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hard to find replacement parts
So I had my LBS check up on my bike (something I like to do once a year). They replaced chain, chainrings and other things. They also said that they had to rebuild my bottom bracket. I have no idea what that means. But they did say that if the bb would ever fail, I would have a hard time finding a replacement part of this.
I am riding a -unidentifiable, but certainly cheap- rigid mtb from 1999 or 2000. I started commuting about 18 months ago and put some 6000 miles on it since then. Didn't ride it much before then.
I just can't believe that you wouldn't find replacement parts for a 10-15 year old bike.
What do you all think?
I am riding a -unidentifiable, but certainly cheap- rigid mtb from 1999 or 2000. I started commuting about 18 months ago and put some 6000 miles on it since then. Didn't ride it much before then.
I just can't believe that you wouldn't find replacement parts for a 10-15 year old bike.
What do you all think?
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More and more things in our society are being designed as disposable. We, as a society spend a huge portion of our incomes on things which we do not expect to outlast us. Houses used to be designed to last a lifetime, but no longer. Cars seem to be used for 10-15 years and are then scrapped and replaced. Why should a bicycle be any different. If you buy a quality bicycle, you will have a better chance of being able to find parts for it as long as you stay away from some of the more modern technologies.
As far as bottom brackets go, most bikes use a standard configuration, with a couple of different standard threads. The most notable exceptions are some of the cheaper department store bikes which used proprietary parts, and older french bikes (motobecane, peugeot etc) which used a different threading which is now hard to find.
As far as bottom brackets go, most bikes use a standard configuration, with a couple of different standard threads. The most notable exceptions are some of the cheaper department store bikes which used proprietary parts, and older french bikes (motobecane, peugeot etc) which used a different threading which is now hard to find.
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They replaced the bearings and re-greased it.
I was under the impression that you could fit a modern cartridge BB in most shells with standard threading. Anyway, if you maintain the BB regularly, it'll probably last a long, long time.
If it does break, find an LBS that has a salvage yard. There are a couple around hear that have all sorts of old BB spindles and such.
The problem may be a lack of knowledge on the part of your mechanic, or something unique about your bike. I have had a couple of bikes that are over 20 years old for which I could get new BBs for. They wouldn't be exact matches of the existing ones but they would work as well or better.
I was under the impression that you could fit a modern cartridge BB in most shells with standard threading. Anyway, if you maintain the BB regularly, it'll probably last a long, long time.
If it does break, find an LBS that has a salvage yard. There are a couple around hear that have all sorts of old BB spindles and such.
The problem may be a lack of knowledge on the part of your mechanic, or something unique about your bike. I have had a couple of bikes that are over 20 years old for which I could get new BBs for. They wouldn't be exact matches of the existing ones but they would work as well or better.
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So I had my LBS check up on my bike (something I like to do once a year). They replaced chain, chainrings and other things. They also said that they had to rebuild my bottom bracket. I have no idea what that means. But they did say that if the bb would ever fail, I would have a hard time finding a replacement part of this.
I am riding a -unidentifiable, but certainly cheap- rigid mtb from 1999 or 2000. I started commuting about 18 months ago and put some 6000 miles on it since then. Didn't ride it much before then.
I just can't believe that you wouldn't find replacement parts for a 10-15 year old bike.
What do you all think?
I am riding a -unidentifiable, but certainly cheap- rigid mtb from 1999 or 2000. I started commuting about 18 months ago and put some 6000 miles on it since then. Didn't ride it much before then.
I just can't believe that you wouldn't find replacement parts for a 10-15 year old bike.
What do you all think?
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Unless your bike is a freak of nature, it has one of 2 standard bottom brackets. You might have to replace the cranks if you go with a newer one, but I'm almost positive you could still fix it. It would still be cheaper than buying a new good bike. Can you post up a picture of it?
They might not be trying to sell you on a new bike, but I don't know them.
They might not be trying to sell you on a new bike, but I don't know them.
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You can replace functionally similar units, though the external appearances are not the same
whole crankset and BB as a set, of 3 pieces,
Square taper style BB assemblies are about $20~30
now cartridge BB is a replace it when its worn , situation,
but that only takes 15 minutes to do.
many square taper cranks can be found.. still..
consider what gear ratios you actually use ,
count teeth.
Aftermarket chainrings of stainless steel are sold by QBP, under the Surly Brand, they are long wearing
if you don't use all 3 chainrings on the front, you can simplify ..
to install just 1, or 2.
then the length of BB you select varies a few mm..
whole crankset and BB as a set, of 3 pieces,
Square taper style BB assemblies are about $20~30
now cartridge BB is a replace it when its worn , situation,
but that only takes 15 minutes to do.
many square taper cranks can be found.. still..
consider what gear ratios you actually use ,
count teeth.
Aftermarket chainrings of stainless steel are sold by QBP, under the Surly Brand, they are long wearing
if you don't use all 3 chainrings on the front, you can simplify ..
to install just 1, or 2.
then the length of BB you select varies a few mm..
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A mechanic that's been around a while longer might have known that.
Another story: I had a brifter that was missing the part that the brake cable connects to. It's called a cable hook or something like that. Went to one LBS and they said that shimano doesn't sell that part individually for that particular shifter so they couldn't order it.
Went to a different LBS with more experienced mechanics. Showed the guy the part I needed. He poked around in a few parts drawers and pulled one out for me. Charged me $4.00.
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I dunno I went to four different shops trying to find a replacement spindle for my FSA bmx crankset, I eventually gave up and sold them. The only spindle i could find was a titanium one for 150bucks it came with a steel one. Every shop told me they didn't exist, can't even find steel ones on the interwebs. Some stuff is hard to find. By the way it sounds the OP is talking about square taper cup and cone BB which most shops don't carry because it's outdated, and to most shops the word outdated may as well mean non-existent.
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It might be a propriatary (sp) bottom brakcket that is just not available. Replacing a propriatary bottom bracket with a standard bb that requires a new crank would certainly be more expensive than a new unidentifiabl, but certainly cheap bike.
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Finding replacement parts varies. You described your bike as "unidentifiable and cheap" which may be the problem.
When I worked at a group home I would bring the kids bikes to a LBS if I couldn't do the work myself. The LBS would sometimes do the work for free or charge less than what they normally would. However, there were many times they couldn't do anything because the parts were non existent or cost more than what the bike would cost.
When I worked at a group home I would bring the kids bikes to a LBS if I couldn't do the work myself. The LBS would sometimes do the work for free or charge less than what they normally would. However, there were many times they couldn't do anything because the parts were non existent or cost more than what the bike would cost.
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I dunno I went to four different shops trying to find a replacement spindle for my FSA bmx crankset, I eventually gave up and sold them. The only spindle i could find was a titanium one for 150bucks it came with a steel one. Every shop told me they didn't exist, can't even find steel ones on the interwebs. Some stuff is hard to find. By the way it sounds the OP is talking about square taper cup and cone BB which most shops don't carry because it's outdated, and to most shops the word outdated may as well mean non-existent.
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Finding replacement parts varies. You described your bike as "unidentifiable and cheap" which may be the problem.
When I worked at a group home I would bring the kids bikes to a LBS if I couldn't do the work myself. The LBS would sometimes do the work for free or charge less than what they normally would. However, there were many times they couldn't do anything because the parts were non existent or cost more than what the bike would cost.
When I worked at a group home I would bring the kids bikes to a LBS if I couldn't do the work myself. The LBS would sometimes do the work for free or charge less than what they normally would. However, there were many times they couldn't do anything because the parts were non existent or cost more than what the bike would cost.
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Like this:
The difference from a more standard 3 piece crank is the way that the arms that the pedals are connected to bend at a 90 degree angle before passing through the frame.
A three piece crank has a "spindle" that passes through the frame and arms that are bolted on to the spindle. They are called "3 piece" cranks since there's a spindle and 2 arms. A "One Piece" (like the one above) combines the pedal arms and spindle into one piece.
The difference from a more standard 3 piece crank is the way that the arms that the pedals are connected to bend at a 90 degree angle before passing through the frame.
A three piece crank has a "spindle" that passes through the frame and arms that are bolted on to the spindle. They are called "3 piece" cranks since there's a spindle and 2 arms. A "One Piece" (like the one above) combines the pedal arms and spindle into one piece.
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Ok, after this explanation and consulting Sheldon Brown's glossary, I'd say I have a cartridge bottom bracket. I saw that they replaced my cranks - the thingies that connect bb and pedals.
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Cartridge bottom brackets are replaced when worn out. Not overhauled.
crankarms - attach to the bottom bracket to make up a 3 piece crankset
crankarms - attach to the bottom bracket to make up a 3 piece crankset
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If you've got a cartridge BB, then there's no issue with finding replacements. I have a 1991, a 1998 and a 1987 frame that all use a cartridge BB and I spend $25/ea for their replacements.
Even if it's some odd thing, if you're really attached to the bike you could get a Velo Orange threadless BB ($60.00) and fix it.
Even if it's some odd thing, if you're really attached to the bike you could get a Velo Orange threadless BB ($60.00) and fix it.
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Oh boy, that looks like an American bottom bracket (that would usually use a one piece crank like tjspiel posted) with a European adapter and three piece cranks. Odd setup for a cheap department store bike...
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Yikes. Is that the original BB? I think Chris is right. It looks like 3 piece crank adaptor in a shell designed for a one piece. There are adapters like these:
available at Amazon and other places for about $15 that would let you use a standard cartridge BB.
Anyway I'm certain it's possible to get a new bottom bracket installed on that bike, but it's definitely not a typical setup.
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\some more pics. Yes, that's the original bottom bracket. (not a cartridge bb, as I thought?)
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That's an American/Ashtabula BB with an Ashtabula square taper spindle - same as the YST unit linked above. Obviously, they are available.
You don't have to worry about a thing. Even if the raceways wear out, you don't have to change the spindle due to the design; just the raceways, which are virtually identical to any other Ashtabula BB.
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You don't have to worry about a thing. Even if the raceways wear out, you don't have to change the spindle due to the design; just the raceways, which are virtually identical to any other Ashtabula BB.
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Your are into a point of diminished returns. A bike with that Bottom bracket is pretty low on the tottem pole. The parts on that bike a low end. If you love the bike its one thing but on the used market that bike is $50 at best.
Winter is the time to buy used bikes when the market is down.
As an example. here is a Specialized Hard rock that has more modern parts for $120. You could probably offer $90.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2206201018.html
Another Hardrock thats a little bigger for $100
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/bik/2205313027.html
Winter is the time to buy used bikes when the market is down.
As an example. here is a Specialized Hard rock that has more modern parts for $120. You could probably offer $90.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2206201018.html
Another Hardrock thats a little bigger for $100
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/bik/2205313027.html