Heat Stroke Death in Kansas
07-22-11, 10:41 AM
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If I'm expecting hot weather the next day,I find drinking plenty of water the night before helps to stay out of trouble the next day.I wear one of those funny cycling hats and keep it wet.If it's real hot(high 90's +) I'll tie a bandana loosely around my neck and keep it wet also.Both help keep you nice and cool.If it's unbearable,the whole head gets wet.
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This is what happens when you ride around in direct sun pushing yourself beyond the breaking point. Your metabolism is based on fire; your cells burn glucose or fat, by adding oxygen, to release enough heat to activate ATP to release even more heat to activate biological chemical reactions. Ramp it up without proper cooling and you'll start boiling yourself to death. You sweat to cool down and you rehydrate because you need the water in you to sweat; if you exceed your body's ability to sweat fast enough (you're not going to gush a liter of water in 10 seconds) or exceed the effectiveness of evaporation cooling, you will get hot.
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07-22-11, 11:34 AM
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If you drink enough water, the fire goes out for a while. However, it is still smoldering and will reignite as soon as the water evaporates. Everyone knows that's how metabolism works.
07-22-11, 11:41 AM
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I don't think you understand. Sure, it's warm enough to swim where you live, and sure, you have beautiful people sunbathing, but think for a minute what would cause it to be 58 F while I was riding my bike yesterday: an overwhelming lack of sun. We've had a concrete layer of clouds choking out the sky, and for a month at a time, we don't even see any blue in the heavens. The way I see it, the rest of the country is living it up while we're subsisting on bread and water. If it got warm enough to be 90 F at night, I'd spend my afternoons swimming in the lake, instead of thinking "maybe I should put long sleeves on, or think about getting a full spectrum light." 
07-22-11, 12:02 PM
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I don't think you understand. Sure, it's warm enough to swim where you live, and sure, you have beautiful people sunbathing, but think for a minute what would cause it to be 58 F while I was riding my bike yesterday: an overwhelming lack of sun. We've had a concrete layer of clouds choking out the sky, and for a month at a time, we don't even see any blue in the heavens. The way I see it, the rest of the country is living it up while we're subsisting on bread and water. If it got warm enough to be 90 F at night, I'd spend my afternoons swimming in the lake, instead of thinking "maybe I should put long sleeves on, or think about getting a full spectrum light."
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I'm with Seattle Forrest- We've had some ridiculously high temps this last week. It was up to 65F (18.33C) yesterday! Thank goodness it's back to our rainy 55F today. We could have had some serious heat related injuries if that had lasted any longer.
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Are you aware of how much you contradict yourself on the internet? You say you "break 30MPH", but still have problems making an 8.5mi commute in under an hour? You say you stay well hydrated and make a big fuss about your camelbak, but you obviously incorrectly hydrated. When you discount the very real dangers in the heat, you are doing a disservice to all that read your drivel. I am convinced that you write these long posts simply to hear yourself talk.
Just an FYI, the way you talk and attempt to interject opinion as fact in near every thread on this forum is extremely grating.
Just an FYI, the way you talk and attempt to interject opinion as fact in near every thread on this forum is extremely grating.
Anyway, I sweat a lot. When it's hot, I swear I have a faucet on my head. In the higher temps I use my water bottle to spray my face and neck which defnintely helps, but if I'm going a decent distance and there is no shade I really have no choice but to dial down the intensity a bit. Heat stroke can be pretty bad. My father in law passed out for a short time and was pretty incoherent for the rest of the day due to heat stroke last year.
Definitely be careful in the heat and listen to your body.
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Sorry, dude, but your metabolism isn't based on fire. It's based on heat, oxidation and chemical reactions but you don't need fire for oxidation to occur. And the chemical reactions that your body uses to utilize the energy in your food has very narrow temperature ranges - within a degree or two of 37C (98F). 40 C is enough outside those ranges to put the hurt on the whole system.
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I wish somebody would figure out a way to make a Camelbak alert you when there's only a half-liter left. On the Trek it's not much of an issue since I usually don't touch my second bottle until the Camelbak is dry, (first bottle gets used for the occasional splash in the face) but if I'm out on the Huffy or walking, that may be all the water I have, and I can go through a lot when the mouthpiece is right there handy all the time.
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Anyway, I sweat a lot. When it's hot, I swear I have a faucet on my head. In the higher temps I use my water bottle to spray my face and neck which defnintely helps, but if I'm going a decent distance and there is no shade I really have no choice but to dial down the intensity a bit. Heat stroke can be pretty bad. My father in law passed out for a short time and was pretty incoherent for the rest of the day due to heat stroke last year.
Definitely be careful in the heat and listen to your body.
Anyway, I sweat a lot. When it's hot, I swear I have a faucet on my head. In the higher temps I use my water bottle to spray my face and neck which defnintely helps, but if I'm going a decent distance and there is no shade I really have no choice but to dial down the intensity a bit. Heat stroke can be pretty bad. My father in law passed out for a short time and was pretty incoherent for the rest of the day due to heat stroke last year.
Definitely be careful in the heat and listen to your body.
When I was younger, I actually fainted (passed out?) twice due to heat. Once was during football two a days in high school. The other was during an outdoor wedding in Orlando, that just would not end, while in the Navy (I was best man). I'm much more careful now, as I figure I used up at least a couple 'lives' back then.
Gotta be smart about the heat. That was not always my policy.
07-22-11, 03:15 PM
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Are you aware of how much you contradict yourself on the internet? You say you "break 30MPH", but still have problems making an 8.5mi commute in under an hour? You say you stay well hydrated and make a big fuss about your camelbak, but you obviously incorrectly hydrated. When you discount the very real dangers in the heat, you are doing a disservice to all that read your drivel. I am convinced that you write these long posts simply to hear yourself talk.
Just an FYI, the way you talk and attempt to interject opinion as fact in near every thread on this forum is extremely grating.
Just an FYI, the way you talk and attempt to interject opinion as fact in near every thread on this forum is extremely grating.
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103 F this afternoon when I left for home. Drank water a few hours before leaving and probably half a standard water bottle on the ride. The shady areas were nice relief but the sunny pavement was not fun. Downhill generated wind didn't do a thing. My commute is only 6 miles and the heat seems tolerable, but rather than serving as my warmup for my routine rowing session it saps my motivation for everything.
I have been asking folks since I moved to North Carolina from south Mississippi 25 years ago when it got hot around here. Well, I finally found out.
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07-22-11, 09:01 PM
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One of the guys at work starts sweating from the top of his head before anywhere else. I start sweating from my lower back; my head is probably the last spot to start getting moist.
I know that it probably wasn't a Navy wedding, but what the heck is it with Navy ceremonies taking so friggin' long? 
If I had to guess how many pages comprised the speech at one of the last ones I attended (change of command at NNMC Bethesda), I'd say around 15 to 20, maybe even more. Not long after that, I had a Marine gunny tell me, "Ya know, I've always felt that the length of a speech should be the same as its importance. The Gettysburg Address was a pretty short speech, wasn't it? I don't think any of us have anything more important to talk about than what President Lincoln said that day." 
The other was during an outdoor wedding in Orlando, that just would not end, while in the Navy (I was best man).
If I had to guess how many pages comprised the speech at one of the last ones I attended (change of command at NNMC Bethesda), I'd say around 15 to 20, maybe even more. Not long after that, I had a Marine gunny tell me, "Ya know, I've always felt that the length of a speech should be the same as its importance. The Gettysburg Address was a pretty short speech, wasn't it? I don't think any of us have anything more important to talk about than what President Lincoln said that day."
