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Old 05-15-11 | 10:34 PM
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I got all my Road Morph G through Amazon with the free shipping. Here in Ca, the extra time it took to deliver with the free shipping was only several days longer. Price is about $27.

https://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Road-Mo...f=pd_rhf_p_t_1
I'm eventually going to get one of these. I've been using CO2 with very good results, but it would be nice to have a back-up/means of topping off without waiting to get home.
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Old 05-15-11 | 10:50 PM
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I have used both, but I prefer CO2. It gets really hot here real quick. I have found using a pump is a bit more time consuming and that is no fun on a hot, humid day with no wind. I carry 1 cartridge unbroken in the pump and 2 extras in my saddle bag. So far, so good in the past 3 years.
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Old 05-16-11 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
No, really, cartridges do have a place in a commuter's trick bag--the inflation stage of roadside flat repair will be one of the shoertest steps, along the lines of "open quick release", instead of the most time consuming part of the whole deal. Less sweaty, too.

That said, as mentioned above, I do carry mini-pump backup.

My wife gets the frame pump.
No, I understand the benefit of having cartridges over a pump or simply having both. I actually used cartridges once and ran out of air one time and had to walk it home because I didn't have any more cartridges. Have I had a pump... I would have ridden home. Granted, it does take a little longer but I have no complaints on how long it takes to "pump" a tube with a pump as opposed to "airing" a tube with cartridges.. Also, I have never gotten sweaty from pumping a tire either. I understand the benefits over one or the other but I prefer the frame pump. Whatever works for you is all that really matters.
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Old 05-16-11 | 06:51 AM
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I just picked up the ToPeak TurboMorph G to replace my cheapo bell walmart special. https://www.topeak.com/products/Pumps/TurboMorphG It saved my arse the other day too. I like it. The foot pedal is just kinda ehh. But the pump works great. It goes to 160psi, I have it mounted on the seat tube. I've never used Co2 so I can't give any advice there.
 
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Old 05-16-11 | 07:13 AM
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I got a puncture on my commute to work last week, it was a pretty slow leak but because of a strong head-wind i was running a little late, and if i'd taken the time to change the tube i was in danger of being late for work. I spend 30 seconds pumping the tire up and it got me another 1/4 mile before i had to stop and inflate again. I stopped and inflated the tire another 6 times before getting to work but i wasn't late, and for the record it was a Beto mini-pump.
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Old 05-16-11 | 08:31 AM
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i use a CO2 inflator with two cartridges because it can inflate a tire to around 120psi in mere seconds. i don't carry a back-up pump because if i have more than 2 flats on a commute (it's never happened, knock on wood), i can simply hop on the el or hail a cab and throw my bike in the trunk to get to work on time. i live in a city with a very comprenhensive public transit system; the idea that i would ever have to walk home with my bike because i was out of air is absurd.
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Old 05-16-11 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CbadRider
The Topeak RoadMorph G is a nice pump. The "G" option has an inflation gauge, which is nice to have.
I like the smaller size of the Mini Morph. It doesn't need a gauge at all. When I have to press down really hard, it's at about 90 psi, good enough for the rest of the ride.

The big advantage of the Morph pumps is their hose. The end of the pump rests on the ground, so I can press down hard, and yet there's no stress on the inner tube's valve stem. Riders have ripped the stem loose from the tube with normal pumps.

The last time I used it, I sort of counted along, and it took a lot more than 100 pump strokes to fill the tire. So it does take a few minutes at least. I only need it once or twice a year, so that's ok.


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Old 05-16-11 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
i use a CO2 inflator with two cartridges because it can inflate a tire to around 120psi in mere seconds. i don't carry a back-up pump because if i have more than 2 flats on a commute (it's never happened, knock on wood), i can simply hop on the el or hail a cab and throw my bike in the trunk to get to work on time. i live in a city with a very comprenhensive public transit system; the idea that i would ever have to walk home with my bike because i was out of air is absurd.
I live in the same city and it is not absurd. If you are at 3200N on the Lake Front Trail and have to go to 4400N/4600N, why would I walk to the street, wait for a bus/cab (A Cab can take just as long to hail sometimes) and waste more time? I can walk a mile in 15 minutes and at a little over 20 I would be home. The CTA isn't always reliable and on time. Now, if I am on the street, you are most certainly correct, and I would never consider walking because it would be counter productive.... even though I have had a few days where a walk is enjoyable but not necessary/forced. The El and cabs are also options in those situations where you have to be somewhere quick, you're a 4-5 miles away from your destination and you are even on the Lake Front Trail.

You are not left without an option if you get a flat and have no way to pump it but the comment about it being absurd to walk home in Chicago with your bike is most certainly not absurd when considering your situation.

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Old 05-16-11 | 09:58 AM
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I live in the same city and it is not absurd.
i meant absurd in the sense that i would never be forced to walk with my bike if i didn't want to. yeah, if i got a 3rd flat on my commute and i was only 6 blocks from home, i'd just walk 10 minutes and be home instead of waiting for a train/bus or hailing a cab. but many of the other commuters in this thread say that it's necessary for them to carry a pump as a back-up in case they burn through their CO2 cartridges and are forced to walk the rest of the way to their destination. in chicago, the notion that i would ever be forced to walk with my bike to a destination because i ran out out of CO2 is absurd. there are ALWAYS other transport options that can fill the gaps in a pinch in a city like chicago.

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Old 05-16-11 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
i meant absurd in the sense that i would never be forced to walk with my bike if i didn't want to. yeah, if i got a 3rd flat 6 blocks from home, i'd just walk 10 minutes and be home instead of waiting for a bud or hailing a cab. but many of the other commuters in tis thread say that it's necessary for them to carry a pump as a back-up in case they burn through their CO2 cartridges and are forced to walk the rest of the way to work or home. in chicago, the notion that i would ever be forced to walk with my bike to a destination because i ran out out CO2 is absurd. there are ALWAYS other transport options in a city like chicago.
I agree 100% and couldn't imagine living some where that I didn't have those options.

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Old 05-16-11 | 11:12 AM
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"there are ALWAYS other transport options in a city like chicago."

Must be nice.
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Old 05-16-11 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jezmellors
"there are ALWAYS other transport options in a city like chicago."

Must be nice.
Yep, it sure is.
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Old 05-16-11 | 11:24 AM
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Either way you decide to go, just make sure the first time you try to use it isn't on some dark street. I have a CO2 inflator that's in the seat bag of my wife's bike. I'm having second thoughts about that since I'm not sure she'd remember how to use it if she needed to.
+1. Practice at home. Even using four $3 cartridges is cheap compared to sitting on the side of the road staring at an empty cartridge and an empty tire. If you go with the pump, try it in the store before you buy it. All small pumps, including Road Morphs, require more effort than a floor pump. It's easy to snap a valve stem off using a pump without a hose.
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Old 05-16-11 | 11:27 AM
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I just bought a RoadMorphG and did a dry run in the comfort of my garage. Using only the tools in my seatbag kit, I dismounted the front tire, took the tube out, re-inserted it, and inflated using the minipump (my trusty Zefal Husky beckoned four feet away ). I even managed to remount my front tire without using the irons.

I found the Morph pump pretty good, and it inflated my mountain slicks to 70 PSI in a few minutes. It wasn't as nice as using a floor pump, but I like being able to pre-inflate the to get its shape correct before inserting it in the tire, etc. I'm willing to make the slight weight trade off.

Best of all, I am now confident I _can_ change a flat in the real world using what I carry. If anything I could probably get away with just carrying one tire iron, but they're small and plastic so I carry two. My kit includes a multi-tool, one tube, one patch kit, the morph, a chunk of old tire to use as a boot if necessary, and two $20 bills folded and taped to the top of the bag (when all else fails).
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Old 05-16-11 | 11:35 AM
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I carried CO2 carts until I got a flat on the coldest day of winter and got stuck (i.e. the dispenser froze and it wouldn't dispense - between that and my frozen hands, I couldn't get enough pressure to the tire and ended up walking).
CO2 won't give as much pressure, so you'd need to carry a few of carts.

I'd go with a regular size pump, if possible, or a mini-pump if you want to conceal it.
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