VA gets a touch smarter..
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VA gets a touch smarter..
New law went into effect July 1.
"Motorcycles, mopeds and bicycles may treat a red light as a stop sign if their bike fails to trigger the traffic light and they have waited two full cycles of the light or two minutes, whichever is shorter"
https://www.dmv.state.va.us/exec/notice.asp?id=113
"Motorcycles, mopeds and bicycles may treat a red light as a stop sign if their bike fails to trigger the traffic light and they have waited two full cycles of the light or two minutes, whichever is shorter"
https://www.dmv.state.va.us/exec/notice.asp?id=113
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I wonder what all the goodie-two-shoes do at traffic lights that don't trigger without a law like this in place? Do they get off their bikes and become a pedestrian? Or do they just sit there and wait until a car comes to trigger the light, however long that might be? We know they would never dare break the law and go through a red light because they say they wouldn't.
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I thought you meant the VA; I was astonished that they may have gotten even a tad bit smarter. Congrats to riders in Virginia though on getting a law passed that actually makes sense!
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I wonder what all the goodie-two-shoes do at traffic lights that don't trigger without a law like this in place? Do they get off their bikes and become a pedestrian? Or do they just sit there and wait until a car comes to trigger the light, however long that might be? We know they would never dare break the law and go through a red light because they say they wouldn't. 

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Oklahoma recently passed a similar law, though at the last minute they removed the language pertaining to bicycles from the bill.
It is usually of no consequence for me, as my steel bike usually triggers lights if I line it up at the right place on the signal coils. Even my aluminum hybrid does fairly well at triggering lights since I changed the fork to a rigid chromoly one.
It is usually of no consequence for me, as my steel bike usually triggers lights if I line it up at the right place on the signal coils. Even my aluminum hybrid does fairly well at triggering lights since I changed the fork to a rigid chromoly one.
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I've got one of these on my commute, and I usually roll into the intersection and wait for the yellow light in the straight-only lanes. When the opposing traffic stops for the light, I zip across before the cross traffic starts moving.
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That'll work until you run into the cop who was there and was able to see that you hadn't waited the two minutes. But it does bring up again the question that if one knows from experience that a sensor doesn't "see" them, why they'd have to wait for two cycles? A reasonable (whatever that may be) time I can see waiting but not two full cycles.
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That'll work until you run into the cop who was there and was able to see that you hadn't waited the two minutes. But it does bring up again the question that if one knows from experience that a sensor doesn't "see" them, why they'd have to wait for two cycles? A reasonable (whatever that may be) time I can see waiting but not two full cycles.
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2 minutes? Yeah I'm not waiting that long. If it's safe, it's safe. They should simply allow cyclists to treat red lights as stop signs if there is no incoming traffic, and if they break the law and get smashed then the driver has no liability or something along those lines.
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What is the law in reguards to this in California?
I am especially interested in Santa Clara County, San Jose County and Los Angeles County.
I am especially interested in Santa Clara County, San Jose County and Los Angeles County.
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