...


https://www.konaworld.com/documents/c...tra_review.pdf

I guess I want a bike that's everything my Jamis is not. Steel Frame, drop bars, a swifter ride, a road bike that can handle panniers.

I like this bike more with every commute; I don't think I'd call it "swift" though. The Randonneur is the same frame.
Speciale Commuter flip/flop

Falling apart after 5k miles? If so sounds like a poorly built bike

Nice DiabloScott! She's a real beauty....

When I started out I was 260lbs, now down to 235...

I know day in and day out I've taxed her alot.

I blew out the suspension fork about 3 months ago...

...My L.B.S. has me back on the road with a loaner fork,

so much for the Jamis Warranty...

The LHT is basically a truck (hence the name). It is heavy, feels slow, but is stable and comfortable for long rides. If you want something quicker than a cross bike might work better for you or a sports-tourer.

Just test ride as many as you can in categories such as touring, sports touring, or cross bikes.

Will do.....
I'd still like to get up on a 56cm LHT with 700s, just to see how she feels. I've got to track one down in the 'hood.

The Rodriguez Navigator for $1500 seems pretty sweet. A locally built steel frame, you can't beat that.

https://www.rodcycle.com/

I'm going into this slow and steady, ready to pull the trigger after the Seattle Bike Expo in the Spring.

The hardest part about this time of year is finding bikes in popular sizes. for reference i'm 5'9 and ride a 54cm LHT. There was a google group which listed what size people ride. I bought my bike after months of searching and test riding I started around september and bought in december.

First choice: Rodriguez (if it has good geometry, I'll get it b/c you live right near them and it's cool b/c everything is done in-house there)
Second choice: Trek 520 *warning (The trail on the '09-'11 on the xs and s size increased from 6.4cm to 7.1cm, in theory this makes the handling more sluggish)

If it really was only a "little bit" too stretched out, there are ways to fix this. You might try a size smaller to shorten the cockpit, or you might try a size larger to make it easier to get the handlebars up above the saddle. A shorter stem and/or handlebars with some backward sweep (Nitto Noodles, if you're looking for drop bars) will also help.

They're really nice bikes. Don't discount them if you didn't have time to dial in a fit.

Well here she is


with her components


Do you see any reason why I shouldn't pull the trigger on this one?

Looks like they skimped bigtime on components. I change my mind. Get the Trek 520.

Trek 520 has better shifting(Dura Ace barcons) that will outlast those lowend STI shifters.
Avid SD5 V-brakes are much much more powerful than those Tektro Dual Pivot brakes
Shimano Deore LX derailleurs are a whole lot better than those Shimano 2200 derailleurs
Shimano Deore LX hubs are better than those entry level formula hubs

Don't know whether the Trek 520 54cm or 57cm is a good fit for you, but their trail 6.4 and 5.9 respectively is better than the 7.1 that I quoted for the xs and small size so disregard my last statement about trail.

$1,369.99(Trek 520) vs. 1,599 (Rodriguez) Considering the big gap in levels on components, it's a no brainer, Trek 520 all the way.

Another possible bike would be the Jamis Aurora -- online you can get a 2009 for $700 shipped. I bought one from them about a month ago and the experience was very positive.
https://www.bicyclebananasstore.com/2...a09_aurora.htm

Another good option would be the Windsor Tourist from bikes direct. Good price ($600) and there are enough folks on BF who have had good experiences with that model.

Either of those would leave you with extra cash to make upgrades or customizations along the way.

It's over your budget, more so when you add pedals, tax, whatever . If you're serious about your budget you can get there.
I'd find out what the biggest tire size is that will fit with the fencers, you'll probably want 32mm?
Very nice looking though and the appeal of the local connection is a good one.

My thoughts exactly. Are you sure you don't just need to freshen it up a bit with some new replacement components? May save you quite a bit.

Of course, if you don't like the bike you have, go for it.

edit: Sorry, didn't see your response before I posted this.

Yes, if the Jamis you currently have only lasted 5,000 miles I certainly wouldn't buy another. $1600 for a year and a half of riding is ridiculous, IMO.

thanks 531, I was afraid of that...

Diablo, speaking of breaking the bank, moving up a grade to keep that local connection.

The Rodriguez Rainier for ouch $2600

trek portland is the heat. love mine so far.