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Old 10-03-11, 08:27 PM
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Go Big or Go Home! (Surly Moonlander)

Wow this thing is a monster! It sure looks fun.

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This bike is completely impractical -- heavy, dorky, too many specialized (and therefore hard-to-find) parts, etc.

Yet... WANT!
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This bike is completely impractical -- heavy, dorky, too many specialized (and therefore hard-to-find) parts, etc.

Yet... WANT!
Surly Mr. Whirly crank and BB, rims/tubes/tires. That seems to be the only "off" stuff on the bike. The hubs could both run 135mm rear discs. Everything else is pretty much standard, and the rest will all be in the QBP catalog so just about any shop could have it within a week.
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Apparently only WA folk are cool enough to comment on the awesomeness of this Monster Truck.

I want to see it run over a pile of lesser bikes. MUAHAHAHA
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I'm waiting for Schwalbe or Nokian to come out with a studded 4" tire before I bite.
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I'm waiting for Schwalbe or Nokian to come out with a studded 4" tire before I bite.
Heaviest. Tire. Ever.

OTOH, if this persistent warming trend ever reaches some systemic breaking point where the global climate is somehow reverted to an ice age state, then you'd be well equipped for a true snowpacolypse. Like Mad Max, but with bicycles and parkas.
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I'd like to try it. Has anyone ever tried anything similar? It looks like it could ride over anything but I don't know about it's speed. Would the tire size just be overkill on anything but all terrain?
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I'd rock one, would make a good swamp vehicle.
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I guess I don't get it...maybe you have to try one to understand. THey look heavy, clumsy, and slow to me. I'm not hatin, just don't undertand the reason for this -- or even for the Pugsley.

What are these things like to ride? What's the purpose?
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They call these "Fat Bikes" and are made for soft or loose surfaces like snow, sand, or gravel. A lot of people end up riding them all year round. The tires provide suspension because they run very low pressures, down to 5psi.

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so if someone wanted to ride on the beach at a fairly fast pace, this would be the bike?
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The tires provide suspension because they run very low pressures, down to 5psi.
holy rolling resistance batman!

i'm sure these bikes have their place, but 5psi sounds like a form of torture.
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I would love to play around on one. I saw my first Pugsley live and up close a few weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
holy rolling resistance batman!

i'm sure these bikes have their place, but 5psi sounds like a form of torture.
On a skinny tire, yes. On one of these, not really.
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Originally Posted by FunkyStickman
On a skinny tire, yes. On one of these, not really.
i'm just thinking of the absurdly large contact patch 5 psi would make. even with the inherent less rolling resistance of a wider tire, a contact area measured in dozens of square inches has got to slow you down (not to mention the absolutely piggy weight of the tires themselves).

as i said before, i'm sure this bikes has its place for specific riding surfaces, it just seems like it would be a real drag on any kind of pavement (where i do 99% of my riding).

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Originally Posted by GriddleCakes
OTOH, if this persistent warming trend ever reaches some systemic breaking point where the global climate is somehow reverted to an ice age state, then you'd be well equipped for a true snowpacolypse. Like Mad Max, but with bicycles and parkas.
That's a good point. I better buy one an stash it away in my secret survivalist bunker just in case.
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This would be a blast to use twice a year, but with the saltwater around sand and the salt and wet of snow, I imagine it would rust like crazy. I really have no base for that assertion though.
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I've ridden a Surly Pugsley & a Ti Fatback. They ride wonderfully. Lower rolling resistance than I would imagine & roll over roots & rocks with ease. The owner of the Ti Fatback had just ridden a hilly road century on it. No, 5psi is not torture on those tires. Faster than a beach cruiser, slower than a time trial bike! Except in its element, where it might be the fastest. As far as rust on the Surly from salt, the powder coat is very good and if you treat the inside of the tubes with framesaver, then even better. However, the Ti Fatback (with the exception of the steel fork) would eliminate that issue.
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If rust is a concern, you could always go with a Salsa Mukluk, which is aluminum. Most people, I suspect, wouldn't use this bike for commuting in the snow, but rather on trails, where there is no salt.
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If rust is a concern, you could always go with a Salsa Mukluk, which is aluminum. Most people, I suspect, wouldn't use this bike for commuting in the snow, but rather on trails, where there is no salt.
I've ridden on trails that weren't as wide as those tires. Of course, with those tires you don't need a trail.
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I've ridden on trails that weren't as wide as those tires. Of course, with those tires you don't need a trail.
Where we're going, we don't need trails!
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One of the things I like about Surly is..they really think outside the box. I think this bike would make a great
"Bug Out" vehicle during zombie apocalypse.
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I rode these at InterBike, and the funniest part about them is the noise they make on pavement. It sounds like a truck barrelling down on you.
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Where we're going, we don't need trails!
There's no way you're getting that thing up to 88 mph.
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With an IGH this would complete my fantasy of living on the coast and going down to the beach to surf fish with a bike!.. now I'll just need a fat tire trailer..
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