Retaliate to Jerk Face Drivers
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Retaliate to Jerk Face Drivers
New commuter here, starting riding to the workplace and completing simple errands about 5 weeks ago. Everything is good so far, enjoying it much more than I anticipated actually...but one problem, drivers of cars suck!
Not to promote violence or suggest this is healthy behavior, but do you ever feel the need to respond to those that could careless of clipping you, running you over, or display their 'more privileged attitude' of using the roadway?
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike
Not to promote violence or suggest this is healthy behavior, but do you ever feel the need to respond to those that could careless of clipping you, running you over, or display their 'more privileged attitude' of using the roadway?
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike
#2
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Take some advice from a hot head who has been commuting by bike for decades...get over it.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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New commuter here, starting riding to the workplace and completing simple errands about 5 weeks ago. Everything is good so far, enjoying it much more than I anticipated actually...but one problem, drivers of cars suck!
Not to promote violence or suggest this is healthy behavior, but do you ever feel the need to respond to those that could careless of clipping you, running you over, or display their 'more privileged attitude' of using the roadway?
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike
Not to promote violence or suggest this is healthy behavior, but do you ever feel the need to respond to those that could careless of clipping you, running you over, or display their 'more privileged attitude' of using the roadway?
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike

Get used to it.
I was out on my bike at 10:00PM last night. Had two headlights, tailight, and safety-yellow jacket. I approached an intersection in the middle of my lane, for visibility to cars, and had a green light. Just as I entered the intersection, the car on the cross-street to my right gunned it, turned left into my lane ( i.e., through HIS red light ), and came within an inch of making me paste on the road.
As I'm sitting dumbfounded in the intersection, I see him turn his emergency lights on - it was a cop in an unmarked car. Didn't even slow down after he nearly whacked me.
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#5
On a Mission from God
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Thibodaux, LA
Bikes: '10 Surly LHT, Rat-rod Klunker, '82 Peugeot PH12 Centennial
Have to let it go. If you can't handle riding with traffic, you need to put away the bike now. It won't get better. Good news, it won't get any worse, either. Just be smart, be visible, and pay attention.
#7
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Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Louisville Kentucky
Bikes: Bacchetta Agio, 80s Raleigh Record single-speed, Surly Big Dummy
I've found that if I don't get upset about it, I'll be fine in five minutes. If I let myself get worked up, it'll ruin my mood for the day. Sometimes I fail and get upset anyway, but I keep trying to ignore the idiots.
Yesterday on my commute home a woman pulled in front of me (into the bike lane) and stopped. I hit the brakes, there were cars coming in the other lane, so I was forced to stop. She was slowly backing into a parking spot. When traffic cleared, I carefully went around her. THEN she saw me. I was tempted to yell at her, but I'm glad I didn't. She wasn't being rude, she just didn't see me.
If I had yelled, I would have ruined my mood for the day. I also would have given her a bad impression of cyclists.
Yesterday on my commute home a woman pulled in front of me (into the bike lane) and stopped. I hit the brakes, there were cars coming in the other lane, so I was forced to stop. She was slowly backing into a parking spot. When traffic cleared, I carefully went around her. THEN she saw me. I was tempted to yell at her, but I'm glad I didn't. She wasn't being rude, she just didn't see me.
If I had yelled, I would have ruined my mood for the day. I also would have given her a bad impression of cyclists.
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From: San Jose, CA
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It is frustrating, but what I find helps is just to smile and wave at the idiot motorists - pretend that they just told you how fabulous you look on your bike. You never get a satisfying reaction from shaking a fist, giving the finger, or shouting obscenities, but I often love the look of bewilderment that comes over some jackass when I smile at him and wave . I usually just think of how much happier I am riding my bike than the motorist is stuck in his car, thinking that saving 2 seconds will make a difference in his life.
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From: Binghamton, NY
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Not to promote violence or suggest this is healthy behavior, but do you ever feel the need to respond to those that could careless of clipping you, running you over, or display their 'more privileged attitude' of using the roadway?
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike
It seems like I need a sling shot or ninja stars to throw at these freaking cars. I feel bad enough when profanity controls my mouth...now I am getting road rage on my bike

Like chipcom states "get over it". Don't let motorists deprive you of having a good day. Continue to ride predictably and visibly and enjoy the day.
Though if someone intentionally puts your life in danger, then do what you feel is necessary.
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Having fun while you're commuting is the best revenge.
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From: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
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Get used to it and ignore the jerks. Maybe try to find an alternative route. Don't never retaliate, because you will loose. Remember that you are on a bicycle and that jerk is inside a 3000 pound steel box, if there is a violent confrontation between you and a car the car will win and you will loose. Just make sure you ride with confidence, be visible, ride with traffic.
#14
I agree with everyone else. Pissing someone off that is driving a 2+ ton piece of metal is inherently a BAD IDEA.
I also like to remember that, like it or not, I'm something of an ambassador for other cyclists. Something nasty that I do, could result in some driver taking it out on some teenager, college student, or someone new to riding that are riding to school or work one day.
I also like to remember that, like it or not, I'm something of an ambassador for other cyclists. Something nasty that I do, could result in some driver taking it out on some teenager, college student, or someone new to riding that are riding to school or work one day.
#16
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From: Baltimore, MD
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Sidewalk's actually worse.
Chucking a sonic grenade into the dude's window if he rolls it down to say stupid crap usually causes a large amount of chaos. It's best if they hang around for a few seconds, so you can give a long stare of contempt to make them feel nervous/guilty first.
Remember: expression is in the eyes, not the mouth; mouth expression is a goofy mistake of western society (you can test this by glaring at small children with emphatic eye movements and watching how much faster and more appropriately they react; very young children will often giggle at funny angry faces, but narrowing your eyes makes them EXTREMELY uncomfortable).
Chucking a sonic grenade into the dude's window if he rolls it down to say stupid crap usually causes a large amount of chaos. It's best if they hang around for a few seconds, so you can give a long stare of contempt to make them feel nervous/guilty first.
Remember: expression is in the eyes, not the mouth; mouth expression is a goofy mistake of western society (you can test this by glaring at small children with emphatic eye movements and watching how much faster and more appropriately they react; very young children will often giggle at funny angry faces, but narrowing your eyes makes them EXTREMELY uncomfortable).
#17
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I think I better
I think I better let it go
Alright
I think I better let it go
-Maysa
I think I better let it go
Alright
I think I better let it go
-Maysa
#18
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From: Michigan
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I don't let it bother me anymore. If you confront them, you just drive them harder into a contrary position, and raise everyone's blood pressure. I don't personally believe that any driver has ever been convinced that they were wrong by a confrontation unless they already believed it anyway, and if that's the case, no confrontation is necessary.
I have lately come to the point where I don't even let it bother me anymore. I just work around the stupid and get on with my day. I no more get upset with drivers for being stupid and ignorant than I do with rocks for falling to the ground when thrown. I can't make rocks fly, and I'll never be able to make drivers not stupid, so there's really no point in trying either unless I have a lot of time to waste.
I have lately come to the point where I don't even let it bother me anymore. I just work around the stupid and get on with my day. I no more get upset with drivers for being stupid and ignorant than I do with rocks for falling to the ground when thrown. I can't make rocks fly, and I'll never be able to make drivers not stupid, so there's really no point in trying either unless I have a lot of time to waste.
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Come on over to my world. 50 MPH speed limit, 65 MPH drivers, 2 lanes, no shoulder, no sidewalks, rural area, contractor trucks at 6AM sucking coffee and on their phones. You don't want to ride in those conditions, then you don't ride at all. Honestly, I don't really have much trouble.
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From: Downtown Phoenix
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Just last month I punched a dent in the hood of a new Town Car because the guy was honking at me to get out of his way at a red light.
I have no problem retaliating to drivers. I'm not a small guy and I'm not your typical cyclist in that I'm not afraid to bash someone's face into their skull.
I have no problem retaliating to drivers. I'm not a small guy and I'm not your typical cyclist in that I'm not afraid to bash someone's face into their skull.
#22
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From: Lincoln, NE
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Today I was driving in the car and 2 cyclist decided to ride side by side taking up the whole street in a business area around downtown. They had no clue for blocks I was right behind them. The way they were riding you would think they were on a pleasure ride down the MUP or something. When they finally realized a car was behind them they moved into the center lane and slowed down to let me pass which I didn't want to do because I was about to make a left hand turn into the store. Ok I vented now I'll move on. Keep in mind sometimes you will be the idiot on the bike because it happens to everyone. Don't be too timid, but as other said its best to just get over it. Thats not easy if you have a seriously close call though. Keep riding have fun and stay safe. Oh and also welcome to commuting!
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I am disgustingly nerdy/nice/overly friendly to motorists, with waves and smiles and "thank you's" anytime I'm acknowledged. Maybe it's my imagination, but I believe that with each "wave and thanks" - I am imprinting in that person's mind that cyclists are not only out there, but that our primary goal is not to be in the way or otherwise annoy motorists.
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Nigel
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From: San Jose, CA
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Today, I got rather pissed at all the drivers moving into the bike lane for a right turn where the line was solid, before it turns dashed and it is legal for cars to be in the bike lane/right turn lane - I moved to the straight ahead lane - light was green, but turned red just before I got, there. I moved back over into the center of the bike/turn lane and stopped waiting for the light to turn green - about a 2½ minute cycle. A dozen plus cars waited silently behind me.
A minute or so later two very attractive women pulled up on bikes, and we rode the next four miles or so together
A minute or so later two very attractive women pulled up on bikes, and we rode the next four miles or so together
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Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
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From: Looney Tunes, IL
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When I re-entered bicycle commuting it seemed I encountered more "Jerk Face Drivers" than I do now. As I gained experience and continued to refine MY behavior it seemed the drivers improved and I had less issues with them. Many beginners are not assertive enough and some drivers will take advantage of this.





