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Corsaire 11-09-04 06:16 PM

Safety Vest really rocks !
 
I got this safety vest (neon green with orange reflective stripes) from Harbor Freight and just tonight I tested it on a real busy road on rush hour coming home, some part of the roads were dark and hilly:
cars and trucks literally open themselves up away from me, gave me room enough to feel secure that I'm seen, I checked all cars coming from behind using my little glasses' mirror, I could tell they SAW me!
Of course, The vest in combination with two strobes on the back of my helmet, handlebar blinking lights, and a seat rear light, plus the usual front light.

Corsaire :)

Mr. DNA 11-09-04 06:25 PM

with that much illumination i'm surprised planes weren't trying to land on you

Becca 11-09-04 06:56 PM

The one thing I don't like about Harbor Freight is that when you order online, they charge both shipping AND handling. Nobody else on the net does that (that I'm aware of), so I refuse to buy from them online. We do have their store in town, so I certainly enjoy visiting and buying from them there!

acohen5212 11-12-04 10:29 AM

I agree, though, that those ugly safety vests are great things. When I'm wearing one, I figure that no motorist can claim they didn't see me!

Dahon.Steve 11-12-04 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by acohen5212
I agree, though, that those ugly safety vests are great things. When I'm wearing one, I figure that no motorist can claim they didn't see me!

Those vests are great during the winter, but make you sweat in the summer. Anyone use a police vest?? NOT!

Corsaire 11-12-04 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by acohen5212
I agree, though, that those ugly safety vests are great things. When I'm wearing one, I figure that no motorist can claim they didn't see me!

Thing is, in darkness, no one really cares who you really are and whether you're looking cool or not; it all comes down to instincts between those cars rushhing to get home and you trying to make it safely home, it's either they SEE you or NOT.

Corsaire

nick burns 11-12-04 10:51 AM

Hey Corsaire & Dahon.Steve, nice to see a couple other Jersey guys here. What part of the state are you guys in? I'm just outside Atlantic City. Rarely ever see any other commuters - occasionally one guy on a mountain bike wearing a safety vest. It's a very lonely existence being a commuter around here!

Corsaire 11-12-04 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by nick burns
Hey Corsaire & Dahon.Steve, nice to see a couple other Jersey guys here. What part of the state are you guys in? I'm just outside Atlantic City. Rarely ever see any other commuters - occasionally one guy on a mountain bike wearing a safety vest. It's a very lonely existence being a commuter around here!

Hey now!

I'm from northern Jersey, tri-state area, commuting is not bad at all by where I live, now the weather is not "good", all the few commuters I saw are gone. But I keep on riding whenever there's no precipitations or bad road conditions, cold doesn't stop me from heading out on a bike.

Corsaire

supcom 11-12-04 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Corsaire
Thing is, in darkness, no one really cares who you really are and whether you're looking cool or not; it all comes down to instincts between those cars rushhing to get home and you trying to make it safely home, it's either they SEE you or NOT.

Corsaire

You look better in a safety vest than a hospital gown.

Dahon.Steve 11-12-04 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Corsaire
Hey now!

I'm from northern Jersey, tri-state area, commuting is not bad at all by where I live, now the weather is not "good", all the few commuters I saw are gone. But I keep on riding whenever there's no precipitations or bad road conditions, cold doesn't stop me from heading out on a bike.

Corsaire

I'm in the Northern area also. The only year round bike commuters are Mexicans. There's a factory cross town and no bus service heads in that direction so they ride Huffys or Pacific toy store bikes. They also ride all year round on those junkers!

acohen5212 11-12-04 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
Those vests are great during the winter, but make you sweat in the summer. Anyone use a police vest?? NOT!

I have a vest that's barely there - it's a wide-open-weave of bright orange mesh, basically just enough to be visible and support the reflective strips sewn onto it. It's no problem even in hot weather.

Corsaire 11-12-04 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
I'm in the Northern area also. The only year round bike commuters are Mexicans. There's a factory cross town and no bus service heads in that direction so they ride Huffys or Pacific toy store bikes. They also ride all year round on those junkers!

Hey! joins us for a ride Sunday 14th 9 am at Brookdale Park in Montclair, me and another guy will go for a quick 2 hr ride through Clifton, West Paterson, Montclair. Verona, Caldwell, Little Falls and back to Montclair, about 30 miles, easy pace.

Corsaire :)

dancingout wall 02-09-09 12:10 AM

hehe glad to see you use safety vest . i am lily from china , YA , I guess maybe the safety vest you wear mabe by me . because I 'm the manufacturer of safety vest and export millions of safety vest in USA ,:)

dancingout wall 02-09-09 12:15 AM

I have a mini bike , blue colour , very like it ,now i will be by bike every day .

Ride Among Us 02-09-09 12:15 AM

i will never wear one of those. somebody might see me and laugh their ass off.

truman 02-09-09 08:16 AM

I've noticed a good response from motorists when I'm wearing my HF vest. I'll keep it on when it's dark and gloomy.

jcm 02-09-09 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by supcom (Post 726902)
You look better in a safety vest than a hospital gown.

Yeah, all open in back 'an stuff... :roflmao2:

Seriously, I can't understand the mentality behind not wearing as much practical visibilty as you can. Vanity is fleeting...

Aeneas 02-09-09 09:22 AM

I have noticed that I get a bit more respect on the road with my high-vis safety vest on... I may look like an uber-nerd, but, I'm a living uber-nerd, and that's what matters to me!

ItsJustMe 02-09-09 10:05 AM

Anybody that thinks that an adult on a bike doesn't look like a dork anyway is fooling themselves. The safety vest increases the dorkage meter from 60 to 65. Get over it. The safety vest works.

Actually I kind of believe that since most cyclists are NOT wearing them, for those of us that are, the drivers think "maybe that guy's a cop." I get people being RIDICULOUSLY polite around me when I'm wearing mine (which is always when I'm wearing a jacket or it's dark out; in the daytime when it's warm I get by with an alertshirt).

FredOak 02-09-09 11:24 AM

I have a couple of them, one is a little heavier for spring and fall and then a lighter mesh one for summer.
Sorry with the number one excuse a cager will use, "I didn't see them", I do all I can to take that away.
And IJM is right, I gave up on scoring the dork factor the minute I took that first pedal stroke.

ItsJustMe 02-09-09 11:51 AM

Just FWIW, it doesn't matter what you're wearing, they will still say "I didn't see you." People have built-in filters that are tuned to look for what they're used to seeing. You could be towing an 8 foot wide billboard painted fluorescent colors with 100 flashing lights on it and some idiots will still not see you. There's not much you can do about them, they really shouldn't be on the road.

But the vest does help with the vast majority. I've had people tell me that they could see me nearly a mile away, both in the daytime with no lights on and at night with a pair of superflashes. I haven't had any comments from coworkers since I got the Dinotte, but for the first time I got someone on the road roll down their window an yell "awesome light!"

Aeneas 02-09-09 12:03 PM

There was a gentleman who's story I read on another forum that was hit from behind by an inattentive motorist while still wearing his vest, and rather well lit with blinkies etc, a couple years ago. He was hospitalized for about a week and off his bike for several months. That he survived was good, but just doing all you can is sometimes not enough... but I'd rather do all I can to see and be seen than leave stuff up to chance.

RogerB 02-09-09 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Aeneas (Post 8331577)
There was a gentleman who's story I read on another forum that was hit from behind by an inattentive motorist while still wearing his vest, and rather well lit with blinkies etc, a couple years ago. He was hospitalized for about a week and off his bike for several months. That he survived was good, but just doing all you can is sometimes not enough... but I'd rather do all I can to see and be seen than leave stuff up to chance.

You can reduce risk, but never really eliminate it.

I cannot explain the sensory lapses that happen to all people. We have blind spots on our retina where the optic nerve joins with the eyeball. We let our attention drift. We "lose" one red light in a forest of red lights. We scan the whole area and "miss" a stop sign. We get blinded by the glare of oncoming headlights, or of the setting sun. Our field of view is interrupted by the A-pillar, or blocked by the rearview mirror, or a bug on the windshield. And so on.

jcm 02-09-09 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by RogerB (Post 8331687)
You can reduce risk, but never really eliminate it.

I cannot explain the sensory lapses that happen to all people. We have blind spots on our retina where the optic nerve joins with the eyeball. We let our attention drift. We "lose" one red light in a forest of red lights. We scan the whole area and "miss" a stop sign. We get blinded by the glare of oncoming headlights, or of the setting sun. Our field of view is interrupted by the A-pillar, or blocked by the rearview mirror, or a bug on the windshield. And so on.

So true.
I was a volunteer firefighter for several years around here, and we were constantly attending classes in order to retain state certification. Much of the safety training involved knowing that people can become fixated visually, but at the same time mentally detached. It's not that unusual for a motorist to run into the back of an emegency vehicle with all lights flashing. Many firefighters, cops and construction workers have been run down that way. Hence, the rules regarding reflective vests and bright battle lanterns.

illwafer 02-09-09 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Aeneas (Post 8331577)
There was a gentleman who's story I read on another forum that was hit from behind by an inattentive motorist while still wearing his vest, and rather well lit with blinkies etc, a couple years ago. He was hospitalized for about a week and off his bike for several months. That he survived was good, but just doing all you can is sometimes not enough... but I'd rather do all I can to see and be seen than leave stuff up to chance.

A guy near me was just run down and killed in this exact situation. He was lit up like an xmas tree, and in the bike lane on a very wide 4-lane road. He was 57 years old and retired from the Navy. His bike commute was about 15 miles one way, so he was no amateur.

I am happy lighting my bike up to no end, but I will never wear a green vest.

Big_e 02-09-09 05:27 PM

I wear my nice high-viz vest and still use my older orange police-type vest once in awhile. I may look funny but I stopped caring about that along time ago. Nobody really laughs though...not yet anyway.
Ernest

Jerrys88 02-09-09 07:51 PM

Corsaire - does your vest light up? If not, check out this LED reflective vest at Ledtronics:

http://www.ledtronics.com/products/P...px?WP=C352K648

I have one and love it - it's really cool! Personally I don't get on a bike without my vest and I don't give a @^$#$% what I look like. In the warmer months I use a mesh reflective vest (cheap one from Home Depot) - don't need lights for evening commute like in dead of winter and really appreciate the lightweight mesh.

wheel 02-10-09 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by jerrys88 (Post 8334149)
i don't get on a bike without my vest and i don't give a @^$#$% what i look like. .

+1

ItsJustMe 02-10-09 09:25 AM

I've posted it here before, but it bears repeating:
My brother is a fireman and paramedic. Last year, they had a fire truck severely damaged when a guy rear-ended it at full highway speed. The truck was parked in the road, all brakes locked, all lights running. There were several other emergency vehicles parked, all lights running, and a bunch of guys walking around a car fire with full gear on.

The guy came plowing in and slammed into the back of the fire truck hard enough to drive it forward 10 feet. They got what was left of the driver out of the pickup with a combination of jaws and a spatula, probably.

People can get completely oblivious when driving. This is why I not only light up and bright up, I use a mirror heavily. If you're approaching me from behind, I've been keeping an eye on you for at least a few seconds before you'll get close enough for me to have to make a "bail-out" decision. Usually if someone is pushing too close to me, I'll move a bit left, that wakes them up.

cradduck 02-11-09 01:59 AM

I would like to know if they sell safety orange patches or fabric I can sew to my commuter bag. Having a safety vest might seem like a moot point if it's being covered up by a bag or backpack.


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