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Old 02-09-11 | 11:08 PM
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Converting fixie to commuter

I put this is the mech thread too but someone in here should be able to shed some light on my question:

My fixie is an early 80's Peugeot and I want to add fenders to it so I don't get all dirty on the way to work. Unfortunately I'm not sure of how to fit them properly (and I'm looking for suggestions as to which brand will mount up well and hold up. Here are a few pictures. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

Here is the front fork, the fender should bolt up to the brake bolt hole (I have an inexpensive Tektro brake that I'm putting on when I get the fenders on). There isn't much clearance so I may have to trim a fender. The tire size is 700x23.


I'm guessing the fender support can mount here on the front. In these holes perhaps?


I am a little worried here, there isn't much clearance between the frame and wheel, how close will a fender fit?


And I'm guessing they will mount here in the rear.
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Old 02-09-11 | 11:39 PM
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I like velo orange fenders but they are pricey... they have decent instructions on mounting them: https://support.velo-orange.com/#fenders.html but parts of that will apply to any fenders... I also have some planet bike fenders and they are nice... I'd recommend extending whatever fender you have with some sort of mudflap, and the PB fenders make that easy: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?...oc_id=4913&v=R
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Old 02-09-11 | 11:52 PM
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I should have taken a better picture of the back wheel clearance. There doesn't look like there is much space for a fender. I think I'll just have to take it to the LBS and check for spacing.
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Old 02-10-11 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lucky53s
I put this is the mech thread too but someone in here should be able to shed some light on my question:

My fixie is an early 80's Peugeot and I want to add fenders to it so I don't get all dirty on the way to work. Unfortunately I'm not sure of how to fit them properly (and I'm looking for suggestions as to which brand will mount up well and hold up. Here are a few pictures. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.
I had a mid 80's Peugeot road bike. The fork and dropouts looked very similar to yours. I was able to mount 32mm tires on that bike and for awhile had some 35mm tires on it too. The 35mm tires barely fit, as in the new tire hairs would rub on the chain stays. If the rear wheel wasn't perfectly centered more than just the hairs would rub. Not really practical or safe and I didn't leave them on for long.

Anyway this experience leads me to believe that you should be able to mount some 35mm full fenders on your bike. They might require a little trimming near the stays. I know Civia makes a 32mm fender that's flat and on the expensive side but they would fit better.
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Old 02-11-11 | 09:19 PM
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I will probably just get some 35 mm ones. I found some SKS (?) ones that are 35 mm and I have a dremel to trim them around the stays if necessary.
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Old 02-13-11 | 01:38 AM
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Hey man, do you see that big hole on the top of the front fork (called the crown)? Before you do anything else, you NEED TO PUT A BRAKE THERE!
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Old 02-13-11 | 08:42 AM
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Hey man, do you see that big hole on the top of the front fork (called the crown)? Before you do anything else, you NEED TO PUT A BRAKE THERE!
He said he was going to put a front brake on the bike. It would be difficult to put the fenders on if he put a brake on first.
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Old 02-13-11 | 10:02 AM
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Hey man, do you see that big hole on the top of the front fork (called the crown)? Before you do anything else, you NEED TO PUT A BRAKE THERE!
A) It's not your bike, so the OP "needs" to do nothing. While not as effective as a front brake, you can stop a fixed gear without one.

B) (to the OP) You should easily be able to fit a pair of SKS P-35 fenders in there without any trimming. Even that rear clearance looks fine. I've got a late 80's Trek 400 with a similar looking amount of frame clearance and I've got 28mm tires and P-35 fenders. It's a bit of a tight squeeze, but I've managed to keep about 3mm fender clearance from the tire. With 23s on there, you should have well over 5mm clearance all around.
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Old 02-13-11 | 03:16 PM
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A) It's not your bike, so the OP "needs" to do nothing. While not as effective as a front brake, you can stop a fixed gear without one.
Hehe, until his chain breaks or comes loose, or he is skidding and runs into me (true story).

I apologize if he was going to put a brake on it, but brakeless fixed gears with dumbass riders have crashed into me, and I was on my bike. They crashed into me because they couldn't stop at a stop sign that I had the right of way on and was riding through. So the argument that brakeless riders are only endangering themselves is BS.

Riding brakeless is stupid, and I am going to deride anyone who does it.

Fixies are awesome, as long as you run at at least a front brake.
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Old 02-13-11 | 06:35 PM
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A lot of people make a big deal about mounting fenders, but it's not that hard. The last pair I bought I tried in the shop just by sliding it over the rear wheel to check for clearance, though I was more worried about clearance of the rear rack stays.

I don't have experience with VO fenders, but I know planet bike fenders come with pretty good instructions.
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:35 AM
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Unfortunately I don't support a LBS here in Baltimore. I have been in a few and haven't got that "feel good" feeling from any. So for the year I am here I am pretty much just ordering from the internet. I don't think it would be very respectful to go in and "try on a pair" then leave and order them. And I refuse to pay $20 more for something just to support a shop that doesn't make me feel very welcome.

Daaxix-The post stated that I am going to put on a brake. No offense taken though, I have had my chain come off when riding without a brake and it's not very fun. That is the reason I have a brake sitting next to the bike and am just waiting for my fenders now.
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Old 02-14-11 | 03:03 PM
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All fender questions aside about the fender try on and internet ordering, have you tried Twenty20 cycles in Hampden? I am not saying they will give a fender try on, but they may be able to help you with other bike things while you are still here. Very chill dudes. I got lucky and this is in my hood, so this has become my new LBS. Way better than most of the other shops that are here in bmore. I totally understand what you are saying about the shops here. https://twenty20cycling.com/
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Old 02-14-11 | 08:01 PM
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Old 02-14-11 | 08:13 PM
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You have the clearance necessary for fenders for sure if you stick with the skinny tires. most fender kits will come with all the hardware you need to install them. my only concern with your bike is that from the looks of it, it has the "oversize" non threaded mount points on the fork and stays, so you might need more nuts and washers than some fender sets come with.
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:04 PM
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Fudge-I am very handy with nuts and bolts, I was a flightline mechanic on helicopters for the Marine Corps. So buying some nuts and bolts are no problem.

Fluffhead-I'll check out Twenty20 bikes before I do anything. Just to find a shop to support by buying tubes, CO2 canisters, etc would be nice. And maybe they will have a ride I can join when it warms up a little. I'll let you know what I find when I get up there, maybe Thursday morning.
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Old 02-14-11 | 11:18 PM
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there are other options for your back wheel. a seat post rack will keep mud off the back, and try plastic MTB fender on the front, they just snap on. I have one on my Trek Mountain track and it works great.
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Old 02-16-11 | 04:17 PM
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Tahoe-I actually want it to look good with them on. I'm vain that way. Perhaps I should start with a new paint job..... I want to put a back rack and pannier bags on for commuting to work so i would like one that sits down on the wheel and keeps some of the water/mud off the bags.
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Old 02-16-11 | 04:28 PM
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Fudge-I am very handy with nuts and bolts, I was a flightline mechanic on helicopters for the Marine Corps. So buying some nuts and bolts are no problem.

Fluffhead-I'll check out Twenty20 bikes before I do anything. Just to find a shop to support by buying tubes, CO2 canisters, etc would be nice. And maybe they will have a ride I can join when it warms up a little. I'll let you know what I find when I get up there, maybe Thursday morning.
6153 in the eighties and again at the beginning of the 90s. A marine flight line mech would have already ***** some off of another bike and made them fit. j/k

Bicycle Times magazine just did a big article comparing fenders in the last issue if you can find it.

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I was a CH-53 mech out in Hawaii on Deltas for 3.5 glorious years. Followed that up with Embassy duty. I try to do things the right way, not the MC way now.
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I was a CH-53 mech out in Hawaii on Deltas for 3.5 glorious years. Followed that up with Embassy duty. I try to do things the right way, not the MC way now.
HMH-463, 3 years in K-Bay 85-88 with two trips to Oki. I hear you about doing it the right way.

Good luck with the fenders. I tried to find the magazine article on line but they don't have it on the web yet.
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