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Old 11-12-04 | 08:42 PM
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combo rain/winter wind outer layer?

I need both rain gear and wind breaker wear for the low temps in the winter. Is there something I can buy that would cover both? I just got a Patagonia supercell jacket, but it's black! Maybe I can use that anyway, with a reflective vest over it, but what can I use for pants that will go over my leggings, cut the wind chill and can be used in the summer when it rains?


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Old 11-12-04 | 09:16 PM
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I like these, I'm going to try them. Gortex and wind proof $100.
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Old 11-13-04 | 03:20 AM
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yes, goretex will definitely do the trick for outer layers. when it's not raining and it's not super-cold, tights are funner though..i find i always go slower in pants.

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I find goretex too clammy. Ive had better results with pertex pants.
My current wind/waterproof is by Paramo. In cool conditions it works better than any goretex, but it is too warm for summer.
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Old 11-13-04 | 07:27 AM
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Not sure of the fabric, but I've been thoroughly happy with my Gill Traverse jacket & Freedom pants. Alone, the Traverse jacket is not much in the way of winter wear, but with proper layering, it is awesome. Rode into work this morning with a merino wool base layer, cotton T-shirt, fleece arm warmers, and the jacket. It was 32 degrees, and I was perfect.

I've ridden in torrential downpours the last couple of months too, and the jacket and pants have performed great. They can get hot when its warm enough (70+ degrees), but I'd opt for something thinner and lighter still if it were that warm. Zip pits help.
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I got a pair of the men's version of these recently and have used them a few times already, including when it wasn't too cold. Highly recommend them.

https://www.rei.com/product/47581491....HP_CYCLING_TOC

Originally Posted by dmiller91
I need both rain gear and wind breaker wear for the low temps in the winter. Is there something I can buy that would cover both? I just got a Patagonia supercell jacket, but it's black! Maybe I can use that anyway, with a reflective vest over it, but what can I use for pants that will go over my leggings, cut the wind chill and can be used in the summer when it rains?


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Old 11-13-04 | 08:28 AM
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I'm one of those "old schoolers"(a nice way of saying incredibly cheap!) I use layers of wool and an army poncho. I'd have to sign a contract with the devil to afford some of this gore tex gear!
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I find goretex too clammy. Ive had better results with pertex pants.
My current wind/waterproof is by Paramo. In cool conditions it works better than any goretex, but it is too warm for summer.

Where does one find Paramo?
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Old 11-13-04 | 09:33 AM
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I got a pair of the men's version of these recently and have used them a few times already, including when it wasn't too cold. Highly recommend them.

https://www.rei.com/product/47581491....HP_CYCLING_TOC

Those are cheaper than goretex. I wonder how they do against a wicked wind? I"m in Madison, WI. I wear tights 90% of the time, but I don't want to stop riding just because its 17 degrees! I'd probably do find with just a nylon outer layer, but I go far enough that I want something made for cycling, with the tapered legs, roomy knees, not too hot, cuts the wind. Don't want too much?
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Old 11-13-04 | 09:34 AM
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I find goretex too clammy. Ive had better results with pertex pants.
My current wind/waterproof is by Paramo. In cool conditions it works better than any goretex, but it is too warm for summer.

I used to have an Eddie Bauer Goretex jacket about 15 years ago. I gave it away because I felt like I was suffocating in it. I thought maybe there were improvements I never tried to bike in the thing though.

I do know that the out layer I tried the other day (my summer jacket) had the wind whistling through me when I rode this week.
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Old 11-13-04 | 01:43 PM
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Has anyone tried these? They claim to be wind and waterproof.
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Old 11-15-04 | 03:37 AM
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Paramo details at
https://www.paramo.co.uk/US/acatalog/...oofing-16.html

The 2 jackets best suited to cycling are the Valez smock and the Cuzco jacket, but the latter has no underam vents so it is 3 season (spring/fall/winter). I use a Cuzco as a casual jacket for riding around town, commuting and for longer rides.
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Old 11-15-04 | 06:40 AM
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This is the one I use:
https://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon...IID=5354-FJ306

Has a hood that's helmet compatible, soft lightweight fabric. Rainproof, for the most part, completely wind proof, and when it gets warm, underarm zips for ventilation.

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Old 11-15-04 | 06:43 AM
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As far as outer shells are concerned, for goretex, this is pretty bright plus the construction's top notch: https://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon...IID=5354-GJ404
I've been wearing one for almost a decade and it still looks brand new.

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Old 11-15-04 | 09:31 AM
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As far as outer shells are concerned, for goretex, this is pretty bright plus the construction's top notch
Ouch, four hundred and fifty clams. Only thing I could think of was Willis and Wayans from the Last Boyscout

Joe Hallenbeck: Leather pants.
Jimmy Dix: Yeah.
Joe Hallenbeck: What's something like that run?
Jimmy Dix: Six-fifty.
Joe Hallenbeck: Six hundred and fifty dollars?
Jimmy Dix: Yeah.
Joe Hallenbeck: They're pants.
Jimmy Dix: Yeah.
Joe Hallenbeck: You wear them?
Jimmy Dix: YES.
Joe Hallenbeck: They don't, like, have a TV in them or something?
Jimmy Dix: Nope.
Joe Hallenbeck: I am very old.


Not to say it isn't probably top-notch gear and you've apparently gotten your moneys worth out of it. Guess this is a case of "you get what you pay for"

Wonder if the wife would notice the charge..........maybe I could fob it off as an Xmas type expense?
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Old 11-15-04 | 12:21 PM
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I find lightweight Goretex very comfy. It's only clammy when I wear it with the weather too warm. I was lucky enough to find a nice lightweight hooded goretex jacket for $60 on clearance. I believe the brand is Pacific Trail. Check sportsmansguide.com or bargainoutfitters.com. I think I just saw them there the other day, but I don't remember the price. They only had black, but I just wear my reflective vest with it. One of those websites also had brand new German mil surplus Goretex pants for $20 if you don't mind olive drabe. They are very nice. Check down a bit for a thread by me called More Goretex Pants for more detail on fit, etc.
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